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10/7/2013 5:11:57 AM EDT
With a 16 barrel AR 15 up to 300 yds.Do you have to "free float" the 4 rail ? Or does it really matter? Thanks in advance.
10/7/2013 5:16:26 AM EDT
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In a combat situation, no it wont matter.
10/7/2013 5:25:28 AM EDT
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No, it doesn't matter.  In a SHTF situation, you're preparedness is more vital than anything.
10/7/2013 5:28:24 AM EDT
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No it doesn't matter...in fact I would probably rather have standard removeable handguards in place on a shtf rifle for ease of maintenance in the field.
10/7/2013 5:55:40 AM EDT
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Makes a great point
10/7/2013 5:56:29 AM EDT
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What maintenance are you doing under your handguard?
10/7/2013 6:00:47 AM EDT
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What maintenance are you doing under your handguard?


who knows..maybe a bullet went through the rail and hit the gas tube...
10/7/2013 6:31:06 AM EDT
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who knows..maybe a bullet went through the rail and hit the gas tube...
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No it doesn't matter...in fact I would probably rather have standard removeable handguards in place on a shtf rifle for ease of maintenance in the field.


What maintenance are you doing under your handguard?


who knows..maybe a bullet went through the rail and hit the gas tube...


You'll need a punch, hammer and replacement tube at that point.  

More consideration needs to be put into back up weapon, sidearm training and survival skills than what type of handguard to use if SHTF is truly your motivating factor.
10/7/2013 6:36:02 AM EDT
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With a 16 barrel AR 15 up to 300 yds.Do you have to "free float" the 4 rail ? Or does it really matter? Thanks in advance.
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No, it doesn't matter, at least not for the thousands and thousands and thousands of military 14.5" carbines.
10/7/2013 6:43:39 AM EDT
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No it doesn't matter...in fact I would probably rather have standard removeable handguards in place on a shtf rifle for ease of maintenance in the field.


What maintenance are you doing under your handguard?


who knows..maybe a bullet went through the rail and hit the gas tube...

If that were to happen, then you've got WAY worse problems to deal with than a broken rifle.
10/7/2013 6:45:26 AM EDT
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I can't believe what I'm reading!   In a SHTF event, you MUST be prepared for ANY situation.  Redundancy will SAVE YOUR LIFE!

If you don't have one of these. you'll die.




10/7/2013 6:45:36 AM EDT
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No it doesn't matter...in fact I would probably rather have standard removeable handguards in place on a shtf rifle for ease of maintenance in the field.


What maintenance are you doing under your handguard?


who knows..maybe a bullet went through the rail and hit the gas tube...


You guys do realize they make handguards that attach to the barrel nut that are very easily removable with a screwdriver or allen wrench - DD Omega and Omega X, Alpha rail, etc etc just to name a few.
10/7/2013 7:20:24 AM EDT
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You do not need a FF on your SHTF carbine.
10/7/2013 8:30:59 AM EDT
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I have spare barrels, spare barrel wrenches, spare gas tubes, spare roll pins.  I could probably rebuild my entire rifle 6 times before I'd run out of parts.  But this also comes from only owning two AR's.  I understand the fact that you might be out and about, far away from home.  If you're that worried about it, build another upper to have as a spare, or an entire rifle.  Put it in a ground cache somewhere on your property.

Personally besides the optic and flashlight, my gun is pretty KISS.  As others have said, FF rails vs drop in handguards are the least of your worries.  I'd much rather be concerned with clean drinking water, food, and shelter.
10/7/2013 9:00:08 AM EDT
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If that were to happen, then you've got WAY worse problems to deal with than a broken rifle.
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No it doesn't matter...in fact I would probably rather have standard removeable handguards in place on a shtf rifle for ease of maintenance in the field.


What maintenance are you doing under your handguard?


who knows..maybe a bullet went through the rail and hit the gas tube...

If that were to happen, then you've got WAY worse problems to deal with than a broken rifle.

I don't want it unless it comes with a decoder and a swiss army knife.
10/7/2013 10:48:02 AM EDT
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If you drop it in the mud, or get other foreign material under the handguards, it would be way easier to clean if they were removable.
10/7/2013 10:57:04 AM EDT
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If you drop it in the mud, or get other foreign material under the handguards, it would be way easier to clean if they were removable.
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No it doesn't matter...in fact I would probably rather have standard removeable handguards in place on a shtf rifle for ease of maintenance in the field.


What maintenance are you doing under your handguard?


If you drop it in the mud, or get other foreign material under the handguards, it would be way easier to clean if they were removable.


That sounds more like a disability.  If they're free float, you can just run water down the front and wash it out without removal.  With drop in, you would have to remove the handguard, limiting the users fighting capability while being cleaned.  Plastic drop ins would limit intake better than drop in rails if that is your concern.
10/7/2013 12:32:06 PM EDT
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Any rifle You have that is zero'd and reliable.

You will need night vision, food, ammo, water, and physical strength and endurance more than a top tier rifle.

If it is truly SHTF, There will be tons laying around to choose from.
10/7/2013 12:38:39 PM EDT
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Any rifle You have that is zero'd and reliable.

You will need night vision, food, ammo, water, and physical strength and endurance more than a top tier rifle.

If it is truly SHTF, There will be tons laying around to choose from.
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not too mention vaccines,medical experience,chemical,biological,radiation,water purification,sewage treatment,and food,whiskey,cigarettes
and tampons....if you have a large supply of tampons and kotex you will rule the world come teotwawki day depending on the time
of the month...oh and soap and deodorant and tp
10/7/2013 12:48:56 PM EDT
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And all those rifles will look new and have really nice handguards.
10/7/2013 12:57:20 PM EDT
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No, it doesn't matter.  In a SHTF situation, you're preparedness is more vital than anything.
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This!............
10/7/2013 1:18:34 PM EDT
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Pretty much this. Without a rig configured like that, you're surely doomed.

ETA - wait, I don't see a blender, so that guy is actually fucked.
10/7/2013 1:47:11 PM EDT
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Try out a Colt AR6721 and see if you still need to free-float.  Mine is just as accurate as my 6940.
10/7/2013 1:48:09 PM EDT
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I don't think you will be repairing anything under a handguard without some armorer tools.  Just saying...
10/7/2013 2:43:00 PM EDT
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Cardio.... above all else you need cardio

10/7/2013 3:28:09 PM EDT
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Nope you dont not need the barrel to be FF, unless you want to build a precision AR for SHTF hunting.
10/7/2013 4:02:37 PM EDT
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95% percent of armed engagements take place under 100yds and of that 80 % take place well under 50 with probably ranges measured in feet from that.Have a good reliable rifle thats been tested and zeroed..lube it well use good mags and get gear to carry ammo,water and accesories you need for the task at hand and youll have a good set up for "utility purposes"
10/7/2013 4:26:42 PM EDT
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It doesn't matter, if SHTF, you have bigger fish to fry IMO.
10/7/2013 5:58:44 PM EDT
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This man gets it. A rifle no matter the configuration is not going to do you much good if your falling out from being a out of shape fat body.
10/7/2013 8:02:20 PM EDT
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You can be out of shape at any weight
10/8/2013 4:40:39 AM EDT
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My SHTF rifle has a light weight non freefloated barrel and a reddot. I'm proficient at hitting steel silhouettes at 300.
10/8/2013 5:26:52 AM EDT
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I personally would take the FF.  In survival mode you will be entering lots of structures(ie. houses) for supplies,  you cant punch out properly with your sling & reggie handguards and not affect point of aim in quck engagements in a CQB setting.  Because last time I checked most supplies will be inside.
10/8/2013 5:38:55 AM EDT
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Whatever. Round is a shape.




10/8/2013 6:11:15 AM EDT
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Just get the best quality rifle you can afford. That rifle is way down the list of survival tools during SHTF. Water filtration, food, shelter, and a circle or trustworthy friends will be top priorities. The weapon is to secure those things. Drink bad water and that nice rifle is worthless when you are dying from dehydration cause you are shitting yourself to death.
10/11/2013 9:16:44 AM EDT
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There is no performance downside to free float.  Many are lighter than handguard setups.
10/11/2013 9:28:37 AM EDT
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Honestly you'll be good out to 500 yds with a non free float.  But in SHTF scenario you'll probably be looking at under a hundy.
10/11/2013 9:37:46 AM EDT
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I personally would take the FF.  In survival mode you will be entering lots of structures(ie. houses) for supplies,  you cant punch out properly with your sling & reggie handguards and not affect point of aim in quck engagements in a CQB setting.  Because last time I checked most supplies will be inside.
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But if you are indoors shooting at less than a hundred feet how much are you really going to move your POI?
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