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Posted: 10/14/2013 10:58:42 AM EDT
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Hey guys just got a DPMS Recon from Cabelas for 1049.99.
I have added an EOTech The gun has been shooting flawlessly, but then I did some research and saw many complaints about DPMS and their rifles. Should I keep this guy or sell it and start from scratch? I know I should've built my own, so no need to suggest that. Thanks! ~Kinn12 http://i.imgur.com/fAm1GnT.jpg |
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they USED to be a company to complain about. people dont easily forget.
doesn't mean there is anything wrong with DPMS. if it works as it should and is accurate keep it.I would get a different rail, but thats just me. keep it well oiled, get it HOT and run it hard. after 1,000 rounds you will know how it is. |
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id probably keep it, unless it keeps you up at night.
the main thing with DPMS, at least as far as i've seen, is that they sometimes used cheaper parts that weren't "milspec". this might bother you, or it might not. their barrels were usually very accurate barrels though, at least the ones i've seen. |
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Thanks for all the feedback fellas. You've changed my mind to keep what I got and just keep pouring lead down the range.
I didn't expect to hear positive things about DPMS, but I guess it's just most people are still stuck on their quality control from previous years possibly? The only thing that really bothers me is the heavy, gritty trigger. That's seems to be a problem with a lot of AR's not just DPMS. I'm thinking an SSA-E trigger in the near future should do. ~Kinn12 |
| I had a DPMS 243 which shot flawlessly and very accurate. Sold it for a Oracle 308. After 80 rounds, have bolt damage. You can see the pics in the maintenance section under bolt damage. Could be a fluk. Dropped it off a week ago so waiting impatiently on why this happened. Would suggest use plenty of oil to break it in, and if it shoots to your liking, keep it. Am on the fence at this point. |
| I currently run 4 rifles. Two Franken builds with 16" DPMS barrels (one chrome lined and one chrome moly). One BCM 16" non hammer forged and one Daniel Defense all 4 on different lowers. My DPMS 16" chrome lined barrel upper will out shoot the other 3. I run 65gr. soft point hand loads through it and group .5 moa at 100 yd. bench rest. DPMS has had their share of issues but take your gun out and run it and see how it performs. When you hit the1000 round mark report back and tell us if your still satisfied with it. I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. If it was mine however I would put a better trigger in it. I run CMC single stage straight triggers and couldn't be happier. YMMV. |
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I would say you should keep it and if it breaks fix the weak link. I think if you sell it and buy another rifle you will always be able to find negative reviews. That'd be my approach. You aren't going to get your money back selling it. Have fun, shoot the shit out of it, and replace parts with higher quality stuff as you run into problems. |
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I would keep it and build around it. DPMS used to be a company that we could complain about. I believe that their QC has stepped up though in the last few years. If it works, then shoot it. Just because it doesnt have a Colt rollmark doesn't mean it's a pile of junk.
My DPMS rifle has seen nearly 3500-4000 rounds, still with standard bolt and carrier group and trigger. I did, however, change somethings to suit my shooting preferance. 
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Kinn12,
You have chosen wisely, thanks for buying a DPMS! 
The Recon is one of our most popular rifles and a great package. As some have stated if you ask 10 people the same question on "what's better" you will always get different answers. It's human nature. And yes over the years our QC has improved and we are always continuing to improve on all aspects just like everyone else. One thing to remember (some people don't like this) is that we are one of the biggest manufactures in the industry; this gives us the ability to offer a great rifle at a great price. Also we sell many components to other manufactures and some of the coveted "top tier" custom builders. |
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Well yeah I would be betting my life on it, but the current rifle goes bang 100% of the time, fairly accurately too... Quoted:
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Is this a range gun or something you will be betting your life on? Well yeah I would be betting my life on it, but the current rifle goes bang 100% of the time, fairly accurately too... You might want to run it hard, hot, and dirty for awhile. Many people find that the gun that was 100% on the range shooting 30 rounds a month will not run when used in a carbine course. Yours might still be 100%, but if you already have some doubts, you might want to test it. |
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You might want to run it hard, hot, and dirty for awhile. Many people find that the gun that was 100% on the range shooting 30 rounds a month will not run when used in a carbine course. Yours might still be 100%, but if you already have some doubts, you might want to test it. Quoted:
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Is this a range gun or something you will be betting your life on? Well yeah I would be betting my life on it, but the current rifle goes bang 100% of the time, fairly accurately too... You might want to run it hard, hot, and dirty for awhile. Many people find that the gun that was 100% on the range shooting 30 rounds a month will not run when used in a carbine course. Yours might still be 100%, but if you already have some doubts, you might want to test it. Not everybody in the world is a Mall Ninja Tactical Operator let the man enjoy his rifle. |
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Is this a range gun or something you will be betting your life on? Well yeah I would be betting my life on it, but the current rifle goes bang 100% of the time, fairly accurately too... You might want to run it hard, hot, and dirty for awhile. Many people find that the gun that was 100% on the range shooting 30 rounds a month will not run when used in a carbine course. Yours might still be 100%, but if you already have some doubts, you might want to test it. Not everybody in the world is a Mall Ninja Tactical Operator let the man enjoy his rifle. Is anything I said factually incorrect? This is in the tech forum, and he came in asking what people thought about DPMS, not a pat on the back. |
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Is anything I said factually incorrect? This is in the tech forum, and he came in asking what people thought about DPMS, not a pat on the back. Quoted:
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Is this a range gun or something you will be betting your life on? Well yeah I would be betting my life on it, but the current rifle goes bang 100% of the time, fairly accurately too... You might want to run it hard, hot, and dirty for awhile. Many people find that the gun that was 100% on the range shooting 30 rounds a month will not run when used in a carbine course. Yours might still be 100%, but if you already have some doubts, you might want to test it. Not everybody in the world is a Mall Ninja Tactical Operator let the man enjoy his rifle. Is anything I said factually incorrect? This is in the tech forum, and he came in asking what people thought about DPMS, not a pat on the back. Yes it is factually incorrect I have seen DPMS rifles run just as good as any other rifle they fail just like any other rifle maybe a little more or a little less you have 0 factual statistics to back up your claim so if you want to keep it tech show us stats that you draw your conclusion from. I am not even a DPMS owner and I am tired of the pile on the guy who bought a DPMS and make him feel bad about his purchase. I have seen guys run carbine course with DPMS so long as they were lubed they ran just like the other rifles in the course. Rifles that have problems usually can be attributed to user error (not enough lube or shitty mags). Where are the MOD's when the AR snobs and 13'ers jump the guy who bought a DPMS rifle. ETA Welcome to the forum OP fine rifle you have there! Go shoot the hell out of it and enjoy it. |
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Yes it is factually incorrect I have seen DPMS rifles run just as good as any other rifle they fail just like any other rifle Completely irrelevant. You don't seem to understand statistics. The fact that you have seen some DPMS rifles that run every bit as good as the other brand does not mean that on average DPMS is as good or bad as the other brand. Regardless, I never said DPMS was worse than XX brand anyways. The guy had concerns about DPMS, and I just told him to test it. I didn't dog his rifle, or DPMS. Casual light use is less apt to show manufacturing defects than hard use, so the fact that a rifle runs 100% when it is clean, cool, and new doesn't prove much, regardless of brand. maybe a little more or a little less you have 0 factual statistics to back up your claim so if you want to keep it tech show us stats that you draw your conclusion from. I never claimed anything about DPMS. Where are the MOD's when the AR snobs and 13'ers jump the guy who bought a DPMS rifle. I never even mentioned DPMS, I just said test it. The advice I gave would be wise for anyone with any brand of rifle. Especially someone who started a thread with doubts about theirs. You seem to think I am a DPMS hater, when I said nothing about DPMS or their rifles specifically. |
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Hey guys just got a DPMS Recon from Cabelas for 1049.99. You could've bought a higher quality rifle for less money. I have added an EOTech You bought the version that continues to have failure issues. The gun has been shooting flawlessly, but then I did some research and saw many complaints about DPMS and their rifles. How many rounds have you fired for this "flawless" declaration? Should I keep this guy or sell it and start from scratch? I know I should've built my own, so no need to suggest that. No, you probably shouldn't have. Most folks do not have the knowledge or tools to properly build an AR15. Thanks! ~Kinn12 http://i.imgur.com/fAm1GnT.jpg Also curious why you have an Eotech sight designed for quick target acquisition on a rifle with a stainless steel barrel and a bipod? The optic you've chosen is counter to the advantages afforded you by the SS barrel and bipod. What you haven't said is what you want the rifle to do. Thus, we can't intelligently offer input as to whether you should keep it or sell it, and what you should potentially replace it with. So, what is the gun for? Personal defense? LEO Patrol? Competition? Hunting? Shooting small groups far away? Shooting as fast as possible close up? With that info, we can offer some advice to save you some time and money. If you just want an AR because you think they're cool and you want to show it off to your buddies and the internet, then ignore everything above and keep what you have...a lot of people will think you're awesome. |
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Yes it is factually incorrect I have seen DPMS rifles run just as good as any other rifle they fail just like any other rifle Completely irrelevant. You don't seem to understand statistics. The fact that you have seen some DPMS rifles that run every bit as good as the other brand does not mean that on average DPMS is as good or bad as the other brand. Regardless, I never said DPMS was worse than XX brand anyways. The guy had concerns about DPMS, and I just told him to test it. I didn't dog his rifle, or DPMS. Casual light use is less apt to show manufacturing defects than hard use, so the fact that a rifle runs 100% when it is clean, cool, and new doesn't prove much, regardless of brand. maybe a little more or a little less you have 0 factual statistics to back up your claim so if you want to keep it tech show us stats that you draw your conclusion from. I never claimed anything about DPMS. Where are the MOD's when the AR snobs and 13'ers jump the guy who bought a DPMS rifle. I never even mentioned DPMS, I just said test it. The advice I gave would be wise for anyone with any brand of rifle. Especially someone who started a thread with doubts about theirs. You seem to think I am a DPMS hater, when I said nothing about DPMS or their rifles specifically. You are right I apologize I just get tired of everyone jumping on users here because they bought a DPMS and running them into the ground it has got so bad lately that the lines are blurred. My bad but you get where I am coming from and hopefully have seen some of the users dogging others for buying what they deem to be lesser brands because they own a BCM Noveske Spikes Colt etc. Like above poster |
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You are right I apologize I just get tired of everyone jumping on users here because they bought a DPMS and running them into the ground it has got so bad lately that the lines are blurred. My bad but you get where I am coming from and hopefully have seen some of the users dogging others for buying what they deem to be lesser brands because they own a BCM Noveske Spikes Colt etc. Like above poster I appreciate that. I get where you are coming from, and I try not to be an asshole no matter my thoughts on an issue. |
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Grow a set... the man asked questions, I answered them and then asked him for clarification. Maybe you need a break from the internet if honest conversation offends you so much. Quoted:
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Like above poster Grow a set... the man asked questions, I answered them and then asked him for clarification. Maybe you need a break from the internet if honest conversation offends you so much. No I am good .... |
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Like above poster Grow a set... the man asked questions, I answered them and then asked him for clarification. Maybe you need a break from the internet if honest conversation offends you so much. No I am good .... Well alrighty then, glad we can be friends! 
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Like above poster Grow a set... the man asked questions, I answered them and then asked him for clarification. Maybe you need a break from the internet if honest conversation offends you so much. No I am good .... Well alrighty then, glad we can be friends! Me to now back to topic before MOD locks OP's thread. |
| I have had one for about a year and a half and it has treated me just fine. Its a great value and after 3000 rounds my only complaint is that some steal case ammo namely Brown bear does not cycle the rifle a lot of the time. I have had good luck shooting Herters steal Case just that Brown Bear is poopy. |
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Hey douchebag you do realize shooting guns and collecting guns can be a hobby, correct? I was seeing what people thought about the firearm and if I should upgrade.
I can gaurantee the multiple computers I've built from scratch are a little bit more complicated than building an AR. I don't understand your need to be a douche when you know nothing about me and make assumptions. btw I sold the gun tonight for 900 @ASH556 |
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And the Harris bipod was for zeroing in my EOTech and my Nikon scope. Again nice assumption Arfcom can get a little prickly at times, try not to take it personally, we mean well. 
Anyways, what is the purpose you envisioned for the gun, is this a HD gun, SHTF, hunting, 3 gun, etc.? You might want to read on this thread: http://www.zombiehunters.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=74337 It lists some ar15 features that you may or may not find desirable. I advise you research those listed features and decide if they are important to you or not. I think after researching these traits you will have a better idea of what exactly you want in a gun and what to do about your current situation. |
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Hey guys just got a DPMS Recon from Cabelas for 1049.99. You could've bought a higher quality rifle for less money. Yeah, but some people buy to get real world results, make little groups of holes on paper, kill game and self preservation. Not to feed thier internet ego. I have added an EOTech You bought the version that continues to have failure issues. EOTech sells a battery compartment grommet repair kit to address the spring contact issue in the AA models. Welcome to 2010. http://www.lonestarpse.com/eotech-contact-replacement-kit-sight-side-9-nbumper.html |
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