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Posted: 3/17/2012 10:30:09 AM EDT
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I am finalizing the details on a Recce upper and was pretty sure I wanted to put an AAC Blackout FH on it as opposed to the Ops In Brake/Collar that the builder normally uses.
I was doing this to save funds and because I dont intend to suppress it with an Ops Inc can, and likely wont suppress it at all. From my experience and research, the Blackout is very effective at hiding muzzle flash, but does nothing as far as braking. The more I think about it, the more I am wondering if the Blackout is the best route. Just curious as to what other MD's I should consider. The goal of this build is versatility, which is why I am going the Recce route. I want compact and as light as I can get, thus the 16" build. But I also want precision and accuracy as far as is reasonable. So, I think the Recce option is the best route. Just wondering if I should be focused more on braking than flash suppression. The Blackout is also much cheaper than the Opc Inc collar/brake, and this will allow me to get an optic more quickly by saving me more than $100. Thoughts? |
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I agree. I dont want to waste money that could be used to get an optic quicker.
Just want to put what makes most sense on there. Was thinking plain old blackout, but then thought it would be nice to stay on target through impact, and a Battlecomp came to mind, as I have heard great things. But it would be loud as hell if ever forced to fire indoors. That is not likely and would hate to build based solely on being too loud if I were forced to fire inside. So, that is why a brake became a thought. When on the bench, shooting steel at 500 or more, it is nice to see impact. Just a thought. |
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It's 5.56 you don't need a break. If you're not going to suppress it, don't put a $100 bill on the end of the rifle for no reason. Get a vortex flash suppressor, they work extremely well and are $30.00. Hell if I have one at home I'll mail it to you free. I disagree. Its hard to beat (yet doable) the advantage a break gives you when rapid fire control and quick follow ups are what matters to you. Competition guys use breaks for a reason. If you want to break off lots of shots on target as quick as possible...get a break. Battle comp/ AAC breakout or muzzle break/ dynacomp etc. They sell them for a reason. It isn't just for looks..it works. |
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I am finalizing the details on a Recce upper and was pretty sure I wanted to put an AAC Blackout FH on it as opposed to the Ops In Brake/Collar that the builder normally uses. I was doing this to save funds and because I dont intend to suppress it with an Ops Inc can, and likely wont suppress it at all. From my experience and research, the Blackout is very effective at hiding muzzle flash, but does nothing as far as braking. The more I think about it, the more I am wondering if the Blackout is the best route. Just curious as to what other MD's I should consider. The goal of this build is versatility, which is why I am going the Recce route. I want compact and as light as I can get, thus the 16" build. But I also want precision and accuracy as far as is reasonable. So, I think the Recce option is the best route. Just wondering if I should be focused more on braking than flash suppression. The Blackout is also much cheaper than the Opc Inc collar/brake, and this will allow me to get an optic more quickly by saving me more than $100. Thoughts? If you plan on suppressing it ever...then flash suppression shouldn't be an issue because you can just throw the can on there. I'm all for a break either way |
An A2 would be the most correct I think. Cheap too. Brakes on 5.56 semiauto guns? Really? Is this a race gun, with low mass internals and gassed at the bleeding edge for competition? No, its a combat weapon. You dont need a brake (maybe you DO need a break though ).
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I am finalizing the details on a Recce upper and was pretty sure I wanted to put an AAC Blackout FH on it as opposed to the Ops In Brake/Collar that the builder normally uses. I was doing this to save funds and because I dont intend to suppress it with an Ops Inc can, and likely wont suppress it at all. From my experience and research, the Blackout is very effective at hiding muzzle flash, but does nothing as far as braking. The more I think about it, the more I am wondering if the Blackout is the best route. Just curious as to what other MD's I should consider. The goal of this build is versatility, which is why I am going the Recce route. I want compact and as light as I can get, thus the 16" build. But I also want precision and accuracy as far as is reasonable. So, I think the Recce option is the best route. Just wondering if I should be focused more on braking than flash suppression. The Blackout is also much cheaper than the Opc Inc collar/brake, and this will allow me to get an optic more quickly by saving me more than $100. Thoughts? If you plan on suppressing it ever...then flash suppression shouldn't be an issue because you can just throw the can on there. I'm all for a break either way Thats just it. The last several builds I have had, I always planned for a suppressor but never went through with it. I doubt I will ever put a can on this, so I am wanting to build it for what I will use it for. An all purpose, versatile AR that can be used for HD/SHTF as well as (and most time on) using it for precision. My range goes to 650 or so, and most of my shooting time is spent between 300 and 500. I am going to end up with a 2.5-10 on it most likely. I can see a lot of utility in a good break, |
| If weight's a primary concern, one very effective and amazingly tiny option is the AAC "Hollister" NSM. It adds virtually no additional length or weight to the barrel and really surprised me with its effectiveness for its size. Its one loud little bugger though, but I guess that means its working! |
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I am still struggling with this.
I am leaning toward just having him screw on a bird cage and keep the Ops Inc collar and brake and then figuring out what to put on later. He will only be subtracting $130 from the price if he keeps the Ops Inc. I think they are worth about $190, though. So, it may make more sense to buy the Ops Inc for the extra $130 and then resell it. And maybe buy the Surefire 556K 
Dont know, but one way or the other, I am placing my order before the day is out tomorrow. |
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Quoted: An A2 would be the most correct I think. Cheap too. Brakes on 5.56 semiauto guns? Really? Is this a race gun, with low mass internals and gassed at the bleeding edge for competition? No, its a combat weapon. You dont need a brake (maybe you DO need a break though ).I believe that they are a viable accessory for combat. Quicker follow up shots and maintaining sight picture on target is a powerful advantage in my opinion. I would recommend the Battlecomp if you plan to not mount a can. The flash is about the same as an A2 and in my experience they can subjectively be used indoors without blowing everyone's ears out. The Battlecomp also isn't long like many other brakes. I also like the Surefire MB556K. I have one pinned on a 14.5 build and I'm well pleased. I would of bought a Battlecomp 1.5, but I plan to buy a Surefire FA556-212 eventually. The only con in my experiance is that the MB556K makes a big fireball with M855. The concussion is only a bit worse than the Battlecomp in my opinion, but it still beats many open dual port brakes. As for flash hiders I think they should only be used on SBR builds and on precision rifles when stealth is a major factor. |
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Meh. I'd go Blackout or Brakeout (half brake half blackout). There's still some flash with the Brakeout but you get the benefits of a brake. If it's for HD purposes then you'll prob want less flash, hence Blackout. I went with te PWS FSC for this reason. They make them with can mounts also if your gonna run suppressed. Mine accepts my YHM Phantom. If I had it to do over again I would get an AAC can and the brakeout |
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