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Posted: 2/6/2013 8:55:39 AM EDT
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Hey guys,
Quick opinions/knowledge wanted: I have found several Colt SP6920s and not as many LE6920s and I'm trying to decide whether or not to buy. From what I undersatnd, the rifles are the exact same except for the roll markes (Sport v. Law Enforcement). This is not an issue for me. What is an issue is the following: I've read in a couple different places that the SP's are older than the LE's, and that the SP's are not made anymore. Is this true? Can a seller today really have a "brand new" SP6920? Thanks. |
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Hey guys, Quick opinions/knowledge wanted: I have found several Colt SP6920s and not as many LE6920s and I'm trying to decide whether or not to buy. From what I undersatnd, the rifles are the exact same except for the roll markes (Sport v. Law Enforcement). This is not an issue for me. What is an issue is the following: I've read in a couple different places that the SP's are older than the LE's, and that the SP's are not made anymore. Is this true? Can a seller today really have a "brand new" SP6920? Thanks. I'm surprised that you're finding the SP's more common, they were pretty short lived. I don't even know if they lasted a year. The current LE6920's don't have the LE roll mark, they are all just labelled "M4 CARBINE" or "M4A1 Carbine." The only difference between the SP's and the current LE's is the SP's has an SP serial number and "SPORTER" above the M4 roll mark. I have a "brand new" SP6920 that lives in a box. I bought it last March and never took it out. The SP's are not necessarily older than LE's; LE's existed before and after (and possibly during) the production of SP variants. The LE underwent a change though when the rollmarks changed form having the restricted mark and saying "COLTS LAW ENFORCEMENT CARBINE" to the current "M4 CARBINE" and no restricted mark. This change happened with the introduction of the SP. |
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Hey guys, Quick opinions/knowledge wanted: I have found several Colt SP6920s and not as many LE6920s and I'm trying to decide whether or not to buy. From what I undersatnd, the rifles are the exact same except for the roll markes (Sport v. Law Enforcement). This is not an issue for me. What is an issue is the following: I've read in a couple different places that the SP's are older than the LE's, and that the SP's are not made anymore. Is this true? Can a seller today really have a "brand new" SP6920? Thanks. I'm surprised that you're finding the SP's more common, they were pretty short lived. I don't even know if they lasted a year. The current LE6920's don't have the LE roll mark, they are all just labelled "M4 CARBINE" or "M4A1 Carbine." The only difference between the SP's and the current LE's is the SP's has an SP serial number and "SPORTER" above the M4 roll mark. I have a "brand new" SP6920 that lives in a box. I bought it last March and never took it out. The SP's are not necessarily older than LE's; LE's existed before and after (and possibly during) the production of SP variants. The LE underwent a change though when the rollmarks changed form having the restricted mark and saying "COLTS LAW ENFORCEMENT CARBINE" to the current "M4 CARBINE" and no restricted mark. This change happened with the introduction of the SP. ^^ This. Also, if you can find an SP, just get it. The only difference is the roll markings. |
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Hey guys, Quick opinions/knowledge wanted: I have found several Colt SP6920s and not as many LE6920s and I'm trying to decide whether or not to buy. From what I undersatnd, the rifles are the exact same except for the roll markes (Sport v. Law Enforcement). This is not an issue for me. What is an issue is the following: I've read in a couple different places that the SP's are older than the LE's, and that the SP's are not made anymore. Is this true? Can a seller today really have a "brand new" SP6920? Thanks. I'm surprised that you're finding the SP's more common, they were pretty short lived. I don't even know if they lasted a year. The current LE6920's don't have the LE roll mark, they are all just labelled "M4 CARBINE" or "M4A1 Carbine." The only difference between the SP's and the current LE's is the SP's has an SP serial number and "SPORTER" above the M4 roll mark. I have a "brand new" SP6920 that lives in a box. I bought it last March and never took it out. The SP's are not necessarily older than LE's; LE's existed before and after (and possibly during) the production of SP variants. The LE underwent a change though when the rollmarks changed form having the restricted mark and saying "COLTS LAW ENFORCEMENT CARBINE" to the current "M4 CARBINE" and no restricted mark. This change happened with the introduction of the SP. What he said. I bought my SP last year when those were cheaper than the LE marked models. It's just a rollmark and $200 bucks was $200 bucks |
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I was under the impression the front take-down pin on the SP was larger than on the LE making the SP pin-size proprietary. On my LE I removed the threaded take-down pin and added a spring and detent and replaced it with a push-pull (standard) take-down pin. Don't confuse the old Colt models Sporters with the SP6920 Sporter, Colt went to standard small front take-down pins very long time ago in the early to mid 1990s, all Colt models in current production have the standard small pivot pins. OP, I have both the SP and LE 6920 carbines they're identical except for the roll marks, if you could get the SP marked at a good price jump on it. Another reason why the Sporter marked carbines are not very popular is because some states with their own AWB banned the word Sporter. I also thought that the SP6920 were only made in one year only in 2011 but I've seen newer barrel marked with 2012 and that's as well as the LE6920 "Colt's Law Enforcement Carbine" marked version which are still being currently made indicated by high serial numbers. |
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I was under the impression the front take-down pin on the SP was larger than on the LE making the SP pin-size proprietary. On my LE I removed the threaded take-down pin and added a spring and detent and replaced it with a push-pull (standard) take-down pin. Don't confuse the old Colt models Sporters with the SP6920 Sporter, Colt went to standard small front take-down pins very long time ago in the early to mid 1990s, all Colt models in current production have the standard small pivot pins. OP, I have both the SP and LE 6920 carbines they're identical except for the roll marks, if you could get the SP marked at a good price jump on it. Another reason why the Sporter marked carbines are not very popular is because some states with their own AWB banned the word Sporter. I also thought that the SP6920 were only made in one year only in 2011 but I've seen newer barrel marked with 2012 and that's as well as the LE6920 "Colt's Law Enforcement Carbine" marked version which are still being currently made indicated by high serial numbers. My SP was purchased in late March/early April 2012 and the barrel has a January 2012 date. I don't think it was limited to a specific year; I think it was made for about a year or less, so lets say maybe March 2011-February 2012. I don't know exactly what the dates were for the SP models, but that's just an example |
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Thanks. Yes, believe it or not, I've seen SP's around not scooped up as quickly as LE's. It made me wonder and look into it. If you can find a SP that ain't marked up gouging price and want a Colt GRAP IT!!!!! The plan last year was Colt was doing to stop the LE rollmark and just use the SP one. Problem was alot of LEO departments refused to buy something with "Sporter" on it. Also IIRR "Colt Sporter" was on California's ban list..... |
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