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5/22/2011 9:51:34 AM EDT
i went to my friend and have been browsing on here and have kinda narrowed down my options. my friend who has built and bought complete rifles tol;d me my best option is a spikes middy but i have found real good deals on dpms or bushmaster and even rra complete rifles with plenty of upgrades. i know a lot of people say that newbs should work up but i am in the process of going patrol and would like a weapon to get used to and follow me into patrol. amy advise you cvould give would be great. p.s. my budget is about 1500 i also live dfw area so if anyone knows of good stores or deals in the are that would be great.
5/22/2011 9:56:23 AM EDT
[#1]
Spikes are the better quality of the ones you mentioned, would pass on DPMS. Bushmaster and RRA or okay too. Look at colt 6920, it's easily in you price range.
5/22/2011 10:20:56 AM EDT
[#2]
I'd go with spikes or BCM for that price range.  The middy is my favorite option as well.
5/22/2011 12:37:15 PM EDT
[#3]
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I'd go with spikes or BCM for that price range.  The middy is my favorite option as well.


Yep.

If you grab a 16" barrel, get a midlength system, do NOT get a carbine system.  I have one, and I'm waiting to replace the barrel with a middy.
5/22/2011 1:45:32 PM EDT
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I'd go with spikes or BCM for that price range.  The middy is my favorite option as well.


Yep.

If you grab a 16" barrel, get a midlength system, do NOT get a carbine system.  I have one, and I'm waiting to replace the barrel with a middy.


Nonsense....

The Spikes is a good way to go....you were steered in the right direction.  Also great advice on the Colt 6920 and BCM above.  There is not a damn thing wrong with a carbine length gas system with a 16" barrel (a la Colt 6920).  Many prefer a midlength gas system with a 16" barrel (have two myself) because it's "softer shooting" or "not over gassed", but it's mainly just the flavor of the week...

Nothing wrong with the Bushmaster or RRA, but arguably a better rifle for the money in the Spikes.  For $1500....Spikes or BCM gun + Larue Mount + Aimpoint + Surefire G2LED light = hell of a rig.

Welcome!!!
5/22/2011 3:52:00 PM EDT
[#5]
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I'd go with spikes or BCM for that price range.  The middy is my favorite option as well.


Yep.

If you grab a 16" barrel, get a midlength system, do NOT get a carbine system.  I have one, and I'm waiting to replace the barrel with a middy.


Nonsense....

The Spikes is a good way to go....you were steered in the right direction.  Also great advice on the Colt 6920 and BCM above.  There is not a damn thing wrong with a carbine length gas system with a 16" barrel (a la Colt 6920).  Many prefer a midlength gas system with a 16" barrel (have two myself) because it's "softer shooting" or "not over gassed", but it's mainly just the flavor of the week...

Nothing wrong with the Bushmaster or RRA, but arguably a better rifle for the money in the Spikes.  For $1500....Spikes or BCM gun + Larue Mount + Aimpoint + Surefire G2LED light = hell of a rig.

Welcome!!!


I agree with the "Carbine = Nonsence" argument.

And i run both systems.

J
5/22/2011 7:50:08 PM EDT
[#6]
thanks for the response now would a 7" quad rail work for the middy? and i was looking at the st-15 mid and thanks for the options with the optics and tac light becasue that is what i want with a foregrip and/ or bi pod for a little better accuracy if i decide to go to 200-300 yd range which i think is totally possible.
5/22/2011 7:59:09 PM EDT
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thanks for the response now would a 7" quad rail work for the middy? and i was looking at the st-15 mid and thanks for the options with the optics and tac light becasue that is what i want with a foregrip and/ or bi pod for a little better accuracy if i decide to go to 200-300 yd range which i think is totally possible.


Middy AR's have the FSB at 9". You would need a 9" rail system if you decide to use a FSB.

It's the shortest you can go with a FSB. You should have no problem hitting man sized targets at 200-300yds with a non free floated rail using some good ammo and of course, doing your part.

Best of luck!!

J
5/22/2011 8:04:03 PM EDT
[#8]
once again a new lingo is fairly new to me what is fsb?could i use a full 12" and still look good especially with  a a2 front site
5/22/2011 8:23:07 PM EDT
[#9]
is it true you can shoot 5.56 and .223 through a 5.56 but not a 5.56 througha .223?
5/22/2011 8:29:50 PM EDT
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is it true you can shoot 5.56 and .223 through a 5.56 but not a 5.56 througha .223?


Yes.

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once again a new lingo is fairly new to me what is fsb?could i use a full 12" and still look good especially with  a a2 front site


Front sight base.  Most FSB's are also the gas block, so it would be at either the 7" location in a carbine, or a 9" location in a midlength.

You could also forgo the FSB, get a low profile gas block, and get as long of rail as you want that fits over the low profile gas block.
5/22/2011 8:31:32 PM EDT
[#11]
OP there is nothing wrong with a carbine gas system, if nothing else the military proves that.

the middy is a new fad here on arfcom. a year ago everyone was suggesting carbines, now its middies, but the diff between the 2 is so slight that i have yet to see proof of it actually existing.
5/22/2011 9:00:38 PM EDT
[#12]
i like the middy as a platform idea because i am a middle of the road guy i dont want long or short so middys is astetically pleasing to me.
5/22/2011 10:08:10 PM EDT
[#13]




Welcome

- Clint
5/22/2011 10:29:48 PM EDT
[#14]
bt2009 IM Replyed!!

J
5/23/2011 1:36:41 AM EDT
[#15]
Remember to check Dept. policy before purchasing, if you plan on using it on patrol.  Some Depts have specifics on what they let their officers carry.
5/23/2011 4:29:49 AM EDT
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I'd go with spikes or BCM for that price range.  The middy is my favorite option as well.
Yep.

If you grab a 16" barrel, get a midlength system, do NOT get a carbine system.  I have one, and I'm waiting to replace the barrel with a middy.
Nonsense....Also great advice on the Colt 6920 and BCM above.  There is not a damn thing wrong with a carbine length gas system with a 16" barrel (a la Colt 6920).  Many prefer a midlength gas system with a 16" barrel (have two myself) because it's "softer shooting" or "not over gassed", but it's mainly just the flavor of the week...
I agree with boarklr about the carbine/mid length comments but I prefer BCM.





 
5/23/2011 6:36:05 AM EDT
[#17]
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For $1500....Spikes or BCM gun + Larue Mount + Aimpoint + Surefire G2LED light = hell of a rig.


this is the truth
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