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Posted: 10/1/2010 5:14:58 PM EDT
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I'm seriously thinking about upgrading my stag model 2 for a colt LE6940. Its not that stag is a bad rifle, i just think the colt is really badass. What do u guys think? Should i get it?
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Does the Stag work and do what you ask of it? If so, don't get rid of it for something that may not fit your needs as well as it does. If none of the above applies, then sure, go for the 6940. agreed. if you dont need the money for the switch keep the stag too. my first two were bushy's that i kept when i got my colt, the bushy's are my 20" coyote rig and kiss carbine and the colt is my optic, light rig. again if you dont need the money for it you could set them up two different ways. |
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I've got a pair of 6940's, I like the monolithic upper. All of the usual Colt goodness is included. The 6940 does have a different barrel nut so you'll need a special wrench if you would like to swap barrels. The tool is out and available, so that's not a huge issue, IMHO.
I don't know anything about the Stag, so I really can't help you compare the two. I do know the 6940 is a fine weapon. |
I like mine, but I'm considering selling it and getting a 14.5 middy. I have short arms so the Magpul grip just barley works for me on a carbine rail. And it's a 16" carbine system, which is of course harsher on recoil than a 16 or 14.5 middy. My other option is to send it to ADCO and have it cut and pinned to be more recoil friendly for competition. What I really don't like is being stuck with a proprietary barrel. I think I would have been much better served by a Vltor VIS or a Mega Monolithic. With either of those I could change barrels out if I wanted. As is, even though I can get a tool, all I can do is get the barrel cut down. On the upside, it runs like a champ.
Bottom line: If you want a Colt Monolithic, you have one choice. If you want a Monolithic you have 4 choices, of which LMT and Colt have proprietary systems, Vltor and Mega having only proprietary barrel nuts. If you just want a Colt and aren't sure about anything else, get a 6920. |
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This summer I was trying to decide between a 6920 and a 6940. The 6920 was about $200 cheaper than the 6940. While not a trivial difference, price was not a make-or-break factor.
I really like the non-proprietary barrel of the 6920. Proprietary parts do not appeal to me. I really like having the 6940's option of not having to have a FSB in my Aimpoint's field of view while still having a FSB pinned to the barrel. I like free-floating rails, so I'd have to replace the 6920's handguards with a Daniel Defense Omega 7.0 or similar, thus negating the price advantage of the 6920. While a bolt-on free-float rail will probably be OK (I rather liked the DD Omega 7.0 that I had on a previous build), something that's screwed and Loctited will never be as strong or consistent (for optics mounting) as a monolithic rail upper. Although the 6940 upper is a little heavier than a stock 6920 upper, I had a chance to hold one of each in each hand and couldn't feel a difference. The weight difference was negligible, in my opinion. So, while I went into the summer fully expecting to buy a 6920 (before I handled a 6940), I ended up going with the 6940. I don't play musical barrels and I prefer many of the 6940's traits to the 6920 (i.e. an unobstructed field of view if I choose and the consistency of a solid rail mounting platform). As a side benefit, the 6940 tends to enjoy a reputation for better-than-average accuracy compared to the 6920. This is attributed to the combination of free-float rail and the longer barrel nut of the 6940's barrel. Not a huge deal, but I'll take it. My advice is that if you look at a 6940 and say to yourself, "I like it, but I'd change [this, that, or the other thing, other than the rear BUIS or rail covers or a shorter barrel length]", go for the 6920 (or keep your Stag if it's similarly-configured). Otherwise, I'd take a 6940 any day, all day. |
| I had to choose between the LE6920 and the 6940 a few months ago. I did my research and it came down to these two rifles. In the end I chose the 6920 and I would choose it again if I had to today. I would still like to have a 6940, but the 6920 will always be my recommendation for a single rifle or someone new to AR's. The 6920 gives you the ability to change rails as your needs change. Some of the rifles on this board have more accessories than my wife has, and that's a hell of a lot!!! With the 6940 you are locked into that rail. While I would assume the one piece upper/rail would be a bit stronger, it just wasn't worth the fact that no changes could be made. Unless the Stag really didn't do something for you that the 6940 would I would keep the Stag and save up for the 6940. But in my honest opinion it makes a lot more sense to first have a 6920, or similar M4 Carbine rifle before you buy something that isn't as flexible. |
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familyman357 - "My advice is that if you look at a 6940 and say to yourself, "I like it, but I'd change [this, that, or the other thing, other than the rear BUIS or rail covers or a shorter barrel length]", go for the 6920 (or keep your Stag if it's similarly-configured). Otherwise, I'd take a 6940 any day, all day." +1 This sums up a good deal of the 6940 discussion. My 6940 morphs into whatever I want it to do (and so would a number of other top tier AR-15's) in under a minute. Iron sight shooting - check. Varmint hunter with NVD - check. Scoped fixed or variable sight - check. I've made 2 modifications - swapping to an Ergo pistol grip & swapping out the factory trigger for a 4# trigger kit from Bill Springfield. Everthing else attaches to the rails. I have spent more time modifying any one of my other rifles and shotguns than I have on my AR-15. God Bless all those who do extensive builds & modifications to their AR-15's from all the manufacturers. They ( & AR15.com) make it easy for the rest of us to sit back and learn.  Barliman |
| I went looking for a 6940 last week I want one and it will be my next firearm purchase , but the two shops I went to plus the fun show they were wanting 1700 dollars for one and 1400 for a 6920 . Im sorry but I am not going to pay an over inflated price for any rifle be it a colt or a friggin marlin 22. here is what one dealer told me " since it says leo or military it is worth more because of the gun ban." I been looking on gun broker and see them for a little over 1300.00 . I got so disgusted I said screw it and bought an acog. |
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As you can see I am a Colt fan. This pic is of 3 of my currents and my other SP-1 is not in the photo. I would pick the 6940 over the 6920. That being said I have shot several Stags, one extensively and have been very impressed with there reliability and quality over all. Keep the Stag and buy the Colt if your finances allow.
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No two ways about ... there are those willing to be a$$hat$ if the people will let them. The 6940 at a local gunshow today was $ 1,289. I thought that was a fair price. A 6920 right next to it was $ 1,129. 
Enjoy the Acog. Barliman Of course you think $1289 for 6940 is a fair price because the guy was losing money on it. As long as you can take the wood to somebody its a good day right? 
Distributor cost on a 6940 is $1221. At $1289 the guy was making an outrageous .05% margin (.06% markup) if he was a distributor. Do us all a favor and stay on the East side of the Mississippi. Thanks! |
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Quoted: Quoted: No two ways about ... there are those willing to be a$$hat$ if the people will let them. The 6940 at a local gunshow today was $ 1,289. I thought that was a fair price. A 6920 right next to it was $ 1,129. Enjoy the Acog. Barliman Of course you think $1289 for 6940 is a fair price because the guy was losing money on it. As long as you can take the wood to somebody its a good day right? Distributor cost on a 6940 is $1221. At $1289 the guy was making an outrageous .05% margin (.06% markup) if he was a distributor. Do us all a favor and stay on the East side of the Mississippi. Thanks! Anything under $1300 for a 6940 is outstanding. Don't worry about the proprietary barrel. ADCO and other smiths have the proprietary tools to work on them. There are several reports out there that the 6940 possesses superior accuracy anyways. You stag is probably a great gun. I have one myself as do several of my friends. But the Colt will be a step up in overall quality and accuracy. If you have the money, step up and do it. |
| Between my sons and myself we own 3 Colt 6940's along with many other AR type firearms. I don't regret for one minute buying mine. It has functioned flawlessly for thousands of rounds, I love the fold down BIS, it has plenty of rail space, spare parts are a plenty, and it's a versatile platform. The only drawback, according to others, is the proprietary barrel nut which doesn't bother me a bit. ADCO and others have the tools and Colt Customer Service took care of me the one time I had to send one back for service on the front gas block. There are many other great rifles in the price range, but I don't believe you will regret purchasing a 6940 for one minute. |
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Of course you think $1289 for 6940 is a fair price because the guy was losing money on it. As long as you can take the wood to somebody its a good day right?
Distributor cost on a 6940 is $1221. At $1289 the guy was making an outrageous .05% margin (.06% markup) if he was a distributor. Do us all a favor and stay on the East side of the Mississippi. Thanks! I have no idea what you're butt-hurt about.. unless you're one of the guys still trying to sell a 6940 for the rapacious sum of $1,700. 
Those days are gone, I'm happy to say. |
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"Distributor cost on a 6940 is $1221. At $1289 the guy was making an outrageous .05% margin (.06% markup) if he was a distributor. Do us all a favor and stay on the East side of the Mississippi. Thanks!" If the dealer is making a 5 - 6% margin, he chose the price point to offer. Another dealer down the way had a 6920 for $ 1,189 - but they are known to charge a little more ... and I have bought 2 guns from that dealer in the last 18 months. Honestly can't follow your reasoning on how I am taking the wood to somebody - you must feel Walmart is the most exploited company on the planet. Are the dealers hurting? I believe some are. I had a dealer today offer me an ITT tube PVS-14 night vision monocular he had shown at $ 3,500 for $ 3,000 out the door on a credit card purchase basis (local sales tax is 6.5 %). Who was getting the better part of the deal if I took it? Or back to the point I was responding to ... $ 1,700 is a 39% margin over the distributor price you quoted. Wasn't the potential purchaser getting the wood taken to him if he paid that price? Barliman |
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