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Posted: 5/9/2013 11:55:56 AM EDT
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Gentlemen,
I am looking to put a different muzzle device on a franken build ar and I was wondering if you could give me some ideas on what you like and don't like. About the gun. It is a simple stag upper that I chopped down the fsp and put on a evo 15 inch rail onto. It is run with an eotech 2-2. It is what I call my burner gun. I enjoy shooting rounds through it but I have other preferred guns. The lower is a spikes with a geissele ssa. Intended use of the gun is a range play toy. I have a open range that I can do movement drills and basically what ever I want. If you would be so kind as to tell me which muzzle device you like, what other devices you have used and what you liked or didn't like about them. Like so. preferred: battlecomp 2.0 others: AAC 51t. Was going to put a can on it then moved to a state that wouldn't allow. I get a ringing after shots. Don't particularly care for it. I will not being using a can so mounting options are not something we need to worry about. I have had brief encounters with breaks and know little about them. I believe it was a seekins but only fired about 150 rounds with it so I did not get a very good chance to size it up. Thanks for the info guys. |
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It really does depend on what you are looking for.
I prefer compensators when I'm not worrying about mounting a can. I've had good experiences with the BC 1.5 and BCM Comp Mod 1 (specifically those models because I almost primarily run a 14.5" with a blind pinned muzzle device.) I also don't mind standard Flash Hiders. Nothing wrong with a good old A2 and as posted above, if you're looking for flash suppression the Smith Vortex pretty much can't be beat. Don't have entirely too much experience with brakes either, but the few I've dealth with have been ear popping loud. For that reason I wouldn't run one. |
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I was looking at doing a 14.5 build in the near future which would have had a 1.5 on it from battlecomp.
I am deaf so I wear double ears every time Im on the range sonic defenders under leights. Im generally alone or with family or friends when shooting so I don't have to worry much about it being loud. I would really like to hear some from the folks who use comps or full breaks. Which ones they thought were running best for them which ones seem gimmicky with small results. I like the way the gun shoots and have considered throwing my 1-4 power on there and using it for 3 gun so a comp might be to benefit although I will need to go back over rules as anything involving breaks and what not has never really applied to me. |
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It really does depend on what you are looking for. I prefer compensators when I'm not worrying about mounting a can. I've had good experiences with the BC 1.5 and BCM Comp Mod 1 (specifically those models because I almost primarily run a 14.5" with a blind pinned muzzle device.) I also don't mind standard Flash Hiders. Nothing wrong with a good old A2 and as posted above, if you're looking for flash suppression the Smith Vortex pretty much can't be beat. Don't have entirely too much experience with brakes either, but the few I've dealth with have been ear popping loud. For that reason I wouldn't run one. I see this tossed around from time to time, but every video comparison I've seen of the Vortex and AAC Blackout show a slight edge to the Blackout in the flash suppression department. The difference may be subtle, and these two are surely the best two flash hiders on the market, but I'd have to say the Blackout is still the best out there...even if just by an inch. Yes, the Blackout is a bit pricier, but does it's job slightly better, looks sharper IMO, and you have the option to mount an AAC can in the future. |
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I was looking at doing a 14.5 build in the near future which would have had a 1.5 on it from battlecomp. I am deaf so I wear double ears every time Im on the range sonic defenders under leights. Im generally alone or with family or friends when shooting so I don't have to worry much about it being loud. I would really like to hear some from the folks who use comps or full breaks. Which ones they thought were running best for them which ones seem gimmicky with small results. I like the way the gun shoots and have considered throwing my 1-4 power on there and using it for 3 gun so a comp might be to benefit although I will need to go back over rules as anything involving breaks and what not has never really applied to me. BC 1.5 - Worked as advertised, muzzle jump was greatly decreased as what appeared to be a slight reduction in recoil. PWS FSC556 - Pretty much the same results as the BC but definitely had a louder concussion. BCM Comp Mod 1 - A little less compensation qualities than the first 2, but a slightly noticeable improvement in flash suppression. Surefire MB556 - Just about non existent recoil and muzzle jump, however, unnecessarily loud concussion and flash especially to anybody standing near the muzzle. |
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It really does depend on what you are looking for. I prefer compensators when I'm not worrying about mounting a can. I've had good experiences with the BC 1.5 and BCM Comp Mod 1 (specifically those models because I almost primarily run a 14.5" with a blind pinned muzzle device.) I also don't mind standard Flash Hiders. Nothing wrong with a good old A2 and as posted above, if you're looking for flash suppression the Smith Vortex pretty much can't be beat. Don't have entirely too much experience with brakes either, but the few I've dealth with have been ear popping loud. For that reason I wouldn't run one. I see this tossed around from time to time, but every video comparison I've seen of the Vortex and AAC Blackout show a slight edge to the Blackout in the flash suppression department. The difference may be subtle, and these two are surely the best two flash hiders on the market, but I'd have to say the Blackout is still the best out there...even if just by an inch. Yes, the Blackout is a bit pricier, but does it's job slightly better, looks sharper IMO, and you have the option to mount an AAC can in the future. I agree but for the money the Smith wins. Is that little bit of flash that noticeable? I have used both and shot quite a bit at night and I cannot tell a difference from shooter perspective. If I was going to run an AAC suppressor that uses 51T mount I would get the Blackout. |
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It really does depend on what you are looking for. I prefer compensators when I'm not worrying about mounting a can. I've had good experiences with the BC 1.5 and BCM Comp Mod 1 (specifically those models because I almost primarily run a 14.5" with a blind pinned muzzle device.) I also don't mind standard Flash Hiders. Nothing wrong with a good old A2 and as posted above, if you're looking for flash suppression the Smith Vortex pretty much can't be beat. Don't have entirely too much experience with brakes either, but the few I've dealth with have been ear popping loud. For that reason I wouldn't run one. I see this tossed around from time to time, but every video comparison I've seen of the Vortex and AAC Blackout show a slight edge to the Blackout in the flash suppression department. The difference may be subtle, and these two are surely the best two flash hiders on the market, but I'd have to say the Blackout is still the best out there...even if just by an inch. Yes, the Blackout is a bit pricier, but does it's job slightly better, looks sharper IMO, and you have the option to mount an AAC can in the future. I agree but for the money the Smith wins. Is that little bit of flash that noticeable? I have used both and shot quite a bit at night and I cannot tell a difference from shooter perspective. If I was going to run an AAC suppressor that uses 51T mount I would get the Blackout. Yeah. I've got an AAC can on the way, so the AAC was obviously a must for me. I'm just pointing out that while the flash difference may be negligible, and possibly unnoticeable by the user, the AAC Blackout is still the best flash hider on the market. For that reason and the looks alone, even if I didn't have an AAC can on the way, I'd still personally opt to pay the few extra bucks for the AAC. JMO. |
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And OP, if you're looking for a comp, I too would highly recommend the BC 1.5. It's a great jack of all trades muzzle device. You get some good recoil reduction without much added concussive blast or flash. I like them. And the fact that I can pull it off a 16 and pin it on a 14.5 if I decide to go that route is great. I like the 2.0 so I would guess I will like the 1.5 as well. |
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And OP, if you're looking for a comp, I too would highly recommend the BC 1.5. It's a great jack of all trades muzzle device. You get some good recoil reduction without much added concussive blast or flash. I like them. And the fact that I can pull it off a 16 and pin it on a 14.5 if I decide to go that route is great. I like the 2.0 so I would guess I will like the 1.5 as well. I have a 2.0 and a 1.5. I find the 1.5 to be a bit better in flash suppression due to its extended length design. I also really dig the look of the 1.5. |
I'm going to add the Dynacomp into this. What I like about it? With a good cheek weld and stance, it does a great job at reducing muzzle rise and with my set up, I can't imagine anything making more of a noticeable difference. It's loud which is fine outdoors and the concussion isn't too bad. It also produces a huge flame  which I like as well.
Glamor shot of it pinned on my 14.5 middie 
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| Tried Battlecomp and Griffin Armament M4SD Comp and liked the GA better than the BC. Many others have the same results plus it is cheaper, not as piercing loud and controled muzzle rise better for me under quick mag dumps. I know the BC has a cult following but much of that is from the photo threads on this forum lol!!!! Try them for yourself and see what works for you. GA has my business for my other rifles as well now. YMMV.....? |
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