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Posted: 2/1/2012 8:28:31 PM EDT
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I am trying to get educated on AR since my gun experience has been limited to my WW11 collection. Could somebody explain to me why this rifle would be priced around $ 1400? Promag single point sling reciever plate adaptor - Magpul enhanced trigger guard - Magpul MIAD grip with battery storage You are looking at a brand new never fired Custom Spikes Tactical AR-15 in .223 / 5.56mm. This package is completely set up!!! This gun is available in Magpul Dark Earth (shown), OD Green or Black. UTG Digital Camo soft case with mag storage!!! Don't wait this won't last long!! Here is a list of all the parts installed on this rifle - - Spikes Tactical Lower Reciever With Bullet Color fill, Spider White Color Fill and Engraved American Flag on magwell Spikes Tactical Fake Can CAR1 engraved with white Spider and Text - M4 sytle barrel with M203 cutout, 1:9 twist chromoly barrel, A3 upper reciever with M4 feed ramps, bolt carrier group - YHM low pro gas block - VLTOR CASV-M free float modular handguard complete with picitinny rails that are removable. - VLTOR front flip up sight - - Magpul MOE 6-position carbine length buttstock - Magpul AFG angled foregip - Magpul 30rd PMAG with capacity window - Magpul Enhanced Floor Plate for Mag - UTG 4.2" ITA Red/Green Dot Sight with 2 QD Mounts and Flip-open Lens Cap. This gun can also be equiped with a Aimpoint Comp ML2 or and EOtech 512 if desired. |
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From your description, this looks like another auction for the exact same gun, and he's asking for a starting bid of $1,975. Not worth it.
http://www.gunauction.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=10489525 
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More like a $900 rifle, maybe 1100 if I am feeling really heavy in the wallet. With the specs listed, I'm not feeling that the upper is Spike's factory, therefore I believe its a parts gun. Considering the parts manufacturers aren't listed, I'm thinking more around $700. But I wouldn't be interested either way. |
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Quoted: Quoted: More like a $900 rifle, maybe 1100 if I am feeling really heavy in the wallet. With the specs listed, I'm not feeling that the upper is Spike's factory, therefore I believe its a parts gun. Considering the parts manufacturers aren't listed, I'm thinking more around $700. But I wouldn't be interested either way. I'm sorry ... you have to knock $ 100 of the price for the fake "suppressor". Bad choices need to have consequences. $ 600 .... Tops .... and the seller has to throw in pictures of an outrageously hot blond firing it. |
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Most everything else on there is mid-grade, and some of it much less(UTG optic), the barrel is very basic and the furniture(while I like almost everything Magpul does) is not expensive. I'll say $700, and that's only because of the end-plate, CASV-M and MIAD, and a couple extras. Rifle only w/no AFG, PMAG or other stuff =$650
Dude is hoping for someone uneducated enough to make a Herpa Derp of this magnitude.  Saddly, while it might take a few auctions, he'll probably find someone... and then they'll come here and feel like a GIANT LOSER.
$1400, though?... I could spend another $100 and get a LaRue PredatAR. Some people's kids... 
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The gun market has certain paralels to the car market.
Think of some 23 year old (liveing in his parents basement) buying a $3500 crapmobile and dressing it up with wheels , tires , sound system , tinted windows, suspension add ons and a crazy exaust system. When the kid trys to sell it he adds up every penny he ever spent on it (at local retail) and then he has an absolute hissy when somebody tells him his shitbox isn't worth $3000. Everyones idea of the perfect gun is going to be different , the more aftermarket parts you slap on one the less likely you are of haveing someone wanting that particular combination of "stuff" |
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The gun market has certain paralels to the car market. Think of some 23 year old (liveing in his parents basement) buying a $3500 crapmobile and dressing it up with wheels , tires , sound system , tinted windows, suspension add ons and a crazy exaust system. When the kid trys to sell it he adds up every penny he ever spent on it (at local retail) and then he has an absolute hissy when somebody tells him his shitbox isn't worth $3000. Everyones idea of the perfect gun is going to be different , the more aftermarket parts you slap on one the less likely you are of haveing someone wanting that particular combination of "stuff" This is definitely true but i feel is you start with a good base gun and use quality accessories it is more likely to hold its value. If someone does not want those particular accessories then you can always take them off and resell them by themselves as high quality parts are always in demand. |
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Lets put this gun in perspective...he is asking 1400 dollars for this...thing. Prices are off the top of my head:
CASV-E: 289 Magpul stuff: 85-100 no name barrel...it aint spikes: 150-200 spikes lower: 120 LPK: 80 no name Bolt: 100 no name Upper: 100 misc internals: 75 UTG optic: priceless So based on Gun Store shelf prices, this may be a 1000 dollar rifle...assuming he got no dealer discounts, etc. So based on this, what can you get for 1400 dollars? -a LaRue PredatAR -an actual Spikes Rifle with alot of goodies -A Bravo Company Rifle -etc. Bottom Line: 1400 Dollars can buy you some of the best Rifles on the market that come with some of the best customer support out there. Do not waste it on something that got pieced together by someone who is trying to pull a fast one. |
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If you go to the gunauction link above and look at the rest of the pictures....the brass deflector has brass all over it lol.....so when it says new and unfired in the description you are certainly getting a lie right there.
But I'm not sure if thats the actual gun you are getting....either way the amount of money that guy wants....I'd rather believe my above statement about this deusche 
I wouldnt pay anything for that rifle. He'd have to give it to me for free and throw in a pistol of some type. |
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Quoted: I'm sorry but I didn't pose the question to you so you're right, you are guessing.
Quoted:What is your goal in learning how to value ARs?
So that when he sees a deal thats too good to pass up, he'll know it when he sees it and not miss out on it  Just my guess.I asked the question because of an earlier post the OP made. |
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Hahahahaha, good catch. Fits right in with the dicked up castle nut and otherwise disreputable weapon 
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What is your goal in learning how to value ARs? So I don't make the same mistake. I am new to AR and see prices all over the board which I have no clue why. But with this post I just learned a wealth of knowledge and I am starting a scratch build in a few weeks. So I next post will be what parts make the perfect AR? 
It is amazing the quick knowlege there is here on this forum sometimes I think these guys have been around these guns for many years. 
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Quoted: I'm sorry but I didn't pose the question to you so you're right, you are guessing.
Quoted:What is your goal in learning how to value ARs?
So that when he sees a deal thats too good to pass up, he'll know it when he sees it and not miss out on it Just my guess.I asked the question because of an earlier post the OP made. And before that post I gave such a nice thank you. How much does it cost to list a gun on gunbroker? 
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