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2/21/2011 8:12:16 AM EDT
Looking at a comp/brake for my new build.  I'm in NY so I need to run a brake/comp on it.  I run a FSC556 on my other rifle and it's a bit loud (undersatement).  Just curious as to what my options are in terms of quieter brakes/comps.

2/21/2011 8:17:07 AM EDT
[#1]
Battlecomp of course.  It's not cheap though. ...$150

2/21/2011 8:26:12 AM EDT
[#2]
+1 Battlecomp is the best comp on the market.
2/21/2011 8:29:08 AM EDT
[#3]
I think that the Levang Linear Comp is considered to be one of the quietest to the shooter and the sides... it works like the Noveske Pig in that it directs the blast forward.  

Ive never used it myself but i considered getting it at one time, reviews seem to be good on it, it just translates the felt recoil back towards the shooter instead of using ports on the top and side to direct gases away and reduce felt recoil.

So it is quieter than others (maybe one better at that but im not sure what it is) but the felt recoil is more than a traditional brake/comp... but this is slightly negated by the recoil being straight back instead of a "muzzle jump" type felt recoil...

That is a purely gathered research.. just what ive read... no personal experience.

It is also not as tacticool as other more expensive options.
2/21/2011 9:03:22 AM EDT
[#4]
I have a Levang on one AR. Does nothing to tame the vicious recoil but it sends the noise downrange nicely.
2/21/2011 9:04:51 AM EDT
[#5]
The Battlecomp is a great comp, but is by no means quiet...IMHO  I am also in search of a quiet/(quieter) comp/brake.

If you do decide you want a used BC 1.0,  let me know.
2/21/2011 9:14:26 AM EDT
[#6]
BattleComp is most likely the least offensive coomp/brake.  Brakes with side venting ports are effective, but they produce concussion and blast that are hard for the shooter's mates.

Every time we go to a training/refresher course, everyone complains about the SF brake my friend uses.  Nobody complained about the folks that use Battle Comps, for the most part, they aren't aware of the presence of the Battle Comps because they behave quite in a very civil manner
2/21/2011 9:17:32 AM EDT
[#7]
Battlecomp is my recommendation as well. I also have FSC556, Rainier Arms XTC and YHM Phantom Comp experience.

Not the cheapest but it's what I (and a lot of others seem to recommend).
2/21/2011 9:21:56 AM EDT
[#8]
Battlecomp.



Or a suppressor...
2/21/2011 9:40:54 AM EDT
[#9]
I use Levangs on my SBR's
2/21/2011 11:09:00 AM EDT
[#10]
By their nature, "Brakes" and "quiet" just don't go together.....no matter what anyone claims.  With the exception of the Levang (and I'm not even sure you could call that a brake in the sense of the word), they are all quite a louder than a standard flash hider.  The Levang redirects the sound downrange....but does nothing to reduce muzzle rise and felt recoil.

All that in mind, I agree with the general opinion on the Battlecomp.  I think a lot of the reason why it is at least perceived to be a bit quieter is that it disperses the blast evenly and radially, thus reducing the concussion effect quite a bit by contrast to other brakes, which have great big holes in their sides through which the gas comes out of with some force.  People often get their overall impression of "loudness" via a combination of the two factors (noise and blast), so if the battlecomp does a good job of taking one of those away, it at least "feels" quieter.
2/21/2011 11:17:57 AM EDT
[#11]
There's no question that if someones using a battlecomp next to you... you won't notice any difference compared to a standard USGI flash hider.

It's still LOUD... like any carbine would be.... but not noticeably different from a regular flash hider.
2/21/2011 11:38:30 AM EDT
[#12]
Noveske pig Iv heard are quiet
2/21/2011 11:48:13 AM EDT
[#13]
but is the BattleComp NY legal?
2/21/2011 12:02:41 PM EDT
[#14]
Mini-Y comp..

2/21/2011 12:06:16 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
but is the BattleComp NY legal?


I think it is. It is designed to be a comp not a flash hider. It has the benefit of having almost the same flash suppression ability as the A2 but again it is not its primary job. Might want to ask around on the hometown forums under NY and see.
2/21/2011 12:11:13 PM EDT
[#16]



Quoted:


+1 Battlecomp is the best comp on the market.


only if by comp you mean compromise

 
there are better compensators

there are better flash hiders

the battlecomp is the best of both
2/21/2011 9:47:39 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
but is the BattleComp NY legal?


The question has come up before.  The concensus was that since it was marketed as a compensator and didn't have an open front it was OK.  

I may go with another FSC or try the Rainier Arms XTC since $150 is a bit much in my opinion for a muzzle device.  Heck, I may find a barrel with a target crown and call it a day.
2/21/2011 11:23:43 PM EDT
[#18]
I haven't read add the brouhaha about the BC, but if there is even the words 'flash' reduction/hider in their descriptions, then better be sure it is ban compliant.
2/22/2011 5:52:40 AM EDT
[#19]
If you modify a Troy Claymore (~$50-65) you can make it better than a battlecomp, as in slightly quieter and better recoil reduction, easier to keep on target by cutting slits in the sides.  You can also do less removal and make it quieter but will less control, you and also just angle one slit (up and to the right) are that will give you quiet + muzzle control but no reduction in recoil.  I think its only more effective b/c there is greater interal volume for gas expansion or sides (brake area) are thicker and probably helps that is heavier..  They are built like a tank, you will will use 1 diamond cuttoff blade for each slit, about 10 for doing the entire brake.  The battlecomp and triple tap are open chambers with holes in front and open area around ouside of brake except on bottom, which pushs barrel down.  A unbraked AR walks up and to the right.  With the Troy Claymore that is a forward blast comp, you already have the holes in front and a expansion chamber, you have ribs on the outside that make a nice guide.  You can cut around the side to get the results you want.  The battlecomp does not push down enough for some people/setups, and too much for others.  What you can do with the troy is cut a slit that angles gas out at 1 o'clock to counter muzzle rise and puch the barrel back down and to the left slightly.  You can go wider or add more until its perfect until you get muzzle control you want.  If you stop here you have a pretty quite brake (post is pushed forward that keeps most sound heading downrange and your muzzle on target, but no recoil reduction and no flsh reduction.  You can start cuting slits in the sides like traditional brakes, each one ads noise and takes out recoil.
2/22/2011 6:00:23 AM EDT
[#20]



Quoted:



Quoted:

but is the BattleComp NY legal?




The question has come up before.  The concensus was that since it was marketed as a compensator and didn't have an open front it was OK.  



I may go with another FSC or try the Rainier Arms XTC since $150 is a bit much in my opinion for a muzzle device.  Heck, I may find a barrel with a target crown and call it a day.


It's California legal. If it's legal there, I feel like it should be legal anywhere.



I'd check with your local authorities though. I was considering moving back to Connecticut at one point and contacted the Connecticut State Patrol. They told me that since it is marketed as a compensator I should be within the law.



 
2/22/2011 8:02:27 AM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
+1 Battlecomp is the best comp on the market.


As a very happy user of Battle Comps, I have to say the above statement is false.

If you want the best comp/brake, take a look at the Titan, Rolling Thunder, or JP Recoil Eliminator.
2/22/2011 3:25:01 PM EDT
[#22]
I put 2 Levang devices on 2 of my guns.

End result is noise on par with a handgun shot.  Loud, but not quite the "crack" of the regular rifle round.
2/22/2011 3:27:44 PM EDT
[#23]
anybody have a YHM Phantom brake?

That's what came with my Bushmaster AR. Seems pretty f-ing loud, but I heard the mini-Y and Miculek brakes are even worse. I only have one AR so I really can't compare it to anything.
2/22/2011 4:06:32 PM EDT
[#24]
Battlecomp!!
2/22/2011 4:09:03 PM EDT
[#25]
I use FSC's on all of my post bans right now and it's probably the best choice for NY.  The BATFE letter that comes with it gives me a great peace of mind, especially in light of what's going on in Nassau county.  The BattleComp may be slightly quieter, but it also costs 50% more and cannot match the FSC's flash suppressing level.  Members of NYSP and ATF have said it's GTG, but that doesn't come with the official letter.
2/22/2011 4:11:53 PM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
anybody have a YHM Phantom brake?

That's what came with my Bushmaster AR. Seems pretty f-ing loud, but I heard the mini-Y and Miculek brakes are even worse. I only have one AR so I really can't compare it to anything.


I do. It's not bad compared to most.
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