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10/19/2012 4:49:41 PM EDT
Hello Guys..

This is my first post, and M4 as well..

Im about 75% done with it.. Im going to add an A.R.M.S low profile flip up site, an Eotech magnifier, and finish it off with a MAGPUL UBR. I will update as I add parts..

Please feel free to share pics of you're LE6920, and advice on future accessories.

Thanks.

http://i1297.photobucket.com/albums/ag21/Ghazaleh6920/DSCN0439_zps272783ad.jpg


http://i1297.photobucket.com/albums/ag21/Ghazaleh6920/DSCN0442_zps71d16b17.jpg
10/19/2012 5:55:10 PM EDT
[#1]
glad to see someone kept their rogers stock.
10/19/2012 6:41:08 PM EDT
[#2]
Its actually not a bad stock..( what do I know)

Im hesitant on replacing it..
10/19/2012 6:41:54 PM EDT
[#3]
isn't A.R.M.S. / SWAN anti 2nd amendment or something?

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_219/182780_.html
10/19/2012 6:47:23 PM EDT
[#4]
Here is their link http://www.armsmounts.com .Seems pretty absurd considering they profit 99% from it... Anyhow All of their equipment is battle tested, and they own just about every patent out there ( ask troy arms about that one)..Solid equipment.. Very solid...
10/19/2012 7:27:28 PM EDT
[#5]
Speaking of aow suits, how many has arms filed and how many has he been successful t?

Dick sued mark larue over the number 17.
10/19/2012 7:37:35 PM EDT
[#6]
Very nice. Looks like we're brothers in arms...lol
This is my first post, M4, and colt 6920 as well.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l59/00s-dime00/DSC_0370.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l59/00s-dime00/DSC_0371.jpg
10/19/2012 8:05:02 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Very nice. Looks like we're brothers in arms...lol
This is my first post, M4, and colt 6920 as well.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l59/00s-dime00/DSC_0370.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l59/00s-dime00/DSC_0371.jpg


front sight is backwards
10/19/2012 8:49:51 PM EDT
[#8]
Good start. I'd have kept the stock FSB personally though.
10/19/2012 9:22:30 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Very nice. Looks like we're brothers in arms...lol
This is my first post, M4, and colt 6920 as well.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l59/00s-dime00/DSC_0370.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l59/00s-dime00/DSC_0371.jpg

i like that rail ,who makes  it ? and whats the lenght ?
10/19/2012 9:30:03 PM EDT
[#10]

This is how my LE6920 looks like now, although this is an actual pic of my older SP6920 Sporter carbine, I moved all these gear on my LE6920 and will update my pic when I shoot new pics.

I moved all these military type components on my LE carbine because I want to make it a M4 clone and I'm making my SP carbine a commercial civilian type carbine with non military gear.

I only slightly modified my LE carbine to use my light, red dot sight and vertical grip, but to mount my vertical grip and light properly I had to use a rail system.

Here's my LE carbine's details:

KAC M4 RAS rails and rail panels
KAC rail QD sling mount
KAC VFG
Magpul XTM rail panels & ladder rail protectors
Surefire M951C weaponlight
LMT rear sight
Colt M4 buttstock (from my older Colt carbine, installed my SuperStoc on my 6721 HBAR carbine)
Aimpoint M2 optic
LaRue LT-129 cantilever QD mount for Aimpoint
BCM extractor upgrade kit (not using the Crane O-ring)
Vickers VCAS foliage green two point sling with Blue Force Gear front heavy duty push button sling swivel
PMAG




My LE6920 roll makings


Ghazaleh6920:

I would advice you to also put a good light on it as soon as possible and I would highly recommend any Surefire light that you like.

Also you might want to add some rail covers like either the Magpul XTM or LaRue Index Clips, it would protect your rails from damage and insulate your rails from heat.

Got a sling for it yet? You should get that first after you get your rear sight, Vickers and Viking Tactics are pretty good, if you like to use your sling snug to your arm and body get the Viking sling.

Also heads up, Magpul PMAG NEW gen M3 mags will be released on Nov. 1st 2012, the black non window will be available first then the rest of the other colors and mags with windows will follow later.


10/20/2012 3:07:05 AM EDT
[#11]
Real nice OP, except for the ARMS stuff.






 
10/20/2012 3:33:53 AM EDT
[#12]



Quoted:


Here is their link http://www.armsmounts.com .Seems pretty absurd considering they profit 99% from it... Anyhow All of their equipment is battle tested, and they own just about every patent out there ( ask troy arms about that one)..Solid equipment.. Very solid...



I would say something about arms reputation for failure in the military, but don't want to get sued.

 





10/20/2012 3:35:45 AM EDT
[#13]



Quoted:



Quoted:

Very nice. Looks like we're brothers in arms...lol

This is my first post, M4, and colt 6920 as well.

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l59/00s-dime00/DSC_0370.jpg

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l59/00s-dime00/DSC_0371.jpg




front sight is backwards


No it's not.

 
10/20/2012 3:36:54 AM EDT
[#14]



Quoted:


Good start. I'd have kept the stock FSB personally though.


I have that arms unit, but have not installed it. It does seem like a good design.

 
10/20/2012 4:52:34 AM EDT
[#15]
Very nice... The clean black look holds its own with the LE6920.. What type of muzzle break is that? Its awesome looking..
10/20/2012 4:56:11 AM EDT
[#16]
Awesome.. Thanks for the advice.. Im going to look into the vikings tactics sling.. Heads up man..

10/20/2012 5:13:40 AM EDT
[#17]
I don't get to far into politics..Its pretty obvious how corrupt Washington is, and we will just leave it at that.  I come from a military family, and my uncle recommended A.R.M.S.. Let me tell you when a retired 1SG with four tours in Vietnam, and every medal under the sun with the exception of the medal of honor recommends an accessory you buy it.. If I have have problems with it ( which I doubt I will) A.R.M.S is really screwed.. The rail is a very  tight fit, and extremely light. Very easy to install as well.. Samson/ Troy models seemed a little loose, bulkier ( the troy), and heavier on other rifles at the show. The samson also required grind work on the FSB which Im opposed to. The Larue only comes in a 9/10/12, and I wanted the FSB model. As far as the FSB goes it closes and opens, and stays out of the way when needed.. with all the features of a stock FSB..

Im going to drop a 1000 rounds today I will update afterwards.

Thanks guys
10/20/2012 5:15:41 AM EDT
[#18]
10/20/2012 5:56:36 AM EDT
[#19]



Quoted:


I don't get to far into politics..Its pretty obvious how corrupt Washington is, and we will just leave it at that.  I come from a military family, and my uncle recommended A.R.M.S.. Let me tell you when a retired 1SG with four tours in Vietnam, and every medal under the sun with the exception of the medal of honor recommends an accessory you buy it.. If I have have problems with it ( which I doubt I will) A.R.M.S is really screwed.. The rail is a very  tight fit, and extremely light. Very easy to install as well.. Samson/ Troy models seemed a little loose, bulkier ( the troy), and heavier on other rifles at the show. The samson also required grind work on the FSB which Im opposed to. The Larue only comes in a 9/10/12, and I wanted the FSB model. As far as the FSB goes it closes and opens, and stays out of the way when needed.. with all the features of a stock FSB..



Im going to drop a 1000 rounds today I will update afterwards.



Thanks guys


Many of us don't like the owner, he's a Dick for sure. That's why you won't find much love for ARMS products here. Beside some questionable political contributions he has brought lawsuits against others in the industry including Mark LaRue over the number 17.  



I owned a few ARMS mounts that I sold to buy LaRue.



Just an explanation, nothing personal toward you or your AR.



 
10/20/2012 6:00:58 AM EDT
[#20]
Your uncle may be recommending ARMS because he either used it or heard it recommended some time ago by people in the military. DICK Swans' legal actions and politics aside their optics mounts don't have a great reputation for reliability and their forearms used to be pretty heavy and lagging behind the industry. ARMS is not something that many people use any more if they are paying for it out of their own pocket.



Lots of guys in the military don't really know this part from that part anymore than they can tell you "We used Acme radios" not whether that is the best/worst or whatever. Years ago I saw a Blackwater instructor who was retired Army and had been a contractor who did not know ARMS from LaRue; but the guy could shoot like a house afire. He just did not really give a shit beyond "This is an M-4 carbine." any more than I care what kind of processor is in the computer in my office.








I do like that front sight though and have to get around to installing mine.







Have fun shooting.

 
10/20/2012 8:53:15 AM EDT
[#21]



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Very nice. Looks like we're brothers in arms...lol

This is my first post, M4, and colt 6920 as well.

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l59/00s-dime00/DSC_0370.jpg

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l59/00s-dime00/DSC_0371.jpg




front sight is backwards


No it's not.  


Actually it is on backwards, but I have seen a lot of guys run them that way. Its easy to leave it folded down and deploy it with your support hand with a minimal change in hand position. It also seems to work better with a forward mounted light on the top rail.





 
10/20/2012 9:22:30 AM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Good start. I'd have kept the stock FSB personally though.

I have that arms unit, but have not installed it. It does seem like a good design.  


The sight looks real good and is a great idea.  Always thought they looked durable. Just prefer the pinned on FSB. But I'm sure it will be fine.

10/20/2012 9:39:22 AM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
Actually it is on backwards, but I have seen a lot of guys run them that way. Its easy to leave it folded down and deploy it with your support hand with a minimal change in hand position. It also seems to work better with a forward mounted light on the top rail.

 

And these are a few of the reasons why I have it mounted as such. Feels more intuitive this way.
10/20/2012 9:42:41 AM EDT
[#24]
Great setup, which version of that front folding sight did you go with?  

That layout should do very well for you, if you are going with the ARMS theme you may as well throw a 40L rear sight on there to go along with it.  Its a great rear sight, and I used one for years on my duty weapon.
10/20/2012 9:42:46 AM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
Very nice... The clean black look holds its own with the LE6920.. What type of muzzle break is that? Its awesome looking..


Thank you. The brake is a Spikes Tactical Dynacomp Extreme.
10/20/2012 10:01:51 AM EDT
[#26]
I really like your set up.  Great job.
10/20/2012 10:39:45 AM EDT
[#27]
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Very nice. Looks like we're brothers in arms...lol
This is my first post, M4, and colt 6920 as well.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l59/00s-dime00/DSC_0370.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l59/00s-dime00/DSC_0371.jpg


front sight is backwards

No it's not.  

Actually it is on backwards, but I have seen a lot of guys run them that way. Its easy to leave it folded down and deploy it with your support hand with a minimal change in hand position. It also seems to work better with a forward mounted light on the top rail.

 


Yeah, it would be really cool if Magpul would make a slight design change to the mold so that it didn't look odd when mounted "backwards". Just changing the shape of the sight portion so it looked the same regardless of release position would be awesome.

10/20/2012 12:40:21 PM EDT
[#28]
Very Nice!!
10/20/2012 12:43:47 PM EDT
[#29]
Its the B version ( I believe)..

Thanks for the heads up..
10/20/2012 12:52:09 PM EDT
[#30]
Oops Dick Swan is a dick!!



10/20/2012 1:02:19 PM EDT
[#31]
Question If you steal another companies patent, mass produce it, and loose the legal battle doesnt that make you a thief? Troy J.R of Troy Industries went to work for the guy just to steal he's patents ( bottom paragraph).. I would boycott Troy on that principle  alone.. As far as political contributions.. Im hearing from a cousin in Boston that he dumped a truck load of cash into Scott Browns campaign.. Guess he's trying to make up for it..lol..



Date: December 16, 2011

(West Bridgewater, MA) - The matter of Atlantic Research Marketing Systems, Inc. v Austin Precision Products, Inc. d/b/a LaRue Tactical, United States District Court for the District of Massachusetts, Civil Action No. 1:09-cv-10034(DPW), was settled and dismissed with prejudice. LaRue Tactical has taken a fully paid up, royalty free license under U.S. Trademark Registration Nos. 3,466,163 and 3,478,909.


Date: Monday, November 30, 2009

(West Bridgewater, MA)  - A.R.M.S. Inc., a designer of accessories and attachments for small arms weapons for 30 years, is pleased to announce that an amicable settlement has been reached with Magpul Industries Corp. concerning Magpul's MBUS plastic, folding rear sight. A.R.M.S. is the owner of U.S. Patent No. 7,356,962 for a low profile flip-up sight and the settlement resolves two federal court cases that concern A.R.M.S. claim of patent infringement. Magpul will resume distributing a modified MBUS folding rear sight that does not infringe the '962 patent. A.R.M.S. vigorously protects its valuable intellectual property rights and is pleased that a mutually agreeable settlement could be reached.

Date:
Friday, July 17, 2009
Title:A.R.M.S. Inc. wins Trade Secret and Breach of Fiduciary Duty Lawsuit against Stephen P. Troy, Jr. and Troy Industries, Inc..
Sub-title:Jury in United States District Court for the District of Massachusetts awards A.R.M.S., Inc. $1.8M in weapons accessory trial.

(West Bridgewater, MA)  - A federal court jury awarded  A.R.M.S. Inc., a designer of accessories and attachments for small arms weapons for 30 years,  in excess of $1.8 million in damages in a lawsuit alleging  theft of trade secrets and breach of fiduciary duty against Stephen P. Troy, Jr. and his company, Troy Industries, Inc., of Lee, MA.  In the lawsuit, originally filed on August 23, 2007, A.R.M.S. alleged that its former employee of seven months, Stephen Troy, who had held a position of trust and confidence with the company, had stolen A.R.M.S.'s trade secrets for a proprietary handguard system for use on M-4/M-16/AR-15 rifles and incorporated those trade secrets in a competing modular, free-float railed handguard system that attached to the barrel nut and that was being offered and sold by Troy Industries, commencing after he was fired from A.R.M.S..  On June 26, 2009, after a two-week trial in the Massachusetts Federal District Court, a nine member federal jury returned a verdict against Stephen P. Troy and Troy Industries, finding them liable for misappropriation of trade secrets and breach of fiduciary duty.  Richard Swan, the president of A.R.M.S.® Inc., said, "We are pleased that the jury upheld our trade secret rights and determined that our former employee and his company should not profit from the theft of our trade secrets."   Amongst others, witnesses for A.R.M.S. included two representatives of the U.S. military.  Other issues in the case remain pending before the Court.


Question.. Im curious as to the weight comparisons of all brands as far as rail systems goes. Now that would be a hell of a post..

Thanks Man..

10/20/2012 7:33:49 PM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:

Question.. Im curious as to the weight comparisons of all brands as far as rail systems goes. Now that would be a hell of a post..


Not all brands of rail systems (4 rail, modular, & integral) are here but the most popular are shown, also some rail covers.


Rail Systems Spreadsheet - link


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