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1/15/2011 7:49:10 AM EDT
Hey was just wondering what you guys thought of this product... Life Jacket

Here is a picture of my (new) AR-15...

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz313/dstyer90/AR-15/AR15.jpg

Do you guys think it would fit my configuration without any issues?

Thanks in advance.
1/15/2011 8:03:05 AM EDT
[#1]
I'd just stick with a safe. It looks like I would just cut it off with a cordless sawzall if I saw one on a wall during a B&E.

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1/15/2011 8:07:33 AM EDT
[#2]
sure would not prevent it from being stolen. i would stick with a safe also, but if you're stuck on that thing it should fit ok.
1/15/2011 8:15:59 AM EDT
[#3]
I would rather go with a safe too but my situation is a bit different. I live in an apartment building and cash is a bit low right now.

Anything would be a step above what I'm using for security at the moment, which is, nothing. I have the gun unloaded sitting on a gunrack in the closet.

I am more concerned about deterring theft but also child safety. This would solve the later.

I was told by a friend that I could bolt it into a stud in the wall to help make it more secure, but I was also thinking of using this product along with this one... Handcuff Lock

Obviously the bottom line is that if someone wants it bad enough, and has the time and resources, they'll get it. I just want to take steps to prevent it as best as possible.
I would love a safe, and will look into one when I have some more cash.
1/15/2011 8:19:49 AM EDT
[#4]
If you are using it for security, get a regular trigger lock.  The Life Jacket requires you fumble with a key in two locks before you can open it.  By that time you are screwed.  I don't like gun locks at all.  I prefer to keep my weapon on safe.
1/15/2011 8:25:14 AM EDT
[#5]
I agree with you, it would take more time to open up.

My plan is while I am at home I will have the gun sitting on the rack with a loaded mag inserted with nothing in the chamber.

But while I am away I was planning on using the life jacket and possibly the handcuff lock I mentioned.

I am not concerned about anyone accessing my weapon while I am at home, more so if someone got in while I was away.
1/15/2011 8:39:28 AM EDT
[#6]
I think it would fit, but I think there are better options to use.
1/15/2011 8:40:04 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
I agree with you, it would take more time to open up.

My plan is while I am at home I will have the gun sitting on the rack with a loaded mag inserted with nothing in the chamber.

But while I am away I was planning on using the life jacket and possibly the handcuff lock I mentioned.

I am not concerned about anyone accessing my weapon while I am at home, more so if someone got in while I was away.



I think you would be better served finding a good hiding spot for the rifle.  A hidden panel in a closet or a rack above the door inside the closet (nobody ever looks there).
1/15/2011 8:50:56 AM EDT
[#8]
True. I just don't know how much "demolition" I want to do while I am renting this apartment.
1/15/2011 9:25:53 AM EDT
[#9]
I had a buddy who hid his in the sides of a washing machine when called away for work.... until he got a safe.

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1/15/2011 9:52:20 AM EDT
[#10]
If you are worried about somebody stealing it just use a pair of handcuffs and cuff it through the trigger guard and the other to the bed frame or some other large object. I also use the handcuffs when I have to leave my pistol in my truck, one through the trigger guard and the other around the seat post. If they can get it free they deserve it, lol!!!!   As for children, they make a trigger lock that doesn't use a key or combo lock but it requires certain movements that children  wont be able to figure it out or strong enough to unlock. I would never put a lock that requires a key on any SD weapon. The first thing you will loose when it hits the fan is the loss of fine motor skills. If this is your child teach them young that a firearm is something to be respected. Both my kids were shooting a BB/pelet gun by 5 and had their own 22 buy age 7. They are grown now, and I am proud to say that they are both safer with firearms than most adults I have shot with.
1/15/2011 10:00:36 AM EDT
[#11]





Quoted:



If you are worried about somebody stealing it just use a pair of handcuffs and cuff it through the trigger guard and the other to the bed frame or some other large object. I also use the handcuffs when I have to leave my pistol in my truck, one through the trigger guard and the other around the seat post. If they can get it free they deserve it, lol!!!!   As for children, they make a trigger lock that doesn't use a key or combo lock but it requires certain movements that children  wont be able to figure it out or strong enough to unlock. I would never put a lock that requires a key on any SD weapon. The first thing you will loose when it hits the fan is the loss of fine motor skills. If this is your child teach them young that a firearm is something to be respected. Both my kids were shooting a BB/pelet gun by 5 and had their own 22 buy age 7. They are grown now, and I am proud to say that they are both safer with firearms than most adults I have shot with.



What if you have a standard trigger guard? (Like the OP's picture)





That's an easy steal.

 
1/15/2011 10:40:32 AM EDT
[#12]



Quoted:





Quoted:

If you are worried about somebody stealing it just use a pair of handcuffs and cuff it through the trigger guard and the other to the bed frame or some other large object. I also use the handcuffs when I have to leave my pistol in my truck, one through the trigger guard and the other around the seat post. If they can get it free they deserve it, lol!!!!   As for children, they make a trigger lock that doesn't use a key or combo lock but it requires certain movements that children  wont be able to figure it out or strong enough to unlock. I would never put a lock that requires a key on any SD weapon. The first thing you will loose when it hits the fan is the loss of fine motor skills. If this is your child teach them young that a firearm is something to be respected. Both my kids were shooting a BB/pelet gun by 5 and had their own 22 buy age 7. They are grown now, and I am proud to say that they are both safer with firearms than most adults I have shot with.


What if you have a standard trigger guard? (Like the OP's picture)



That's an easy steal.
 
Front sight base.





 
1/15/2011 1:34:04 PM EDT
[#13]
You'd be amazed how many criminals carry handcuff keys.  I find them on folks ALL the time.
1/15/2011 2:36:32 PM EDT
[#14]
And here I thought this thread would put an end to all the boating accidents.
1/15/2011 2:51:42 PM EDT
[#15]
That "life jacket" would not slow a thief down one iota.
I can pick a handcuff with a bobby pin in 13 seconds.
You're better off selling your AR and buying a pistol that you take with you out of the apartment.
Or better yet, letting your parents keep your AR in their safe until you get a real house with a safe.
If you must have it in the apartment, then hide it in such a way that they would need a metal detector to find it like behind a panel of painted and textured drywall or under the floor boards or in the ceiling.
1/15/2011 3:20:16 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
I would rather go with a safe too but my situation is a bit different. I live in an apartment building and cash is a bit low right now.

Anything would be a step above what I'm using for security at the moment, which is, nothing. I have the gun unloaded sitting on a gunrack in the closet.

I am more concerned about deterring theft but also child safety. This would solve the later.

I was told by a friend that I could bolt it into a stud in the wall to help make it more secure, but I was also thinking of using this product along with this one... Handcuff Lock

Obviously the bottom line is that if someone wants it bad enough, and has the time and resources, they'll get it. I just want to take steps to prevent it as best as possible.
I would love a safe, and will look into one when I have some more cash.


When I lived in an apt I would remove the BCG and pistons of my AKs and thread a steel bike lock (flexible) through and tie to the heavy steel bed frame.  I suppose the same would work for ARs.  It would have prevented a quick smash+grab.  Handguns were in a quick-open safe.
1/15/2011 4:42:09 PM EDT
[#17]
Thanks for all the good ideas guys.

I found a good spot in the rafters in the closet and decided to break the AR down to each receiver to conceal it.

I very, very, highly doubt anyone would think about looking up there but who knows.

Probably the best option given my situation regardless.
1/15/2011 4:50:21 PM EDT
[#18]
This would accomplish the same thing as the jacket thing at a much better price and a more practical looking design.
1/15/2011 7:20:47 PM EDT
[#19]
Had one once.
Put it on my AR.
Took my AR to the range to shoot.
Forgot key apparently.
5 minutes with pocket knife and I was shooting the AR.
1/15/2011 8:28:33 PM EDT
[#20]
This reminds me of a thread somebody started about a wall mount for an AR...



- Clint
1/15/2011 9:59:05 PM EDT
[#21]
a $100 Stack on cabinet is way better. I live in an apartment and have had the 14 gun one for 5 years.



make sure you bolt it down.



http://www.factory-express.com/STACKON_GC8RTA_Security_Plus_Gun_Cabinet-7421.htm
1/15/2011 10:36:20 PM EDT
[#22]
My opinion has little weight but I'm still not sold on the AR as an ideal HD gun especially in an apartment...

If it were me and I didn't have much money to throw around I'd separate the receivers and hide them in two different locations.  Even if someone recognizes what they are looking at they may not take it without the other half let alone assemble it if they find both halves...
1/16/2011 9:29:30 AM EDT
[#23]
I agree, I would much rather have a home defense style shotgun to use. Money is a bit tied up right now though.

Thing is I only had enough money for one gun, and I decided to buy an AR-15 for multiple reasons that I won't list out.

I already did break it down to each receiver and hide them like that when I am away. They aren't in seperate locations though, only have one really good spot to hide them.
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