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Posted: 10/8/2012 11:14:45 PM EDT
| I was wondering if any of you guys had problems with the 4 pound Timney trigger? Mine started to double and maybe triple at the range yesterday. It happened twice. I never had this problem with it before. The trigger came with my POF rifle but I sold the upper and kept their lower with the Timney trigger. I'm thinking that it never doubled with the POF upper because it had their muzzle break and it was heavy to begin with. When I used my Spikes upper with MOE handguards/FSP and A2 flash rider, it started to double. I guess I have to keep an eye on things and I'll be getting another trigger soon. |
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I was wondering if any of you guys had problems with the 4 pound Timney trigger? Mine started to double and maybe triple at the range yesterday. It happened twice. I never had this problem with it before. The trigger came with my POF rifle but I sold the upper and kept their lower with the Timney trigger. I'm thinking that it never doubled with the POF upper because it had their muzzle break and it was heavy to begin with. When I used my Spikes upper with MOE handguards/FSP it started to double. I guess I have to keep an eye on things and I'll be getting another trigger soon. I've heard about this happening, try contacting Timney and see what they say. |
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Are you sure you are not bumpfiring? It has been known to happen when people first transition to a light trigger Yes, it might be more of a non-intentional bump fire but I could be wrong. I've had this trigger in a POF lower and POF upper (complete rifle) since 2008. The POF upper had their muzzle break which made muzzle rise almost non-existant and I never had a problem with the trigger. I sold the POF upper a few months ago and used a new Spikes midlength upper with a standard A2 flash hider on my POF lower with the Timney trigger and it does have more muzzle rise than my POF upper. Maybe this is causing it to bump fire or is it just me? |
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I had one and it did more than double. I had to clean it with a degreaser. Seemed to work just fine after that.
I had the lower on a 5/7 upper and it would shoot just like a select fire weapon. Pull the trigger and it would fire till I let off. I do not understand the mechanics of this in any way whatsoever. I fixed it before I finished half the mag. I have also found this happens with high end light triggers, as well. No names mentioned because it was due to my installation. Scary, you think you know what you are doing and the next thing you know you are in front of LE trying to explain you should have had a gunsmith do the work. Learned my lesson(s). |
| I had a 3# Timney about 4-5 years ago in one of my AR's. Great trigger. Shooting off-hand, no problem. But off a bench, it would double and some times triple. I tried messing with the adjustment screws but that didn't do much good. So, I contacted Timney, sent it in, and they sent me a new one. No problems with that one after several thousand rounds and it's still in one of my AR's. Apparently, from what I was told, Timney had a bit of an issue with these triggers when they first came out (you have one of the early models if you've had it since 2008), but have since addressed the problem. Contact Timney, get a hold of 'T-Bone', and you'll be taken care of in short order! |
| Thanks guys. For the meantime, I ordered a Spikes NiB Battle Trigger until I talk to someone at Timney. I just need something reliable for now. On another note, does a Geissele SSA trigger have doubling or tripling problems or just too easy to accidentally bump fire? |
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I had one for an ar10. i cant recall it it ever doubled at the bench but it would caise a UD so.etimes when i would drop the bolt on a fresh mag or when disengaging the safety!
It did this when new. They sent a new one that worked right. Vuess cnc isnt all its cracked up to be. |
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Great, now you tell me...
I just got my Timney 3 lb. trigger this week and am going to try it out tomorrow morning. In fact, I signed onto ARFCOM tonight to gloat over how light and crisp the trigger is and to share my joy and anticipation. Buzzkill. No, seriously, this seems like one amazing trigger but I have not shot it yet, and I'm hoping Timney has it sorted out. If I have trouble with it I'm never going the hear the end of it from my buddies who told me to go with a Geissele. I liked the drop-in construction of the Timney and read good things about it. Geissele is manufactured locally (20 minuted from my home) so I even thought about taking a drive out there to see their operation. Found a great deal on the Timney on eBay ($176 shipped) so that pretty much sealed the deal. I'll report back tomorrow if I'm not dragged away in handcuffs by the local Game Warden for discharging an automatic weapon. Joe |
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I was wondering if any of you guys had problems with the 4 pound Timney trigger? Mine started to double and maybe triple at the range yesterday. It happened twice. I never had this problem with it before. The trigger came with my POF rifle but I sold the upper and kept their lower with the Timney trigger. I'm thinking that it never doubled with the POF upper because it had their muzzle break and it was heavy to begin with. When I used my Spikes upper with MOE handguards/FSP and A2 flash rider, it started to double. I guess I have to keep an eye on things and I'll be getting another trigger soon. I had this happen to me twice. My first timney trigger was the older style with out the little nut. Sent it back to Timney and the sent me the new style with the nut(this one will not work loss). Now after a while the newer one started doing the same then(it would go into full auto mode). Called timney and the first thing he ask me was I lubing the trigger. Well my answer was yes and no. Yes I was using SLIP 2000 on the trigger(by the way oil on these trggers is a NO NO). I also coat my bolt carrier group heavy with SLIP 2000 and that was dripping down onto my trigger. Took the trigger out-cleaned it with GUN SCRUBBER and cut way back on my lube on the bolt carrier and have not had a problem since. I have them in all my AR's and in the lower that I'm selling on this forum. I have shown a picture of the newer Timney trigger with the little nut. These are very good triggers just keep them dry. Call Timney they will make it right. 
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Ok. So two people here just confirmed it to me that Timney's triggers shouldn't be lubed. Uhhh...that doesn't sound too good to me. Just a refresher, I had complete POF rifle and the Timney trigger came with it as part of the package. I would usually put a very light coat of oil on the BCG and internals of the POF upper. No problems because there's not that much oil to begin with to drip on to the trigger group and it's a gas piston system so it doesn't need as much lube as a D.I. gas system.
I since then sold the POF upper but kept their lower with the Timney trigger. I got a new D.I. upper (Spikes) and lubed it more than usual compared to the POF upper because I wanted to break her in. So I guess the more than usual oiled-up upper and the gas system design caused the oil to work its way in the trigger. I never heard about the "No lube in your Timney trigger" issue before until now. Oh well, maybe it's time to move on and sell this trigger and upgrade to a Geissele. |
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Ok. So two people here just confirmed it to me that Timney's triggers shouldn't be lubed. Uhhh...that doesn't sound too good to me. Just a refresher, I had complete POF rifle and the Timney trigger came with it as part of the package. I would usually put a very light coat of oil on the BCG and internals of the POF upper. No problems because there's not that much oil to begin with to drip on to the trigger group and it's a gas piston system so it doesn't need as much lube as a D.I. gas system. I since then sold the POF upper but kept their lower with the Timney trigger. I got a new D.I. upper (Spikes) and lubed it more than usual compared to the POF upper because I wanted to break her in. So I guess the more than usual oiled-up upper and the gas system design caused the oil to work its way in the trigger. I never heard about the "No lube in your Timney trigger" issue before until now. Oh well, maybe it's time to move on and sell this trigger and upgrade to a Geissele. All of my Geisseles came with lube and reliably fire one shot per pull of the trigger. I have a few thousand rounds on my SD3G and it seems to just get better. I have maybe 800 rounds on my Hi-Speed and it has been great. So great that I never adjusted it because I didn't think it could get much better. I got bored and decided to give it a whirl. Followed the directions to the T and.... wahlah.... an excellent trigger became even more excellent. The SD3G is still my favorite because of the ability to fire insanely fast strings, but the Hi-Speed is amazing for precision shooting, especially after adjustment. |
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My new Timney 3 lb. trigger worked well at the range today.
It takes some getting used to if one is accustomed to at best a polished Mil-Spec AR trigger. I have an FNAR that has a relly nice stock trigger, smooth, 4.5 lb pull, breaks like a carrot. The Timney is lighter and has 1/2 the travel plus it beaks like glass. Since it is new and I don't know much about it, I had wondered if it needed lube (since the included instruction do not say) but this thread has cleared that up. Adding to the confusion today, some of the ammo I fired used a new propellant (CFE223) that I wanted to try. I actually worked okay but the best results I've had so far have 77 gr SMKs propelled by 23.5 gr Ramshot TAC and as usual that recipe did not disappoint, although I ran out of time at the end and did not shoot any 10 round groups. I really like the Timney so far. *edit* the red squares are 1" for reference. 
Joe |
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I have no issues with my 3# skeletonized Timney. Every so often (very few and far between) I'll put a small drop of Tetra lube where the hammer and trigger sear contact, but that's it. Zero creep/travel, breaks like frozen peanut brittle.
100 yards. 55 gr V-Max. 
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Did you tighten the 2 "hex set screws" and put the 2 extra screws on top of them after tighten them down? If you don't you will have a wobbly trigger housing causing some play that will bump fire. I have Timneys on all my ar15 one with over 12k rounds all without problems.
The trigger housing for my 4lb Skleletonized trigger(12k rounds) I've put some nail polish to the set screws to prevent it them from walking out. 
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