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Posted: 9/2/2018 7:29:36 AM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Vegas19D:
I seem to recall reading in this thread that the SOCOM profile barrels were typically used on the RIS II FSB uppers and the RIS II NON-FSB uppers had standard M4 profile barrels underneath, is that correct? CD |
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Posted: 9/2/2018 7:32:41 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/2/2018 7:33:26 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/2/2018 3:04:46 PM EDT
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Whats the consensus on a TA31ECOS acog? I have an itch for another acog and from reading the 700 or so pages this one has popped up a few times in this thread and i guess as seen in the wild. Is it clone correct?
I have a tan exps on my mk18 so i'm trying to go for optic diversity. I also like the crosshair reticle versus the traditional chevron. |
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Posted: 9/2/2018 3:08:01 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLAudio:
Whats the consensus on a TA31ECOS acog? I have an itch for another acog and from reading the 700 or so pages this one has popped up a few times in this thread and i guess as seen in the wild. Is it clone correct? I have a tan exps on my mk18 so i'm trying to go for optic diversity. I also like the crosshair reticle versus the traditional chevron. |
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Posted: 9/2/2018 10:51:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FreefallRet]
[#6]
For those with elcans, how much of the view is blocked at 1X with a PEQ on top of the rail?
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Posted: 9/2/2018 11:02:15 PM EDT
[#7]
Scroll down a few posts from the top of the previous page.
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Posted: 9/2/2018 11:31:14 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kalmar:
Scroll down a few posts from the top of the previous page. |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 1:25:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: brodband8]
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLAudio:
Whats the consensus on a TA31ECOS acog? I have an itch for another acog and from reading the 700 or so pages this one has popped up a few times in this thread and i guess as seen in the wild. Is it clone correct? I have a tan exps on my mk18 so i'm trying to go for optic diversity. I also like the crosshair reticle versus the traditional chevron. |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 3:28:40 AM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLAudio:
Whats the consensus on a TA31ECOS acog? I have an itch for another acog and from reading the 700 or so pages this one has popped up a few times in this thread and i guess as seen in the wild. Is it clone correct? I have a tan exps on my mk18 so i'm trying to go for optic diversity. I also like the crosshair reticle versus the traditional chevron. |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 4:12:08 AM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JonnyMoses: Ta01ecos and Ta31ecos are also known as the the Su-237, and after owning 2 of them and an Mint Gen3 Su-230, and I would say the ecos is a better optic than the Elcan in almost every single way. The both utilize pretty much the same socom reticle. The acog can be serviced and repaired, good luck getting ever getting raytheon or armament tech to service or repair an elcan, besides changing out the illumination module for an upgrade. The ecos is lighter optic compared to the elcan. And finally the ecos is at least 1k cheaper. I will say the eye relief on the elcan though is slightly better. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 9/3/2018 4:23:45 AM EDT
[#12]
I’m torn between a closetine or a three prong. Is one more “ correct “ than the other?
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Posted: 9/3/2018 4:28:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: cmdexe]
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brodband8: Armament tech will service any su230 regardless of origin but only for external repairs, and they are limited on what external parts/repairs they can do. |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 4:52:53 AM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JonnyMoses: Correct, so if you need a new objective or eyepiece lens they cannot repair it. Even though I still own an Su230, its a big turn off if the optic were to need repairs down the road for at the price-point its at. From what I was told by one of the individuals who does warranty work at Raytheon and from individuals who do repairs at armament tech, is that elcan optics are not meant to be opened at all for repairs. When the optic is damaged internally or to a point that it needs internal repairs and if it is under warranty they will just replace the optic, however if it is out of warranty you are pretty much sol. About the only repairs that can be done to them are external repairs as you stated which cover such issues as with the lever, lever spring, arms mount, and illumination module upgrade; these are very limited repairs. |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 7:38:36 AM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rochelieux:
I’m torn between a closetine or a three prong. Is one more “ correct “ than the other? CD |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 11:42:43 AM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JonnyMoses: Ta01ecos and Ta31ecos are also known as the the Su-237, and after owning 2 of them and an Mint Gen3 Su-230, and I would say the ecos is a better optic than the Elcan in almost every single way. The both utilize pretty much the same socom reticle. The acog can be serviced and repaired, good luck getting ever getting raytheon or armament tech to service or repair an elcan, besides changing out the illumination module for an upgrade. The ecos is lighter optic compared to the elcan. And finally the ecos is at least 1k cheaper. I will say the eye relief on the elcan though is slightly better. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JonnyMoses: Ta01ecos and Ta31ecos are also known as the the Su-237, and after owning 2 of them and an Mint Gen3 Su-230, and I would say the ecos is a better optic than the Elcan in almost every single way. The both utilize pretty much the same socom reticle. The acog can be serviced and repaired, good luck getting ever getting raytheon or armament tech to service or repair an elcan, besides changing out the illumination module for an upgrade. The ecos is lighter optic compared to the elcan. And finally the ecos is at least 1k cheaper. I will say the eye relief on the elcan though is slightly better. Originally Posted By brodband8: I was about to do a 14.5 block II and run a ta01ecos myself until I can find another su230. I say go for it. Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Yeah I've seen ECOS' on issued guns. Go for it now i need to scour the internet for a anodized FDE ADM QD mount for it. the bobro mount that is trijicon branded is fugly. |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 3:20:44 PM EDT
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First snaps of my block 2 from my cell phone
Colt Socom 14.5 pinned and welded sf3p DD RIS II colt bcg colt keyhole upper colt m4 carbine lower colt ambi safety geissele ssa CQD bits and pieces KAC bits and pieces b5 sopmod govt contract stock I might swap the black stock for the poopy b5 stock when the acog shows up. 
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Posted: 9/3/2018 5:37:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLAudio:
First snaps of my block 2 from my cell phone Colt Socom 14.5 pinned and welded sf3p DD RIS II colt bcg colt keyhole upper colt m4 carbine lower colt ambi safety geissele ssa CQD bits and pieces KAC bits and pieces b5 sopmod govt contract stock I might swap the black stock for the poopy b5 stock when the acog shows up. https://i.imgur.com/kFO7nz4.jpg?1 https://i.imgur.com/pRWsCRs.jpg?1 
Naked Block II's always look good. What are your optic and light plans? |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 7:35:44 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Will816:
Nice
Naked Block II's always look good. What are your optic and light plans? I have a new Colt 6920 I need to do something with. |
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Posted: 9/4/2018 7:47:59 AM EDT
[#20]
I apologize if this has been covered, but which TA31 models are correct for a Block II FSP?
My budget sucks, so I’d like to pick a model that I could slap on my A4 and not be too far off if I were to feel the need. |
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Posted: 9/4/2018 9:14:10 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sputnik556:
I apologize if this has been covered, but which TA31 models are correct for a Block II FSP? My budget sucks, so I’d like to pick a model that I could slap on my A4 and not be too far off if I were to feel the need. CD |
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AR, USA
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Posted: 9/4/2018 9:17:44 AM EDT
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TA31RCOM150-CP and TA31F
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Posted: 9/4/2018 10:29:49 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sputnik556:
I apologize if this has been covered, but which TA31 models are correct for a Block II FSP? My budget sucks, so I’d like to pick a model that I could slap on my A4 and not be too far off if I were to feel the need. |
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Posted: 9/4/2018 11:49:20 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate:
The correct ACOG for a USMC M16A4 wouldn't be correct for a Block II. I would get one that is correct for one or the other. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate:
Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
I apologize if this has been covered, but which TA31 models are correct for a Block II FSP? My budget sucks, so I’d like to pick a model that I could slap on my A4 and not be too far off if I were to feel the need. |
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Posted: 9/4/2018 12:04:47 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sputnik556:
Right, I want one that’s correct for the Block II, I just want to swap it over to the A4 on occasion. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sputnik556:
Originally Posted By pezboytate:
Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
I apologize if this has been covered, but which TA31 models are correct for a Block II FSP? My budget sucks, so I’d like to pick a model that I could slap on my A4 and not be too far off if I were to feel the need. If you were to get the -A4 (a little harder to find but they’re out there) you would do the same just reversed |
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Posted: 9/4/2018 12:16:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Sputnik556]
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
The RCO-A4 reticle is calibrated for a 20” barrel, but if I was wanting to swap back and forth I would go with the RCO-M4 personally. It won’t be off by a whole lot on the A4 until you start pushing it out there a ways toward max effective range....but you could use a ballistic calculator to get your holds if you were doing long range stuff with the A4. If you were to get the -A4 (a little harder to find but they’re out there) you would do the same just reversed Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
Originally Posted By pezboytate:
Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
I apologize if this has been covered, but which TA31 models are correct for a Block II FSP? My budget sucks, so I’d like to pick a model that I could slap on my A4 and not be too far off if I were to feel the need. If you were to get the -A4 (a little harder to find but they’re out there) you would do the same just reversed Even though it isn’t correct, I’ve also considered the TA31H, don’t beat me. 
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Posted: 9/4/2018 12:20:15 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sputnik556:
Thanks. 99% of the time it’ll live on the 14.5”. Even though it isn’t correct, I’ve also considered the TA31H, don’t beat me. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sputnik556:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
Originally Posted By pezboytate:
Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
I apologize if this has been covered, but which TA31 models are correct for a Block II FSP? My budget sucks, so I’d like to pick a model that I could slap on my A4 and not be too far off if I were to feel the need. If you were to get the -A4 (a little harder to find but they’re out there) you would do the same just reversed Even though it isn’t correct, I’ve also considered the TA31H, don’t beat me.
They fall in the “sort of correct” category as they’re designated the RCO-2. The Marine Corps has some H reticles in use....and it’s definitely a better reticle than the 31F/chevron family |
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Posted: 9/4/2018 12:23:40 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
If I beat you I would have to beat myself....because I use the TA31H on mine
They fall in the “sort of correct” category as they’re designated the RCO-2. The Marine Corps has some H reticles in use....and it’s definitely a better reticle than the 31F/chevron family Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
Originally Posted By pezboytate:
Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
I apologize if this has been covered, but which TA31 models are correct for a Block II FSP? My budget sucks, so I’d like to pick a model that I could slap on my A4 and not be too far off if I were to feel the need. If you were to get the -A4 (a little harder to find but they’re out there) you would do the same just reversed Even though it isn’t correct, I’ve also considered the TA31H, don’t beat me.
They fall in the “sort of correct” category as they’re designated the RCO-2. The Marine Corps has some H reticles in use....and it’s definitely a better reticle than the 31F/chevron family Any idea what load and barrel length the H is calibrated for? I’ve seen conflicting information. |
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Posted: 9/4/2018 12:25:26 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sputnik556:
Nice! Any idea what load and barrel length the H is calibrated for? I’ve seen conflicting information. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sputnik556:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
Originally Posted By pezboytate:
Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
I apologize if this has been covered, but which TA31 models are correct for a Block II FSP? My budget sucks, so I’d like to pick a model that I could slap on my A4 and not be too far off if I were to feel the need. If you were to get the -A4 (a little harder to find but they’re out there) you would do the same just reversed Even though it isn’t correct, I’ve also considered the TA31H, don’t beat me.
They fall in the “sort of correct” category as they’re designated the RCO-2. The Marine Corps has some H reticles in use....and it’s definitely a better reticle than the 31F/chevron family Any idea what load and barrel length the H is calibrated for? I’ve seen conflicting information. |
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Posted: 9/4/2018 12:27:57 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
M855/14.5” bbl Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
Originally Posted By pezboytate:
Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
I apologize if this has been covered, but which TA31 models are correct for a Block II FSP? My budget sucks, so I’d like to pick a model that I could slap on my A4 and not be too far off if I were to feel the need. If you were to get the -A4 (a little harder to find but they’re out there) you would do the same just reversed Even though it isn’t correct, I’ve also considered the TA31H, don’t beat me.
They fall in the “sort of correct” category as they’re designated the RCO-2. The Marine Corps has some H reticles in use....and it’s definitely a better reticle than the 31F/chevron family Any idea what load and barrel length the H is calibrated for? I’ve seen conflicting information. Now to save my pennies for the next forever.
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Posted: 9/4/2018 12:30:12 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sputnik556:
Awesome, thanks. Now to save my pennies for the next forever. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sputnik556:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
Originally Posted By pezboytate:
Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
I apologize if this has been covered, but which TA31 models are correct for a Block II FSP? My budget sucks, so I’d like to pick a model that I could slap on my A4 and not be too far off if I were to feel the need. If you were to get the -A4 (a little harder to find but they’re out there) you would do the same just reversed Even though it isn’t correct, I’ve also considered the TA31H, don’t beat me.
They fall in the “sort of correct” category as they’re designated the RCO-2. The Marine Corps has some H reticles in use....and it’s definitely a better reticle than the 31F/chevron family Any idea what load and barrel length the H is calibrated for? I’ve seen conflicting information. Now to save my pennies for the next forever.
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Posted: 9/4/2018 1:03:18 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
And you still need a 454 to replace that 305 in your car. Best get a 2nd/3rd job! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
Originally Posted By pezboytate:
Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
I apologize if this has been covered, but which TA31 models are correct for a Block II FSP? My budget sucks, so I’d like to pick a model that I could slap on my A4 and not be too far off if I were to feel the need. If you were to get the -A4 (a little harder to find but they’re out there) you would do the same just reversed Even though it isn’t correct, I’ve also considered the TA31H, don’t beat me.
They fall in the “sort of correct” category as they’re designated the RCO-2. The Marine Corps has some H reticles in use....and it’s definitely a better reticle than the 31F/chevron family Any idea what load and barrel length the H is calibrated for? I’ve seen conflicting information. Now to save my pennies for the next forever. 
If you think that’s bad, I’m buying a new Ranger in the spring. The second job may be a good idea. That 305 is going to have a home for a long time.
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Posted: 9/4/2018 11:12:52 PM EDT
[#33]
This place needs more pics... |
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Posted: 9/5/2018 1:21:35 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lerch641:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/Black_Hawk_169/20180904_180333_zpsjmpfira2.jpg This place needs more pics... 
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Posted: 9/6/2018 6:00:12 PM EDT
[#35]
You know what they say, trust, but verify.
This look legit? Some of the lettering is light. 
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Posted: 9/6/2018 6:40:25 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sputnik556:
You know what they say, trust, but verify. This look legit? Some of the lettering is light. https://i.imgur.com/mKABeDS.jpg https://i.imgur.com/klWqWwl.jpg https://i.imgur.com/5sbQzT6.jpg https://i.imgur.com/QEVsoNi.jpg |
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Posted: 9/6/2018 6:42:04 PM EDT
[#37]
Looks good to me.
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Posted: 9/6/2018 10:25:12 PM EDT
[#38]
Would anyone. Be willing to trade my fsp ris for their non fsp ris? I would add $50-100
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Posted: 9/7/2018 8:01:48 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sputnik556:
You know what they say, trust, but verify. This look legit? Some of the lettering is light. https://i.imgur.com/mKABeDS.jpg https://i.imgur.com/klWqWwl.jpg https://i.imgur.com/5sbQzT6.jpg https://i.imgur.com/QEVsoNi.jpg |
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Posted: 9/7/2018 4:13:31 PM EDT
[#40]
https://postimg.cc/gallery/1bcu577g8/
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Posted: 9/7/2018 9:05:26 PM EDT
[#41]
This may be a dumb question, but any issues with using ladder covers under the FSB?
I’m concerned about heat, obviously. |
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Posted: 9/7/2018 9:12:24 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sputnik556:
This may be a dumb question, but any issues with using ladder covers under the FSB? I’m concerned about heat, obviously. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 9/8/2018 7:33:50 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sputnik556:
You know what they say, trust, but verify. This look legit? Some of the lettering is light. https://i.imgur.com/mKABeDS.jpg https://i.imgur.com/klWqWwl.jpg https://i.imgur.com/5sbQzT6.jpg https://i.imgur.com/QEVsoNi.jpg |
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Posted: 9/8/2018 11:25:54 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Guardian223: The lettering on mine looks just like yours, with the Black Creek, GA lettering a slightly different shade. I was wondering the same thing as you, I think mine is legit but have no way of knowing for sure? |
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Posted: 9/8/2018 11:30:15 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AcesHye:
https://postimg.cc/gallery/1bcu577g8/ 
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FL, USA
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Posted: 9/8/2018 2:21:52 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brodband8: It's legit, it's fine. |
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Posted: 9/8/2018 3:11:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: pbjunkiee]
[#47]
Thinking about putting my prototype 1-5 on my m4 until i can secure a cheap mark 6 1-6.
What are my mount options again? Thinking a 104 will br my easiest choice  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/8/2018 3:13:01 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pbjunkiee:
Thinking about putting my prototype 1-5 on my m4 until i can secure a cheap mark 6 1-6. What are my mount options again? Thinking a 104 will br my easiest choice https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/348028/20180409_125055-665306.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/348028/20170203_170427-665307.JPG
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Posted: 9/8/2018 3:17:03 PM EDT
[#49]
fat finer on my phone lol .... one min
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Posted: 9/8/2018 3:19:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: pbjunkiee]
[#50]
 Attached FileFound a cheap lt-104 for it, should be here monday Allegedly a test scope from crane https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Scope-Gurus-I-Got-One-For-Ya/5-1962337/ |
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