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10/28/2013 3:54:11 PM EDT
Hello all, lately i have considered buying some form of AR, but i am not very knowledgeable about them. I have 4 different rifles ranging from a .270 to a .300 RUM. I am looking for a rifle to hunt whitetail deer with in MN, along with some target shooting. I am thinking about a .308, but i would rather have the information from people who know what they're talking about. My price range is between 1,000 - 1800 and i am not sure about manufactures. Any information would be helpful. Thanks
10/28/2013 4:06:53 PM EDT
[#1]
a 6.8mm would do well for whitetail and you could use the lower receiver for 5.56 for cheaper shooting.
10/28/2013 4:14:49 PM EDT
[#2]
what part of mn?

I have taken over 12 deer right on the SD/MN border since 2004 I have used my RRA entry tac 16" barrel with an eotech. I prefer to walk shelter belts or draws to scare them up but that LEAVES ME TO SHOTS AT RUNNING DEER AT AROUND 150-250 METERS  a few times I have gotten lucky and had guys run them to me for a nice 50 meter shot on a running deer.

ammo choice is paramount I like open soft tip expanding 62-68 grain  I have not had as much luck with hollow points. even 55 grain soft tip has worked for me but I feel better using 64-68 grains.

Just remember to shoot until the animal's head is down if the head is up it will run again. If you plan to stand hunt get something with more power like a 308.
10/28/2013 4:16:24 PM EDT
[#3]
I will probably sound pretty dumb, but i dont know anything about the upper or lower parts. is there any websites that could provide alot of information? thanks
10/28/2013 4:19:35 PM EDT
[#4]
I hunt in the Alexandria area, and i will be hunting from a stand, so a .308 is what i am considering. Are there any certain manufactures that you would recommend? or a place to purchase them? thanks
10/28/2013 4:23:56 PM EDT
[#5]
Anything you Google will lead you back to this website, it is the best place to gather info... Take some time and do some reading in the forums and you will get armed with a ton of knowledge to build your own rifle That's what I did... I knew squat about AR's a year ago and now I have built 3.
10/28/2013 4:40:33 PM EDT
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a 6.8mm would do well for whitetail and you could use the lower receiver for 5.56 for cheaper shooting.
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10/28/2013 4:52:11 PM EDT
[#7]
Welcome. I went through this a year ago. If you want to stay with a .308 it is a larger rifle (AR10) and can be a lot heavier than something based on the AR15, but can be effective at longer ranges than most AR15 calibers, but not all.

What range do you plan to shoot at?
Do you reload your own ammo?

10/28/2013 4:55:07 PM EDT
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I hunt in the Alexandria area, and i will be hunting from a stand, so a .308 is what i am considering. Are there any certain manufactures that you would recommend? or a place to purchase them? thanks
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A .308 AR is an expensive waste of money in your situation. JMHO.

It sounds like you have a stable of more traditional hunting rifles. I would simply buy a light weight midlength 16" or rifle length 20" in 5.56 and scope it. That's just what I did and my more traditional rifles have taken a back seat in the closet. Stay away from all the add on crap and either go free float tube or Magpul MOE to keep the weight down. My PSA Magpul MOE edition weighs just 7.4 lbs with a Leupold VX-R 2-7 in Bobro QD mounts, Magpul back up rear, VTAC sling and 20 round mag loaded with 10 rounds.

Unless you're hunting moose up there, you don't need a .308 for whitetails.
10/28/2013 5:09:34 PM EDT
[#9]
You could have the best of both worlds  for under 1400$
Get a  Colt 6920 and  buy a  762x40 barrel for it.
Beats the 6.8 and the  300 BO and you can shoot  up to the 150 grain .30 cal  bullets in it . Great Dear rifle up here in CO for our big Mule Deer.
Later get another upper and  use  the 223 barrel , same bolt and everything for both calibers
Great increase in power.
Loco
10/28/2013 5:13:43 PM EDT
[#10]
.223/5.56 with good bullets is fine.  I've killed 3 whitetails already this year w/Fed Fusion loads.
10/28/2013 5:47:41 PM EDT
[#11]
5.56    77 gr bullet has no problem dropping white tail.
10/28/2013 6:02:05 PM EDT
[#12]
I went with an Armalite AR10 TCBNF and have never looked back.  It will easily shoot groups well under MOA and I have complete confidence in it.

Forget the larger calibers that will work in AR15 sized rifles, go with a .308.
10/28/2013 6:41:47 PM EDT
[#13]
I also recomend the 6.8SPC II.

It is a very versatile round.

300blk or whisper are some other options.

10/28/2013 7:26:40 PM EDT
[#14]
I've killed lots of deer with a 223 AR and just started using a 6.8. I like both, but te 6.8 is better for deer.
10/29/2013 3:01:49 AM EDT
[#15]
so if you stand hunt what distance is your longest shot ? let the job decide which rifle you need . if your not shooting any further than 150 yds then the options are many . If your setting on a stnad over a 600yd bean field the options narrow. .  you might want to check out the smith and wesson M & P 10  for a 308 in your price range.
10/29/2013 3:36:20 AM EDT
[#16]
6,8 SPC or 6.5 Grendel.....
10/29/2013 4:10:11 AM EDT
[#17]
If you want a 308, look at the Smith and Wesson MP10.  They average about $1600.  I would put a free float rail on it though.
10/29/2013 9:21:03 AM EDT
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.223/5.56 with good bullets is fine.  I've killed 3 whitetails already this year w/Fed Fusion loads.
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What length barrel? Trying to decide between my free floated 14.5" rifle, or my 16" rifle using fusion MSR loads for white tails.
10/29/2013 5:01:36 PM EDT
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Alrighty i took a look at Smith and Wesson and came up with the Model M&P10 .308 WIN/ 7.62x51. Any reviews or anyone own it? thanks and how about as far as a scope goes? I like the Nikon Buckmaster BDC that i have on my other rifle, good for this?
10/29/2013 5:02:07 PM EDT
[#20]
Alrighty i took a look at Smith and Wesson and came up with the Model M&P10 .308 WIN/ 7.62x51. Any reviews or anyone own it? thanks and how about as far as a scope goes? I like the Nikon Buckmaster BDC that i have on my other rifle, good for this?
10/29/2013 5:27:22 PM EDT
[#21]
You have a 270.   Why Waste money on an inferior round for deer?   In fact, to step up to 308 you would be adding a ton of weight to the rifle for no gain.
10/29/2013 6:15:00 PM EDT
[#22]
if you will look in the variant section you will find more reviews of 308 rifles
10/30/2013 11:19:26 AM EDT
[#23]
I want something to hunt with and use at the range, and i rarely use my .270 as my girlfriend is using it. So an AR is something that i want to look into, and why not use it for hunting
10/30/2013 2:19:24 PM EDT
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I want something to hunt with and use at the range, and i rarely use my .270 as my girlfriend is using it. So an AR is something that i want to look into, and why not use it for hunting
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there is no reason not to hunt with an ar . thats about all I use for a variety of game .  I have 5.56 , 300 blackout , 458 socom calibers . I sold my 308 because it was to big and heavy for where I live and hunt . thats why I ask what will be your average shooting range . a 5.56 with barnes 70 grain tsx bullet is a dead deer out to 200 yds . also a 5.56 will be about the cheapest to feed when it comes to range time.
10/30/2013 2:48:06 PM EDT
[#25]
For Whitetail I would build a Lightwiehgt 18 inch AR in 5.56/.223.






I know you like bigger calibers, but many deers have been harvested with .223/5.56 with the right ammo and shot placement out to 200 yards.

 
10/30/2013 2:50:28 PM EDT
[#26]
Check out this section OP.



11/1/2013 11:54:22 AM EDT
[#27]
I would go with .223 if you are going to do some range work.  It is far cheaper than the other calibers and at a reasonable distance will kill deer just fine.  I have a Daniel Defense lightweight that is super accurate under 200 yards that I'll be hunting a little with this year.  Some of those other calibers might be a better deer load but they won't be cheap at the range.
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