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11/4/2013 7:32:21 AM EDT
I'm going to turn one of my semi auto rifles into a... uh... "Charging Handle Action" rifle.  Planning on getting an adjustable gas block to facilitate this, so it's no longer an "assault (shiver) rifle".  (Damn I hate that term.)  So, it has to be a block that can shut off the gas system, and not just minimize the flow.



Been looking at the wilson combat low profile one for under a handguard.  I like the way it adjusts, and has a locking set screw instead of having to use loctite.  Any opinions on others with a rail mount, in case I want to use them on other rifles?



And, has anyone actually done this before?
11/4/2013 9:18:46 AM EDT
[#1]
Are you wanting to keep it convertible to semi auto in case you leave the state?

Plenty of people have built "bolt action" ARs without any gas system at all. You can find barrels with no gas port, and then just ditch the gas tube and block.
11/4/2013 9:43:23 AM EDT
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I'm going to turn one of my semi auto rifles into a... uh... "Charging Handle Action" rifle.  Planning on getting an adjustable gas block to facilitate this, so it's no longer an "assault (shiver) rifle".  (Damn I hate that term.)  So, it has to be a block that can shut off the gas system, and not just minimize the flow.

Been looking at the wilson combat low profile one for under a handguard.  I like the way it adjusts, and has a locking set screw instead of having to use loctite.  Any opinions on others with a rail mount, in case I want to use them on other rifles?

And, has anyone actually done this before?
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Check these out, SLR Rifleworks Detent Adjustable Gas Block, around the same price but use a detent to hold the set screw in place. Haven't used these yet but I'm ordering a couple to try out.
11/4/2013 10:34:35 AM EDT
[#3]
Would an adjustable gas block even work for compliance? It seems it would be way too easy to "convert" back to semi auto (couple of turns with an allen wrench and done)

It can't be that easy, can it?
11/6/2013 6:58:59 PM EDT
[#4]
Well, that's why I don't want to use one with a knob to adjust it.  I want one that requires a tool, and maybe I can fill in the set screw with something that looks "permanent" but could be reversed if I move out of NY.  Being semi-auto is the one thing that when removed, makes all the other "features" a moot point.



It's almost easier to move to PA, though.  My brain just boils and burns thinking about stupid shit like this.



Fuck state's rights, obey the constitution.



I better stop here before this becomes a rant.



Thanks for the suggestions, still pondering a boat ride.
11/6/2013 7:39:54 PM EDT
[#5]
Check out MicroMOA. Their blocks are available with a 3 position switch for normal, suppressed, or closed (single shot). I have the two position for suppressed/unsuppressed and love it. They are very easy to switch positions, too, and can fit under most hand guards if you need that.
11/7/2013 6:09:47 AM EDT
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Check out MicroMOA. Their blocks are available with a 3 position switch for normal, suppressed, or closed (single shot). I have the two position for suppressed/unsuppressed and love it. They are very easy to switch positions, too, and can fit under most hand guards if you need that.
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Bear with me on this explanation.

I have the above gas block with a 3 position regulator.  Now on mine, I have one hole that is perfect for functioning (it is used on a SBR 300 Blackout upper) semi-auto.  The other 2 positions only have a dimple, and the holes have not been drilled through.  To use my upper has a "bolt action", non semi-auto, I simply push the regulator plate over until one of the non-hole positions is lined up and zero gas is allowed to go to the gas tube.  I chose the 3 position plate, so I would have the 3rd or "extra" position for future use.  I use it on a side charger upper.  I use the zero gas position when suppressed and I want the maximum quiet with no gas in the action or action noise.

Here's my idea:  Purchase the MicroMOA gas block and have the maker send a blank, non-drilled regulator plate, 2 or 3 position (it will have dimples for where the gas hole are supposed to be drilled).  He sells blank plates so people, if they want, can custom make the gas holes for their own specific setup/purpose.  Install it, and no matter what position the regular is in, NO gas will flow/it is impossible for gas to flow.  No matter what position the regulator is in, your rifle will not function semi-auto.  To get your rifle to function semi-auto when you move to another state:  1) The handguard would need to be removed.  2) The regulator plate would need to be removed.  3) The regulator plate would need to be drilled to allow gas to flow through or you purchase an already drilled plate from MicroMOA.  In fact, if it were me, I'd get 2 regulator plates with the gas block, 1 blank and 1 drilled (they will sell you that combo).  

Edited to add:  You could remove the gas tube and there are short, no hole, "gas" tubes that are pinned into the gas block to prevent gas flow, but the MicroMOA gas block would be easier, but more expensive.

I am not affiliated with MicroMOA, just a satisfied customer.  If you have any questions, I will try and answer them.  I'd recommend you contact MicroMOA.  He certainly worked with me regarding the regulator plate I wanted.  It turned out that on MY setup, I found the right size hole that worked for both suppressed subsonic and unsuppressed supersonic, leaving an extra space for a different size gas hole if needed in the future, and a blank/no hole position for turning off the gas.  I would think a no-hole regulator plate would be similar in concept to a plug limiting a shotgun magazine capacity...it can be removed (although not "instantly") if needed, but complies with the regulations/law.
11/7/2013 6:34:25 AM EDT
[#7]
OP is using a .936 barrel . That limits options.
11/8/2013 10:40:22 AM EDT
[#8]
Actually, having a standard gas block, and a gas tube that doesn't have the hole drilled in the front end, might be the best solution.  This way, I can either keep my gas block and just change tubes (it'd still look stock), or get another cheap .936 gas block, and the "blocked" tube.  Or, hell, I could just take the gas tube out all together, and turn the gas block a little so the holes don't line up.  It's hidden under the 16.75" handguard anyway.  That would seal the gas port in the barrel.



I think cheap bastard idea might win.  
11/8/2013 11:24:07 AM EDT
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Why not just install the gas block backwards. The hole isn't in the middle. It would be in front of the gas port that way and block it off.
11/8/2013 11:25:54 AM EDT
[#10]
Good idea.... I think the lo pro one I have on there now has the gas tube hole all the way thru it.  The other ones I have with rails on them don't have holes in the front.
11/8/2013 11:53:19 AM EDT
[#11]
The gas tube hole won't matter unless you just don't want to see it. The ports in the block and barrel won't line up so no gas will come out regardless.
11/8/2013 12:09:50 PM EDT
[#12]
SLR is where it's at!!!  Fantastic product!
11/8/2013 3:40:24 PM EDT
[#13]
Maybe I'll just a piece of steel the same dia as the gas tube and pin that in the gas block.  The gas tube comes out easy enough, just really need to cover the gas port in the barrel so it doesn't shoot gas/fire into the handguard...
11/8/2013 4:38:32 PM EDT
[#14]
Gas will not come out with the gas block turned around. The ports will not line up.
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