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4/1/2013 7:40:30 AM EDT
I went out yesterday and my friends wife wanted to shoot an AR. After she shot about 20 rounds ....squib.
She doesn't have much experience shooting so I am glad that she was careful enough to notice it, so no one was hurt....

Anyway my question is, The load appears to have been a primer only squib. After researching, the general consensus seems to be to tap it out in the direction of the muzzle. But there are a lot of guys out there that have also said that if the bullet is right at the breech then they tap it out that direction.   Will this method damage an AR barrel?  

Thanks for the advise
4/1/2013 7:45:55 AM EDT
[#1]
Quoted:
I went out yesterday and my friends wife wanted to shoot an AR. After she shot about 20 rounds ....squib.
She doesn't have much experience shooting so I am glad that she was careful enough to notice it, so no one was hurt....

Anyway my question is, The load appears to have been a primer only squib. After researching, the general consensus seems to be to tap it out in the direction of the muzzle. But there are a lot of guys out there that have also said that if the bullet is right at the breech then they tap it out that direction.   Will this method damage an AR barrel?  

Thanks for the advise


I'd advise against inserting a rod through the muzzle, ever.  Get one of these, it'll help

cleaning rod guide
4/1/2013 7:47:08 AM EDT
[#2]
I had 2 squibs, nearly back to back which was fucking weird. I just tapped out the bullets back in the breach. Came out easy. Barrel wasn't damaged & shot fine. I check the seating on all my rounds now before loading them up.

The biggest burden of the squib was cleaning all of the gun powder out of my upper & lower receivers

What ammo were you using?
4/1/2013 8:08:44 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
I had 2 squibs, nearly back to back which was fucking weird. I just tapped out the bullets back in the breach. Came out easy. Barrel wasn't damaged & shot fine. I check the seating on all my rounds now before loading them up.

The biggest burden of the squib was cleaning all of the gun powder out of my upper & lower receivers

What ammo were you using?


It was from a Remington UMC 50rd box.  I bought in May or June of 2012.  I tossed the box, however since the barrel doesn't appear to be damaged I'm not that concerned. (sorry I don't have the production date)
4/1/2013 8:23:29 AM EDT
[#4]
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I had 2 squibs, nearly back to back which was fucking weird. I just tapped out the bullets back in the breach. Came out easy. Barrel wasn't damaged & shot fine. I check the seating on all my rounds now before loading them up.

The biggest burden of the squib was cleaning all of the gun powder out of my upper & lower receivers

What ammo were you using?


It was from a Remington UMC 50rd box.  I bought in May or June of 2012.  I tossed the box, however since the barrel doesn't appear to be damaged I'm not that concerned. (sorry I don't have the production date)





Its sad times when Wolf makes better ammo then Remmington. And yes I have problems with their UMC as well.
4/1/2013 9:16:05 AM EDT
[#5]
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I had 2 squibs, nearly back to back which was fucking weird. I just tapped out the bullets back in the breach. Came out easy. Barrel wasn't damaged & shot fine. I check the seating on all my rounds now before loading them up.

The biggest burden of the squib was cleaning all of the gun powder out of my upper & lower receivers

What ammo were you using?


It was from a Remington UMC 50rd box.  I bought in May or June of 2012.  I tossed the box, however since the barrel doesn't appear to be damaged I'm not that concerned. (sorry I don't have the production date)


Its sad times when Wolf makes better ammo then Remmington. And yes I have problems with their UMC as well.



Yep, Remington ammo has seemingly gotten worse thru the years (tho never my favorite). Seems they'd take care of business and do better than Wolf

OP- I'd prefer not to insert a steel rod down the muzzle, (especially if not chrome lined)  Just my personal choice, maybe use brass or a dowel.
Edit: I rarely use a rod in my barrels, have seen too many bolt gun barrels damaged by them. Barrel steel is really pretty soft, chrome or Nitride is much tougher.
4/1/2013 10:25:59 AM EDT
[#6]
Tap it out, barrel's fine.  Take a light and see how far the bullet has traveled and tap it out which ever end is closer.  I've had a couple squibs and pushed them back out the breach too.
4/1/2013 12:05:00 PM EDT
[#7]
I've been there.  A GI steel cleaning rod is softer than most muzzle devices and definitely softer than your barrel.  However it is more efficient i the rod you use to tap the bullet out is centered, so a bore guide won't hurt.  Do not be surprised if the bullet is either VERY easy to tap out, or freaking HARD to get out,  it depends on how far into the barrel it went, and the jacket thickness.

Definitely knock it out in the shortest direction, which is almost certainly toward the breech.
4/1/2013 12:28:47 PM EDT
[#8]
one piece cleaning rod tap out the breach. I have done this twice with 45-70 and once with 45 LC never with 5.56.

make sure you separate the upper from the lower  and remove the bolt carrier group  so the bullet falls clear and you don't harm the bolt face
4/1/2013 12:44:18 PM EDT
[#9]
gotta agree on the rem ammo, I won't even use it any longer

4/1/2013 1:12:34 PM EDT
[#10]
Thanks for the help guys.
4/1/2013 2:17:24 PM EDT
[#11]
I had one with Wolf. In the breach just enough to not chamber the next round.
I tapped it out the breach end with a G.I. cleaning rod.
Dave N
4/1/2013 2:35:14 PM EDT
[#12]
I've cleared squibs in the past with a blank round, a lead sled, and a looooong string. Worked great as long as the blank has enough space to chamber behind the bullet.

Do this at your own peril.
4/1/2013 4:10:42 PM EDT
[#13]
I would think firing a blank would work?
4/1/2013 6:25:33 PM EDT
[#14]
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I've cleared squibs in the past with a blank round, a lead sled, and a looooong string. Worked great as long as the blank has enough space to chamber behind the bullet.

Do this at your own peril.


I like this idea lol,
4/1/2013 7:14:54 PM EDT
[#15]
I keep a one piece brass dowel rod in my truck when I go to the range for that "just in case". Luckily I've never used it.
4/1/2013 11:04:59 PM EDT
[#16]
I had a round of UMC that failed to go off the other day, It looked like a solid primer strike, I even tried it though again, I'm completely new to the AR, Is Remington ammo just that bad???

not trying to hijack
4/2/2013 11:34:44 AM EDT
[#17]
I have brass squib rods for my pistols and it's extremely rare to have to use them, but I take them to the range just in case and I've been able to help out others.  When you do go to get it out, don't be afraid to drip a little oil down onto the squib stuck in the barrel before whacking it with the rod.

Good luck, and be careful not to damage your crown.
4/2/2013 12:17:28 PM EDT
[#18]
For pistols, wooden dowels work great. For example, a 3/8 inch dowel capped with a brass 40 S&W case on both ends is perfect for a .45. 5/16 with a 9mm on each end works for a  .40, etc.  for rifles, a brass one peice cleaning rod is the ticket.
4/2/2013 1:40:57 PM EDT
[#19]
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I would think firing a blank would work?


Don't under any circumstances ever do this!  Dangerous.  No.

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4/2/2013 1:44:03 PM EDT
[#20]
Yeah.... That sounds like a bad idea..... But brass cleaning rod FTW..... Thanks for the advise
4/2/2013 2:07:05 PM EDT
[#21]
Will someone please explain to me what a squib is?
4/2/2013 2:10:31 PM EDT
[#22]
A "squib load" is a round where the powder charge is missing (or itsy bitsy) so that when you pull the trigger, the primer going off is all that propels the bullet forward.

It gets lodged in the barrel at some point, is noticeably quieter than it should be, likely won't cycle your weapon, and is dangerous (if you fired a subsequent full-power load).
4/2/2013 2:15:44 PM EDT
[#23]
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A "squib load" is a round where the powder charge is missing (or itsy bitsy) so that when you pull the trigger, the primer going off is all that propels the bullet forward.

It gets lodged in the barrel at some point, is noticeably quieter than it should be, likely won't cycle your weapon, and is dangerous (if you fired a subsequent full-power load).


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