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11/15/2013 7:57:07 AM EDT
Okay fellow forumers I'm sure this topic has been talked about numerous times before, but what would be the order of factory produced AR's? I personally have a Daniel Defense and love it. I've had Smith and Wessons,  DPMS,  and Colt rifles before and DD is IMO the best thus far. I'm wanting to stick to factory DI rifles. No piston or custom shop guns. Fairly new still to this forum but I'm trying to get involved. So any input you have would be helpful. Thanks.
11/15/2013 8:02:17 AM EDT
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what are looking for 2.5k-3.5k or around 1k?

11/15/2013 8:03:19 AM EDT
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Under 2.5
11/15/2013 8:04:16 AM EDT
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Every person will have a different order.  Just stick with brands that are reputable, have track record for quality equipment, and adhere to standards and you should be ok.
11/15/2013 8:07:53 AM EDT
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you wont go wrong with a Noveske, LMT, if your willing to wait you can get a larue in that price range. nothing wrong with DD either, cant say that ive heard anything bad about their rifles. its all going to be subjective

11/15/2013 8:17:52 AM EDT
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This is pretty good advice.

I'll add another to the list... Rainier Arms RUC series.
11/15/2013 8:25:39 AM EDT
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Buy the best you can afford when you can afford it. The rest doesn't matter.
11/15/2013 9:30:40 AM EDT
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Just as with cars, it almost impossible to have a clear list. There are always "boutique" makers out there too, which often take it up notch even further. IMHO, there gets to a point of "diminishing returns" where gobs of extra $ get you almost indistinguishable "improvement/upgrade". If often just comes down to the psychology of "well it cost more, so it must be better". Kind of like buying a ROUNDER wheel.
11/15/2013 9:35:43 AM EDT
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LaRue
everybody else
11/15/2013 9:40:56 AM EDT
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It is all going to be chocolate, vanilla, or strawberry. Although I own BCM, DD, Colt, Noveske, my favorite is---- LMT. Whatever turns your fancy, they are all highest quality rifles...............I also have a Spike's carbine with a melonite DD HFB on it that I am especially partial to. I have it right now over at ''Birdsong's Black-T'' getting it done in brown Teflon for a ''Brown Recluse''----it is my bedside gun.
11/15/2013 9:56:52 AM EDT
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There are SO many good options for under 2,500 that you'll mostly find personally preferences in those who post responses here.  If I had that kind of coin to spend, I'd go for a KAC SR15.  Not necessarily the "right" answer, just an answer.

Edit:  people that answer with something like "this and nothing else" have likely owned "this" and not much else, and aren't open to the fact that there are many quality builders out there making top notch rifles.  LaRue, KAC, Noveske, LMT, Colt, BCM, DD and many others are all excellent choices.
11/15/2013 10:01:17 AM EDT
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In before fist fights and colt 6920 posts.
11/15/2013 10:36:22 AM EDT
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Noveske, BCM, Larue(if your young), DD. That's my list anyway
11/15/2013 10:56:23 AM EDT
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Like I said I currently have a DDM4V5 and I love it. I'm kind of leaning towards just building one. That way I pick and choose what I do and don't have. Even thinking about the SBR platform.
11/15/2013 11:08:32 AM EDT
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Okay fellow forumers I'm sure this topic has been talked about numerous times before, but what would be the order of factory produced AR's? I personally have a Daniel Defense and love it. I've had Smith and Wessons,  DPMS,  and Colt rifles before and DD is IMO the best thus far. I'm wanting to stick to factory DI rifles. No piston or custom shop guns. Fairly new still to this forum but I'm trying to get involved. So any input you have would be helpful. Thanks.
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Let me see if I've got this straight:





  1. You are on your 4th AR-15?

  2. You have previously (or still have?) had AR-15 from 3 competing manufacturers?

  3. This is your 3rd post since joining this site as a member this month?



And despite having a fairly broad range of ownership compared to most folks on here, your 3rd post is on the "Which one's best" topic that has been covered in  ~ 3,000 other threads over the years?



Is that a fair summary?



 
11/15/2013 11:30:37 AM EDT
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Is there an underlying problem I'm not seeing with this?
11/15/2013 11:35:48 AM EDT
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The question is asked very often if you go through a few pages of AR Discussion you will find several identical topics or very similar topics to the one you started.
11/15/2013 11:41:45 AM EDT
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I guess next time I'll just browse through previous threads instead of starting a new one that appears to be pointless jabbering on my behalf. Even though I have had a fairly broad exposure to different AR manufacturers I am fairly new to the platform.
11/15/2013 12:25:41 PM EDT
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My opinion is that when you are dropping that kind of cash it usually comes down to a  purpose driven debate.

Figure out what role this rifle will fill then look at makers that cater to that purpose.  Even if you build it yourself, same thing, the parts will depend on the role.
11/15/2013 12:48:50 PM EDT
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I asked a very similar question about 2 weeks ago. The manufacturer that had the largest number of votes was DD.



Again, the old equation:





  • What you want

  • What you need

  • What you can afford


This equation works with women, whiskey, race horses and weapons.







Hobo



11/15/2013 1:06:54 PM EDT
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Thanks Hobo.  Good analogy.  I love my Daniel Defense and it's never going anywhere just looking for some input. Mainly I'm just a weekend warrior who appreciates a well built machine that is both dependable and gets the job done.
11/15/2013 1:11:34 PM EDT
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Thanks Hobo.  Good analogy.  I love my Daniel Defense and it's never going anywhere just looking for some input. Mainly I'm just a weekend warrior who appreciates a well built machine that is both dependable and gets the job done. My first AR was the DPMS Sportical about 6 months ago. I got it for trade of a SKS and Taurus 9mm. Had my fun with it and have moved on to bigger and better things. Like I said just looking for some insight. I knew to begin with it would be quite a bias thread and I'm ok with that.
11/15/2013 1:12:07 PM EDT
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Thanks Hobo.  Good analogy.  I love my Daniel Defense and it's never going anywhere just looking for some input. Mainly I'm just a weekend warrior who appreciates a well built machine that is both dependable and gets the job done. My first AR was the DPMS Sportical about 6 months ago. I got it for trade of a SKS and Taurus 9mm. Had my fun with it and have moved on to bigger and better things. Like I said just looking for some insight. I knew to begin with it would be quite a bias thread and I'm ok with that.
11/15/2013 1:15:54 PM EDT
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So true!
Add LWRC if you're into piston guns.
11/15/2013 1:31:05 PM EDT
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So true!
Add LWRC if you're into piston guns.



I'm 41 and I have a few. Sorry you kids took so long to catch on.
11/15/2013 2:59:20 PM EDT
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1) Knight's Armament, Daniel Defense, LMT, BCM, Noveske, Colt, LaRue, Ranier Arms, Wilson Combat

2) All the rest
11/15/2013 3:17:35 PM EDT
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KAC
everybody else

If You don't think it is true, You never shot one.
11/15/2013 3:30:24 PM EDT
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Youve got a great budget.



That said take a long, hard look at Knights Armament CO.(SR15)




Absolutely NO ONE is producing a better AR than them at the moment.



11/15/2013 4:05:35 PM EDT
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I asked a very similar question about 2 weeks ago. The manufacturer that had the largest number of votes was DD.

Again, the old equation:

  • What you want
  • What you need
  • What you can afford
This equation works with women, whiskey, race horses and weapons.




Hobo


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Great post.........

Couldn't have put it any better.
11/16/2013 6:26:54 AM EDT
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1- select fire M-16
2- Everyone else
11/16/2013 9:31:44 AM EDT
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Pick the one you think looks the best. I own several of these brands (Kac, BCM, Spikes, Palmetto, DD)  They are all great in different ways.  I think that my Kac is the nicest but if your not left handed it loses a lot of it's advantages (the lower).  Hell I sold mine and bought another rifle with the money I got from it. Also Its bolt is fantastic but I can buy two complete bolt carrier groups for the price of a replacement KAC bolt.  Buy something you can run hard and don't mind scratching up.

Keep in mind that the price you pay for your rifle will double when you add accessories, (optics, mags, grips, stocks, rails, rail covers, vertical grips, lights, brake/flashider, ammo, ect ect.....)

Keep in mind that a lot of people are going to throw brands at you to justify their purchase and most of those people have fired less than three different brands.  Otherwise the wouldn't be saying "my brand, then all the others"
11/16/2013 9:44:45 AM EDT
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My thoughts, FWIW: IMO, it's hard to really put these rifles into any order that isn't subjective. I can argue that KAC makes a better BCG than BCM but Noveske makes a better barrel than KAC. That's the way I see it, you may not. Number 1 on the "pecking order"; the rifle I build with all the best parts put together. Yes, the Franken-15 is the best. YMMV.

The only thing that bugs me about building my Franken-15, is every manufacturer keeps laser-engraving their fucking logo's in big white letters all over their shit.

Flame away my friends!!!

11/16/2013 9:47:50 AM EDT
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The only thing that bugs me about building my Franken-15, is every manufacturer keeps laser-engraving their fucking logo's in big white letters all over their shit.

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You know how to Cerakote, now quitcherbitchin

11/16/2013 9:52:20 AM EDT
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The only thing that bugs me about building my Franken-15, is every manufacturer keeps laser-engraving their fucking logo's in big white letters all over their shit.

Flame away my friends!!!



You know how to Cerakote, now quitcherbitchin



True. But it's hard work! Makes my vag hurt!
11/16/2013 1:40:55 PM EDT
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My thoughts, FWIW: IMO, it's hard to really put these rifles into any order that isn't subjective. I can argue that KAC makes a better BCG than BCM but Noveske makes a better barrel than KAC. That's the way I see it, you may not. Number 1 on the "pecking order"; the rifle I build with all the best parts put together. Yes, the Franken-15 is the best. YMMV.

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I agree. You could build one hell of a rifle for less than buying a high end complete rifle, and put the best components in it. Pick the upper/lower reciever you think looks the best and go from there. I'm building a noveske rifle with a few better parts than I can get if a buy a complete rifle and I'm doing it for considerably less.
11/16/2013 3:43:23 PM EDT
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In no particular order, just alphabetical:



Bravo Company Manufacturing (BCM)
Colt
Daniel Defense (DD)
Knight's Armament Company (KAC)
LaRue Tactical (LT)
Lewis Machine & Tool Comapany (LMT)
Noveske Rifleworks
Spike's Tactical



Rainier Arms looks like they're up and coming. Hearing good things about them. I think if you stick to these brands, you'll be fine.
11/18/2013 3:49:32 PM EDT
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HK, SCAR,COLT.....EVERYBODY ELSE
11/18/2013 5:41:27 PM EDT
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D.I. only
11/18/2013 6:08:40 PM EDT
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I prefer to "Roll my Own" so to speak. That way I get exactly what I want.
Not what someone else thinks I need.
11/18/2013 7:33:06 PM EDT
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Nobody ain't got no time fo dat.

Literally, unless they've resolved their "extended" wait times.
11/18/2013 7:39:22 PM EDT
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What a cool original topic for a thread

11/18/2013 8:04:14 PM EDT
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BCM mid-lenght with A5 buffer
11/18/2013 8:26:22 PM EDT
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starts with the barrel

can't go wrong with these;
lwrc
kac
dd
noveske
bcm
11/18/2013 8:37:37 PM EDT
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LMT (because monolithic with QC barrel system and multiple calibers)
KAC
Noveske/VLTOR
DD/BCM/Colt.  Probably go with DD since they're doing their own integral suppressed rifle, however BCMs are probably just as good.  Colt is being fielded obviously, but I still think a Noveske rifle is better than a 6920.

Now, given today's ability to send stuff to ADCO or other companies willing to make your gun exactly as you want, I think a better rifle can be attained because it has exactly what you or I want in it.
11/19/2013 5:40:22 AM EDT
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everybody else

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I've owned 3 and have fired an SR-25. I disagree.
11/19/2013 6:28:25 AM EDT
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LOL!

Don't forget Spikes and LMT.
11/19/2013 8:54:40 AM EDT
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KAC, Noveske, Larue, BCM and DD. Can't go wrong with any of them.
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