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Posted: 11/18/2013 4:34:42 PM EDT
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I have a guy that want to sell me his DPMS LR-308 for my Daniel Defense DDMV7 plus $400.
Here is the picture of it. Not sure what model it is as it has the dust cover and forward assist. Good deal? Walk away? Are they decent rifles? 
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I'd say keep the Daniel Defense. Ar-10s are more of a novelty firearm than an actual "Shooter" to me, well until they fix all the kinks out of them..... Kinks? what kind? That looks like an Oracle. I have one. But I modified it highly. Kept the bolt and barrel. Added an adjustable gas block JP low mass carrier. Slashes heavy buffer and spring., and a Apex FF hand guard. It purrs like a kitten. Just use P mags. I'd grab that before a ANY ar15 I own, and I own some very good ones. If I had to grab something and head out the door. It shot fine when bone stock. I just always play with things. It has a Giessele SD3G trigger, and a TA11 on it. If I can see you, bet I can hit you. It also won't be with.a little 63gr pill either. I like mine. I also own 2 MEGA10's. If I could only own 1 AR. It would be a .308 
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Kinks? what kind? That looks like an Oracle. I have one. But I modified it highly. Kept the bolt and barrel. Added an adjustable gas block JP low mass carrier. Slashes heavy buffer and spring., and a Apex FF hand guard. It purrs like a kitten. Just use P mags. I'd grab that before a ANY ar15 I own, and I own some very good ones. If I had to grab something and head out the door. It shot fine when bone stock. I just always play with things. It has a Giessele SD3G trigger, and a TA11 on it. If I can see you, bet I can hit you. It also won't be with.a little 63gr pill either. I like mine. I also own 2 MEGA10's. If I could only own 1 AR. It would be a .308 Quoted:
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I'd say keep the Daniel Defense. Ar-10s are more of a novelty firearm than an actual "Shooter" to me, well until they fix all the kinks out of them..... Kinks? what kind? That looks like an Oracle. I have one. But I modified it highly. Kept the bolt and barrel. Added an adjustable gas block JP low mass carrier. Slashes heavy buffer and spring., and a Apex FF hand guard. It purrs like a kitten. Just use P mags. I'd grab that before a ANY ar15 I own, and I own some very good ones. If I had to grab something and head out the door. It shot fine when bone stock. I just always play with things. It has a Giessele SD3G trigger, and a TA11 on it. If I can see you, bet I can hit you. It also won't be with.a little 63gr pill either. I like mine. I also own 2 MEGA10's. If I could only own 1 AR. It would be a .308 
I have the Bushy in midlength, it did great, too...then went under the knife, and I didn't even keep the bolt  I went with the SSA and a Trijicon 1.25-4
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I retract my previous statement. History used to be that LR-308s were problem children. 
Anyways, some Ar-10 platforms are great machines, others are just problematic. If you have the money to dump into fixing those problems, if there are any, then go ahead.... |
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DPMS/Bushmaster turns out some decent guns, and they are fairly consistent. I have 2 that I run in 3 gun and haven't had any problems [but I have only run pmags, the factory mags have never been inserted].
That said, that sounds more like a +$600 deal to me than a +$400. DPMS 308's are not uncommon, and do not command a premium. When you factor the increased ammo costs, I would want more $$ up front... |
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the dpms rifle you posted a pic of is a 900 dollar gun new at walmart... same exact config minus the optic, grip and forward grip. i personally dont like magpul forward grips, so i wouldn't count that as any extra... the optic either.
a daniel defense rifle can be had right now(if you know where to get one) for 1250 bucks. i would say that if you REALLY wanted that dpms bad, its a moderate trade at best. that being said, i have had one of those dpms rifles you pictured, and it was freaking excellent. i put an adjustable gas block on it and free float rail. super accurate for a 16" rifle. i loved it. i bought mine in full panic though and dumped it because i paid too much for it. i would buy another one again though without a question. would i trade a DD rifle for it? eh, id like to get some more cash out of the deal. |
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the dpms rifle you posted a pic of is a 900 dollar gun new at walmart... same exact config minus the optic, grip and forward grip. i personally dont like magpul forward grips, so i wouldn't count that as any extra... the optic either. a daniel defense rifle can be had right now(if you know where to get one) for 1250 bucks. i would say that if you REALLY wanted that dpms bad, its a moderate trade at best. that being said, i have had one of those dpms rifles you pictured, and it was freaking excellent. i put an adjustable gas block on it and free float rail. super accurate for a 16" rifle. i loved it. i bought mine in full panic though and dumped it because i paid too much for it. i would buy another one again though without a question. would i trade a DD rifle for it? eh, id like to get some more cash out of the deal. Almost identical experience with an AP4 LR.308 .. damn things are tack drivers and solidly built. With $400 on top of the DD .223 .. it is an even trade. |
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Built my "target" .308 on a DPMS, only thing I've had to replace was an extractor after a few thousand rounds.
It'll ring 6" plates at 500yd 8/10 times consistently, but that's with me on it...
Depending on furniture and optics on your DD, if I had other AR's and wanted a .308, I'd probably make that trade with the $400 extra thrown in. 
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Built my "target" .308 on a DPMS, only thing I've had to replace was an extractor after a few thousand rounds. It'll ring 6" plates at 500yd 8/10 times consistently, but that's with me on it...
Depending on furniture and optics on your DD, if I had other AR's and wanted a .308, I'd probably make that trade with the $400 extra thrown in. http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/devtucker/308/DSCN0600.jpg http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/devtucker/308/DSCN0615.jpg http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/devtucker/308/0822091559-1.jpg Nice set-up. Beautiful place to shoot. I don't know why DPMS cant build their .223's like their .308's |
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All the guys talking crap about the DPMS LR-308 series have obviously never had any range time with one.
The LR-308 Oracle is about $900+ if you can find one in stock without being gouged and is a very nice rifle for the money. 308's are not flooding the market the way the .223/5.56 stuff is now after the panic. If anyone wants to spend 2 times as much for something that shoots the same size groups but has a different logo on the side, feel free to do so. FYI, you'll want to replace the trigger with something good and put some quality glass on there! It is a long range shooter if you want it to be. 168 Grain Federal Gold Medal Match is universally accurate in all the LR-308's I have tried. The DD is a fine rifle, but if you want a long range system, this is a great way to get into one and have a few bucks for ammo and upgrades like a new trigger. |
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