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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Logo Mania (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 3/6/2012 6:43:27 AM EDT
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I’m sure many will disagree with my opinion on this, but that’s ok. I know I’m not forced to buy these products. As a matter of fact, I own and like most of the products I’m complaining about. I guess this is more of a suggestion to manufactures than it is a mini- rant.
I first noticed this when S&W started putting the large white “MP” on their AR mag well. Lately, I’ve noticed a trend where every little part seems to need a logo. I realize parts need to be branded. It’s primarily these oversized white logos I’m talking about. Maybe it’s because they just seem to stand out more on a black rifle. I completely understand the marketing and brand building aspect of this. I also understand the pride in ownership of certain brands on the consumer side. I just wish some manufactures would tone it down a bit. I can understand these brand logos all over a heavily sponsored race gun. I just don’t want them all over my everyday defensive or sporting firearm. It’s a weapon, not a Nascar. Thanks for listening. |
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I’m sure many will disagree with my opinion on this, but that’s ok. I know I’m not forced to buy these products. As a matter of fact, I own and like most of the products I’m complaining about. I guess this is more of a suggestion to manufactures than it is a mini- rant. I first noticed this when S&W started putting the large white “MP” on their AR mag well. Lately, I’ve noticed a trend where every little part seems to need a logo. I realize parts need to be branded. It’s primarily these oversized white logos I’m talking about. Maybe it’s because they just seem to stand out more on a black rifle. I completely understand the marketing and brand building aspect of this. I also understand the pride in ownership of certain brands on the consumer side. I just wish some manufactures would tone it down a bit. I can understand these brand logos all over a heavily sponsored race gun. I just don’t want them all over my everyday defensive or sporting firearm. It’s a weapon, not a Nascar. Thanks for listening. Nascar racers are getting paid for it, you are not. |
| Yeah the big MP is unattractive. I saw a Palmetto Armory upper that had a logo on the bolt carrier and upper receiver and it looked okay, kind of a cool looking logo. My LMT has a small 'LMT' on the side of the receiver. I would guess computer operated laser engravers have come down in price. |
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I’m sure many will disagree with my opinion on this, but that’s ok. I know I’m not forced to buy these products. As a matter of fact, I own and like most of the products I’m complaining about. I guess this is more of a suggestion to manufactures than it is a mini- rant. I first noticed this when S&W started putting the large white “MP” on their AR mag well. Lately, I’ve noticed a trend where every little part seems to need a logo. I realize parts need to be branded. It’s primarily these oversized white logos I’m talking about. Maybe it’s because they just seem to stand out more on a black rifle. I completely understand the marketing and brand building aspect of this. I also understand the pride in ownership of certain brands on the consumer side. I just wish some manufactures would tone it down a bit. I can understand these brand logos all over a heavily sponsored race gun. I just don’t want them all over my everyday defensive or sporting firearm. It’s a weapon, not a Nascar. Thanks for listening. Nascar racers are getting paid for it, you are not. Thank you. That's my point. |
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I agree in many ways. It's gotten a little out of sight, but I understand the reasoning behind it. In any case, if ya don't like it, you can always rattle can your rifle! Fortunately, it doesn't bother me that bad. I think hitting the white letters with a black Sharpie will be enough. I don't get why some manufactures don't use black logos. I think it would look better and more subdued. |
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I’m sure many will disagree with my opinion on this, but that’s ok. I know I’m not forced to buy these products. As a matter of fact, I own and like most of the products I’m complaining about. I guess this is more of a suggestion to manufactures than it is a mini- rant. I first noticed this when S&W started putting the large white “MP” on their AR mag well. Lately, I’ve noticed a trend where every little part seems to need a logo. I realize parts need to be branded. It’s primarily these oversized white logos I’m talking about. Maybe it’s because they just seem to stand out more on a black rifle. I completely understand the marketing and brand building aspect of this. I also understand the pride in ownership of certain brands on the consumer side. I just wish some manufactures would tone it down a bit. I can understand these brand logos all over a heavily sponsored race gun. I just don’t want them all over my everyday defensive or sporting firearm. It’s a weapon, not a Nascar. Thanks for listening. Nascar racers are getting paid for it, you are not. Thank you. That's my point. That's why I paint over unattractive white logos on mine rifles with black BC paint markers. I'm the same way when i buy vehicles. I refuse to take the vehicle off the lot if their little dealership sticker is still on it. I paid them, they didn't pay me. |
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I’m sure many will disagree with my opinion on this, but that’s ok. I know I’m not forced to buy these products. As a matter of fact, I own and like most of the products I’m complaining about. I guess this is more of a suggestion to manufactures than it is a mini- rant. I first noticed this when S&W started putting the large white “MP” on their AR mag well. Lately, I’ve noticed a trend where every little part seems to need a logo. I realize parts need to be branded. It’s primarily these oversized white logos I’m talking about. Maybe it’s because they just seem to stand out more on a black rifle. I completely understand the marketing and brand building aspect of this. I also understand the pride in ownership of certain brands on the consumer side. I just wish some manufactures would tone it down a bit. I can understand these brand logos all over a heavily sponsored race gun. I just don’t want them all over my everyday defensive or sporting firearm. It’s a weapon, not a Nascar. Thanks for listening. Nascar racers are getting paid for it, you are not. Thank you. That's my point. That's why I paint over unattractive white logos on mine rifles with black BC paint markers. I'm the same way when i buy vehicles. I refuse to take the vehicle off the lot if their little dealership sticker is still on it. I paid them, they didn't pay me. I'm glad I'm not the only one who does that. 
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I’m sure many will disagree with my opinion on this, but that’s ok. I know I’m not forced to buy these products. As a matter of fact, I own and like most of the products I’m complaining about. I guess this is more of a suggestion to manufactures than it is a mini- rant. I first noticed this when S&W started putting the large white “MP” on their AR mag well. Lately, I’ve noticed a trend where every little part seems to need a logo. I realize parts need to be branded. It’s primarily these oversized white logos I’m talking about. Maybe it’s because they just seem to stand out more on a black rifle. I completely understand the marketing and brand building aspect of this. I also understand the pride in ownership of certain brands on the consumer side. I just wish some manufactures would tone it down a bit. I can understand these brand logos all over a heavily sponsored race gun. I just don’t want them all over my everyday defensive or sporting firearm. It’s a weapon, not a Nascar. Thanks for listening. Nascar racers are getting paid for it, you are not. Thank you. That's my point. That's why I paint over unattractive white logos on mine rifles with black BC paint markers. I'm the same way when i buy vehicles. I refuse to take the vehicle off the lot if their little dealership sticker is still on it. I paid them, they didn't pay me. Glad to see I'm not the only one that feels this way. Back on topic, I would much rather see no roll-mark if possible on lowers. Seems like Nodak is the only one that offers that. |
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Not a big fan of any logos a different color than the gun or clothing for that matter.
All parts should be marked to identify manufacturer and production run but preferably in a discreet location. The only logo i have anywhere on my gun is on my lower it's stamped in and still black but i still think it's too big and gaudy especially since its by no means a noveske or anything else that i want to say hey i spent some money on this and even if i did spend some money on it i wouldn't want to advertise it so others can think i'm a prick and steal it. |
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I’m sure many will disagree with my opinion on this, but that’s ok. I know I’m not forced to buy these products. As a matter of fact, I own and like most of the products I’m complaining about. I guess this is more of a suggestion to manufactures than it is a mini- rant. I first noticed this when S&W started putting the large white “MP” on their AR mag well. Lately, I’ve noticed a trend where every little part seems to need a logo. I realize parts need to be branded. It’s primarily these oversized white logos I’m talking about. Maybe it’s because they just seem to stand out more on a black rifle. I completely understand the marketing and brand building aspect of this. I also understand the pride in ownership of certain brands on the consumer side. I just wish some manufactures would tone it down a bit. I can understand these brand logos all over a heavily sponsored race gun. I just don’t want them all over my everyday defensive or sporting firearm. It’s a weapon, not a Nascar. Thanks for listening. Nascar racers are getting paid for it, you are not. Thank you. That's my point. That's why I paint over unattractive white logos on mine rifles with black BC paint markers. I'm the same way when i buy vehicles. I refuse to take the vehicle off the lot if their little dealership sticker is still on it. I paid them, they didn't pay me. I'm glad I'm not the only one who does that.
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I actually did not buy the PSA upper I wanted because it had the logo on the upper. I bought a CMMG one instead.
I even do not understand why I got one of my Spikes lowers painted. Everyone after that one I have got just black and wish I had not got the painted one. I do not like logos I like my rifles like I like my tea and coffee. |
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So what's the premium we pay for custom hardware when you could have used off-the-shelf Torx screws? 
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Starting in mid Feb., four of these Grade 8 screws (two installed, two spare ), and a selector detent spring are included in all selectors, the price hasn't gone up yet, but there will be an adjustment in a few months
We used off the shelve screws, the consistency wasn't great and they are not rated. The Grade 8 screws are stronger, so gone are the two types of screws we had to use for the M16 and AR15 (semi auto) selectors, the new screws work on both
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I’m sure many will disagree with my opinion on this, but that’s ok. I know I’m not forced to buy these products. As a matter of fact, I own and like most of the products I’m complaining about. I guess this is more of a suggestion to manufactures than it is a mini- rant. I first noticed this when S&W started putting the large white “MP” on their AR mag well. Lately, I’ve noticed a trend where every little part seems to need a logo. I realize parts need to be branded. It’s primarily these oversized white logos I’m talking about. Maybe it’s because they just seem to stand out more on a black rifle. I completely understand the marketing and brand building aspect of this. I also understand the pride in ownership of certain brands on the consumer side. I just wish some manufactures would tone it down a bit. I can understand these brand logos all over a heavily sponsored race gun. I just don’t want them all over my everyday defensive or sporting firearm. It’s a weapon, not a Nascar. Thanks for listening. Nascar racers are getting paid for it, you are not. Thank you. That's my point. That's why I paint over unattractive white logos on mine rifles with black BC paint markers. I'm the same way when i buy vehicles. I refuse to take the vehicle off the lot if their little dealership sticker is still on it. I paid them, they didn't pay me. I'm glad I'm not the only one who does that.
Hahaha..Ditto..They look at me crazy when I ask them to remove their logo and plate protector.. |
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Ever stop to think that these companies are responding to the customers? All day long people post on this site, and other sites, about how you have to have a certain brand or your rifle is useless? If you don't have BCM, COLT, DD, LMT, etc....your rifle is junk.
How many threads have you read or even posted regarding the make of a certain part? I've witnessed threads go on for days about people disputing the possible make of a BCG. Well, now you don't have to guess, it's stamped right on the part. Now when you post pictures of your beautiful new rifle, everyone will know what elite operator brand you bought. It's what you wanted....right? |
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I’m sure many will disagree with my opinion on this, but that’s ok. I know I’m not forced to buy these products. As a matter of fact, I own and like most of the products I’m complaining about. I guess this is more of a suggestion to manufactures than it is a mini- rant. I first noticed this when S&W started putting the large white “MP” on their AR mag well. Lately, I’ve noticed a trend where every little part seems to need a logo. I realize parts need to be branded. It’s primarily these oversized white logos I’m talking about. Maybe it’s because they just seem to stand out more on a black rifle. I completely understand the marketing and brand building aspect of this. I also understand the pride in ownership of certain brands on the consumer side. I just wish some manufactures would tone it down a bit. I can understand these brand logos all over a heavily sponsored race gun. I just don’t want them all over my everyday defensive or sporting firearm. It’s a weapon, not a Nascar. Thanks for listening. Nascar racers are getting paid for it, you are not. Thank you. That's my point. That's why I paint over unattractive white logos on mine rifles with black BC paint markers. I'm the same way when i buy vehicles. I refuse to take the vehicle off the lot if their little dealership sticker is still on it. I paid them, they didn't pay me. I'm glad I'm not the only one who does that.
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Ever stop to think that these companies are responding to the customers? All day long people post on this site, and other sites, about how you have to have a certain brand or your rifle is useless? If you don't have BCM, COLT, DD, LMT, etc....your rifle is junk. How many threads have you read or even posted regarding the make of a certain part? I've witnessed threads go on for days about people disputing the possible make of a BCG. Well, now you don't have to guess, it's stamped right on the part. Now when you post pictures of your beautiful new rifle, everyone will know what elite operator brand you bought. It's what you wanted....right? It's not what I wanted. I don't need a certain brand of weapon to be cool like the big kids. I just want one that works without looking like a company billboard. If they want me to advertise for them, they should send me a free hat or T-shirt.
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I hate the white logo craze, a perfect example is this LMT. If I am going to spend north of $2,000 on your product I do not need to advertise for you as well. Trouble is I am interested in the LMT ans see some with it and some without. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v651/PhotoTWB/AR-15%20website%20help%20images/LM308MWSF.jpg The actual rifle doesn't have it, at least my MWS doesn't. I've only seen it on the advertising pictures. |
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Big white logos (like the MP) logo are awful. I think S&W may be getting away from that but i'm not sure, I saw the 'magpul' S&W doesn't have that anymore.
Other than that, a few small logo's or a tasteful mark (Noveske Gen II rollmark) are OK for me but nothing more. |
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I hate the white logo craze, a perfect example is this LMT. If I am going to spend north of $2,000 on your product I do not need to advertise for you as well. Trouble is I am interested in the LMT ans see some with it and some without. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v651/PhotoTWB/AR-15%20website%20help%20images/LM308MWSF.jpg The actual rifle doesn't have it, at least my MWS doesn't. I've only seen it on the advertising pictures. +1 |
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I am a huge spikes fan, what impresses me is that yes they put thier logo on all there parts, however They are small and most of the time hidden. I kinda like rolling my rifle around and finding the little spider everywhere. The logo on the upper is under the BUIS, on the bottom of the billet trigger guard, on the face of the buffer, lightly shows up in the nib BCG, very small use as the letter 1 on the stock position indicator number. Subtle ... But there.
Personally I think the giant BCM logo on the side of the upper is horrible. Then they added the star! |
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I am a huge spikes fan, what impresses me is that yes they put their logo on all there parts, however They are small and most of the time hidden. I kinda like rolling my rifle around and finding the little spider everywhere. The logo on the upper is under the BUIS, on the bottom of the billet trigger guard, on the face of the buffer, lightly shows up in the nib BCG, very small use as the letter 1 on the stock position indicator number. Subtle ... But there. Personally I think the giant BCM logo on the side of the upper is horrible. Then they added the star! Not to mention the "BFH". Enough with the prominently displayed white logos. Please keep our black rifles black. |
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I’m sure many will disagree with my opinion on this, but that’s ok. I know I’m not forced to buy these products. As a matter of fact, I own and like most of the products I’m complaining about. I guess this is more of a suggestion to manufactures than it is a mini- rant. I first noticed this when S&W started putting the large white “MP” on their AR mag well. Lately, I’ve noticed a trend where every little part seems to need a logo. I realize parts need to be branded. It’s primarily these oversized white logos I’m talking about. Maybe it’s because they just seem to stand out more on a black rifle. I completely understand the marketing and brand building aspect of this. I also understand the pride in ownership of certain brands on the consumer side. I just wish some manufactures would tone it down a bit. I can understand these brand logos all over a heavily sponsored race gun. I just don’t want them all over my everyday defensive or sporting firearm. It’s a weapon, not a Nascar. Thanks for listening. its needed these days, it differentiates the good from the bad |
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Starting in mid Feb., four of these Grade 8 screws (two installed, two spare ), and a selector detent spring are included in all selectors, the price hasn't gone up yet, but there will be an adjustment in a few months
We used off the shelve screws, the consistency wasn't great and they are not rated. The Grade 8 screws are stronger, so gone are the two types of screws we had to use for the M16 and AR15 (semi auto) selectors, the new screws work on both Fucking A Duffy. On point as always |
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Please keep our black rifles black grey. fixed it for ya
all I can say is NDS is the bees knees. Yeah... the spiders, snakes, and MP's are tacky. but 90% of people have to ID ar15 like rifles by the mfg as the sole difference. Its like getting barrel specs when you didnt ask.. Some questions I cannot answer. Got me in trouble once, but its not my fault when none of the mulitple choices are correct so I thought. Whats the best ar15.... Cant answer that other than pointing at of of mine. |
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It's a huge turn off for me. It's actually kind of sickening that we supported this crap to the point where we are now. Everyone wanted to have that brand recognition for their rifle. People wanted stupid shit like Pirate lowers. Branding of BCGs became a preferable thing. Folks were paying premiums for Larue and Noveske branded sights on the EE. Now everyone puts their name on every little part. And people wanted it that way. We're doomed to stock car rifles from here till eternity. It's enough to make a man go retro! |
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I hate the white logo craze, a perfect example is this LMT. If I am going to spend north of $2,000 on your product I do not need to advertise for you as well. Trouble is I am interested in the LMT ans see some with it and some without. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v651/PhotoTWB/AR-15%20website%20help%20images/LM308MWSF.jpg Those are just the promo LMT guns that have that big whilte LMT logo on the lower receiver. No production LMT has that big white logo on the right hand side of the lower.. |
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I think the giant BCM logo on the side of the upper is horrible. Then they added the star!
Not to mention the "BFH". Enough with the prominently displayed white logos. Please keep our black rifles black. Thats funny. Kinda like a PSA saying. You know, like "Only you can prevent forest fires" . In this case: Only you can prevent Big Ugly White Logos. |
| Very true my feelings exactly but I am very old school. I like the Vietnam era look not the Swiss Army knife look. Being relatively new to AR's and coming from an AK background, where the closest you come to a logo is the arsenal mark. I just don't get the logo envy. But to each their own. |
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Page 2 says that Colt/FN has the best ID system. Stampings on the actual parts This. There are plenty of ways to make sure that components you manufacture are distinguishable without laser engraving advertisements on them. No one is unsure whether a Colt part is a Colt part if they know what they're looking for. It's relatively difficult to "fake" properly stamped or rollmarked (or especially raised) markings. ~Augee |
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Agreed, the huge M&P logo is over the top, but when they're selling complete AR's for just over $600 it's not going to be a deal breaker. BCM took some heat for laser engraving their BCG's, but with so many jokers sending in non-BCM BCG's for warranty replacement, something had to be done.
I prefer the subtle way to brand your parts and protect your customers from knock-offs. In some cases, no logo is needed at all. |
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I don't mind SOME of the markings I see, but some are a little too much.
What I always wonder is if the price of AR parts would drop at all if they didn't feel the need to put a damn logo on every part. I would imagine the price should if they did away with the logos, but I could be wrong. |
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