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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Surefire Magazines (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 12/4/2010 11:16:34 AM EDT
| Defense rewiew has an article which reviews two new magazines for 556. One hold 60 rounds the other holds 100. They look just like the drawings of the pmags that were leaked out a while back. These are already in production and look to be pretty good |
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Quoted: Quoted: I'll hold out for the Pro Mag version.   I am pretty sure the Surefire guys have good patent atty's though. They did not invent this technology. Russianshave done this a long time ago, so it is possible to make those mags without violating any SF patents. ETA: MagPul also has a patent: http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2010/06/08/magpuls-quad-stack-magazine/ |
| Is anyone else wondering how reliable the spring is going to be in a mag of this capacity? The price seems crazy as well. They may sell good at $25 but not for what they are asking. I too would rather stock up on P Mags, at least I am convinced they will work every time. |
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Quoted: Quoted: I'll take some 60's for the PDR that i'm building  ive seen you post about this in a thread or 2...how bout some insiders pics for me? i can keep a secret... Seen this yet? i'll have more up soon.... It's still only in Solidworks. PDR Build Thread |
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Anything over 31 rounds is considered a machine gun. So the only way you can uses something larger is if you have NFA stuff. Quoted: Quoted: Fuckin Ohio  Anyone have drawings or pics of how these work?Please excuse my ignorance, but are you guys on some sort of MD type restriction limiting you to 20 or 30rd mags? I thought OH was a pretty good state for gun stuff  |
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What seems to be missing here is a discussion of the weight. How much does a loaded magazine weigh? Do you really want or need to add all that weight to a rifle? Is the magazine catch going to be able to support that much weight? And are people going to really want to carry it?
At some point increased capacity, which equals weight, becomes a liability not an asset. Quite honestly if you need to fire that many rounds you need to go to cover and use a bigger or crew served weapon. Not an Ar-15. And at that moment you would be wishing that you had practiced more and focused on marksmanship, not capacity. |
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Obviously some people aren't grasping the very narrow potential government contract these are aimed at. The fact that 3-gunners, zombie defenders and weekend dirt shooters might buy a few is just walking around money for Surefire. Exactly, meanwhile our military and likely many others could buy hundreds of thousands of these. |
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I'll hold out for the Pro Mag version.
I am pretty sure the Surefire guys have good patent atty's though. They did not invent this technology. Russianshave done this a long time ago, so it is possible to make those mags without violating any SF patents. ETA: MagPul also has a patent: http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2010/06/08/magpuls-quad-stack-magazine/ Neither did the Russians. Give the Finns credit for that with their 50 round "coffin" mags for the KP/-31 subgun. |
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What seems to be missing here is a discussion of the weight. How much does a loaded magazine weigh? Do you really want or need to add all that weight to a rifle? Is the magazine catch going to be able to support that much weight? And are people going to really want to carry it? At some point increased capacity, which equals weight, becomes a liability not an asset. Quite honestly if you need to fire that many rounds you need to go to cover and use a bigger or crew served weapon. Not an Ar-15. And at that moment you would be wishing that you had practiced more and focused on marksmanship, not capacity. This. 2 lbs for the 60 and almost 4 for the 100. No thanks ETA: I guess I can see a 60 being practical for 3 gunners and what not. But past that not sure. Id like to try one though |
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What seems to be missing here is a discussion of the weight. How much does a loaded magazine weigh? Do you really want or need to add all that weight to a rifle? Is the magazine catch going to be able to support that much weight? And are people going to really want to carry it? At some point increased capacity, which equals weight, becomes a liability not an asset. Quite honestly if you need to fire that many rounds you need to go to cover and use a bigger or crew served weapon. Not an Ar-15. And at that moment you would be wishing that you had practiced more and focused on marksmanship, not capacity. This. 2 lbs for the 60 and almost 4 for the 100. No thanks I can appreciate the argument against these for weight concerns. However this is variable for different folks and different weapon weights to start with. Adding another two pounds to a already heavy ten pound ar is different than adding it to a 6+ lightweight build. |
| As far as weight its really not alot of stress on the rifle as 2 30 rd mags will weigh 2 pounds and 6oz more for a mag cinch.The 60 rd mag weighs what 2.2 pounds so its lighter than 2 mags cinched.My nephew when in the Marines carried anywhere from 10 to 15 magazines..with these you can have the same firepower for only having to carry what 8 or 9 mags..same weight and ammo but less bulk. |
[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Surefire Magazines (Page 1 of 2)
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