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6/12/2010 8:34:58 AM EDT
Hello to all,

I want to have a new upper that's unique from all the rest. One of my choices was an "Dissapator" style upper. Has anyone shot one and can show a pic of what it might look like with a collapable stock????

Mail Clerk
6/12/2010 8:41:00 AM EDT
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6/12/2010 8:41:54 AM EDT
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In my opinion, dissipators look great with rifle length stocks.
6/12/2010 8:10:35 PM EDT
[#3]
plinkr415,

Thanks for the pic as that's exactly what I wanted to see. Has anyone had any experience shooting one??? Any issues with reliability?????

Impala
6/12/2010 11:43:58 PM EDT
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In my opinion, dissipators look great with rifle length stocks.


10-4 I think the adjustable stock make them look heavy on the front, & just plain weird looking.

Even though the OP did not ask for them, here is a pic of my Dissipator style AR (with A2 stock). Don't know what happened to the color, but it is finished in pre-ban gray.


I have had no issues with mine in the few hundred rounds I've put through it. It has a carbine length gas system, so it runs like a standard carbine.
6/13/2010 3:30:23 AM EDT
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Its not really a dissipater but I like posting this pic. It now has a Streamlite under the front instead of that huge heavy sucker on the side. The AFG was put on a heavier rifle with a quad rail where it was comfortable, and an MVG for an MOE was screwed on in its place with no rail.
6/13/2010 8:51:41 AM EDT
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No pictures, sorry guys, but I have a Bushmaster Dissapator with an A2 stock and it handles and shoots great....<><....:)
6/13/2010 12:12:31 PM EDT
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Hi guys/gals,

Thank you for your generous pics. I have been doing some homework on the "Dissapator" version and was wondering about the reliability issue. According to Bushmaster their version/gas bloclis located under the handguard so the front sight is in reality just a sight post only. Based on this new info I might be looking for another 14-16" barrel instead of the dissapator.  The price is another issue too.

Saber Defense has one that I'm interested in but the upper is well over priced outta my pocket book so thumbs down on that brand. Rock River has one simular that below 9 hundred so it's a possibility but still kinda outta my range. The biggest issue seems to be the hand-guard. WHY are they so high in price???

Impala
6/13/2010 3:23:54 PM EDT
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Hi guys/gals,
According to Bushmaster their version/gas bloclis located under the handguard so the front sight is in reality just a sight post only.

Correct.

6/13/2010 3:27:42 PM EDT
[#9]
just get a 16" middy and call it a day
6/13/2010 4:13:25 PM EDT
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A dissipator with a carbine length gas system is very reliable.
6/13/2010 4:35:22 PM EDT
[#11]
What buffer do you guys run in your dissipators with A2 stocks?
6/13/2010 6:01:52 PM EDT
[#12]
A2 stock, A2 standard rifle buffer.  CAR stock, your choice of CAR buffer or any of the now popular H buffers.  There is nothing mystical, mysterious, or even actually unique about them.  Most I have seen are just a 16 inch barrel, using a CAR position gas block or midlength gas block under the full length rifle handguard with a front sight mounted out on the end of the barrel.  While the front sight might look like a gas block, most are not functional.
They are neither any more nor any less reliable than their shorter handguard counterparts.
6/13/2010 7:06:32 PM EDT
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A2 stock, A2 standard rifle buffer.  CAR stock, your choice of CAR buffer or any of the now popular H buffers.  There is nothing mystical, mysterious, or even actually unique about them.  Most I have seen are just a 16 inch barrel, using a CAR position gas block or midlength gas block under the full length rifle handguard with a front sight mounted out on the end of the barrel.  While the front sight might look like a gas block, most are not functional.
They are neither any more nor any less reliable than their shorter handguard counterparts.

So with a carbine length gas system dissipator, you run a rifle length buffer?
6/13/2010 7:20:03 PM EDT
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This is my Custom Cruiser from ADCO.  Midlength dissy.

http://www.adcofirearms.com/itemdetails_.cfm?inventorynumber=2762

The Dissipator is the best KISS rifle.  As compact as you can get with the accuracy of pinned rifle length iron sites.

It's set up slightly different than the top pictures now.  The GS hand stop is in use, and the RVG is close to the mag well.








6/13/2010 7:28:55 PM EDT
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So with a carbine length gas system dissipator, you run a rifle length buffer?



The buffer has nothing to do with the barrel length. You run a carbine stock, you use a carbine buffer. Rifle length stock (like mine), uses a rifle length buffer.
6/13/2010 7:30:36 PM EDT
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I have a Bushy Dissy and mine is very accurate with irons and runs great.  It has the heavy barrel so its kinda heavy but like I wrote...it shoots very accurate.  My only bitch is the purple upper and its what used to be called a postban config.
6/13/2010 7:38:39 PM EDT
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So with a carbine length gas system dissipator, you run a rifle length buffer?



The buffer has nothing to do with the barrel length. You run a carbine stock, you use a carbine buffer. Rifle length stock (like mine), uses a rifle length buffer.

I know what you mean, but I figured that a carbine length gas system wouldn't work well with a rifle length buffer.
6/14/2010 6:33:17 AM EDT
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So with a carbine length gas system dissipator, you run a rifle length buffer?



The buffer has nothing to do with the barrel length. You run a carbine stock, you use a carbine buffer. Rifle length stock (like mine), uses a rifle length buffer.

I know what you mean, but I figured that a carbine length gas system wouldn't work well with a rifle length buffer.


Does that really make such a difference????

Impala
6/14/2010 6:36:04 AM EDT
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6/14/2010 8:06:37 AM EDT
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So with a carbine length gas system dissipator, you run a rifle length buffer?



The buffer has nothing to do with the barrel length. You run a carbine stock, you use a carbine buffer. Rifle length stock (like mine), uses a rifle length buffer.

I know what you mean, but I figured that a carbine length gas system wouldn't work well with a rifle length buffer.


Does that really make such a difference????

Impala


That's what I'm wondering.
6/14/2010 9:07:52 AM EDT
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Isn't yours also from ADCO?

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So with a carbine length gas system dissipator, you run a rifle length buffer?



The buffer has nothing to do with the barrel length. You run a carbine stock, you use a carbine buffer. Rifle length stock (like mine), uses a rifle length buffer.

I know what you mean, but I figured that a carbine length gas system wouldn't work well with a rifle length buffer.


Does that really make such a difference????

Impala


That's what I'm wondering.


The military has had issues putting carbine stocks on rifle gassed systems.  I'm not sure how it works the other way though.  I would guess it would be fine since a carbine is over gassed and the rifle buffer is heavier than a carbine.

Anyone know how the rifle buffer weight compares to an H1 or H2 buffer?
6/14/2010 9:53:00 AM EDT
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Isn't yours also from ADCO?

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So with a carbine length gas system dissipator, you run a rifle length buffer?



The buffer has nothing to do with the barrel length. You run a carbine stock, you use a carbine buffer. Rifle length stock (like mine), uses a rifle length buffer.

I know what you mean, but I figured that a carbine length gas system wouldn't work well with a rifle length buffer.


Does that really make such a difference????

Impala


That's what I'm wondering.


The military has had issues putting carbine stocks on rifle gassed systems.  I'm not sure how it works the other way though.  I would guess it would be fine since a carbine is over gassed and the rifle buffer is heavier than a carbine.

Anyone know how the rifle buffer weight compares to an H1 or H2 buffer?

That did cross my mind. I've been hearing about the Marine Corps' decision to switch to collapsible stocks on A4's.

The buffer weights are here.
6/14/2010 9:56:55 AM EDT
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Any more pics?


Damn I miss mine............
6/14/2010 10:46:28 AM EDT
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Anyone know how the rifle buffer weight compares to an H1 or H2 buffer?

Standard rifle buffer is in between H3 and 9mm in weight.  Rifle springs are also a little less springy.  Almost all ARs are so overgassed it's no problem at all to run a rifle buffer, and there are lighter weight rifle length buffers if need be.

Stock tube type has absolutely nothing to do with gas system or barrel length, the only possible difference might be a need to change buffer weight.  Since multiple weights are available in both buffer lengths this is a non issue.
6/14/2010 6:00:57 PM EDT
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Hi guys,

OK explain the different buffer weights and why do we need different weights???? Is it designed to slow OR make the bolt carrier cycle faster-slower???? I had thought the buffer tubes were all the same size/length and the buffer is a standard size.

Impala
6/14/2010 6:14:37 PM EDT
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I like the A1 stock on my dissy uppers.

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