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Posted: 1/14/2010 10:32:58 AM EDT
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Looking to buy my first AR-15. I was looking at a Bushmaster A3 16" barrel from a local dealer near me for around $975. But i was also looking at a DPMS Panther AR-15 A3 16" barrel for $699. But thats online so, $699 + $30 shipping + $50 FFL Transfer, so total roughly $780.
How does the DPMS Panther match up against the Bushmaster? Is it a good gun? |
| Save up a little for colt 6920 , or get a rock river either one would be great , but dpms over bushy in my opinion bushmaster = barrel indexing problems, purple anodizing on receivers , and lousy/nonexistent customer service that was then this is now those things may have changed. |
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Save up a little for colt 6920 , or get a rock river either one would be great , but dpms over bushy in my opinion bushmaster = barrel indexing problems, purple anodizing on receivers , and lousy/nonexistent customer service that was then this is now those things may have changed. How many Bushmasters have you owned?
I have two Bushmaster uppers and they've both run flawless after many thousands of rounds and hard use in a couple of classes. I"ve also used two other Bushmaster uppers for builds I've done for friends. Both of those guys have also had great luck with theirs as well. They got a bad rep several years ago when they had a few problems but they're fine now and have been for awhile. |
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Save up a little for colt 6920 , or get a rock river either one would be great , but dpms over bushy in my opinion bushmaster = barrel indexing problems, purple anodizing on receivers , and lousy/nonexistent customer service that was then this is now those things may have changed. How many Bushmasters have you owned?
I have two Bushmaster uppers and they've both run flawless after many thousands of rounds and hard use in a couple of classes. I"ve also used two other Bushmaster uppers for builds I've done for friends. Both of those guys have also had great luck with theirs as well. They got a bad rep several years ago when they had a few problems but they're fine now and have been for awhile. personally never owned any but I used to shoot with a group of guys and have seen most of the problems with my own eyes cant run from the facts |
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OP you are going to get a huge variety of opinions on your question. I have owned or own Colt, RRA, Bushmaster as well as built guns from various parts suppliers. First thing is what are you going to use it for? If like most of us you will be target shooting and maybe giving the coyotes hell, either DPMS or the BM will do nicely. If you plan on killing afgans with it you need to think BCM or Colt. There are a bunch of cool aid drinkers here who will try to convince you that their way is the only way. Not all ARs are created equal and you do get what you pay for, but unless you are going to be using it for professional reasons you will probably never see the difference. |
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OP you are going to get a huge variety of opinions on your question. I have owned or own Colt, RRA, Bushmaster as well as built guns from various parts suppliers. First thing is what are you going to use it for? If like most of us you will be target shooting and maybe giving the coyotes hell, either DPMS or the BM will do nicely. If you plan on killing afgans with it you need to think BCM or Colt. There are a bunch of cool aid drinkers here who will try to convince you that their way is the only way. Not all ARs are created equal and you do get what you pay for, but unless you are going to be using it for professional reasons you will probably never see the difference. Very well put Mikey Find another FFL, $50.00 is a little high.... The FFL's I use are 20-25 dollars. That will save you a little for an extra mag, grip, etc............ Just my 2 cent |
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Save up a little for colt 6920 , or get a rock river either one would be great , but dpms over bushy in my opinion bushmaster = barrel indexing problems, purple anodizing on receivers , and lousy/nonexistent customer service that was then this is now those things may have changed. Ok 6920 I can see. But DPMS over Bushmaster? You'd rather have a improperly drilled gas port or tight chamber than a simple index issue which is easy to fix? In my 14 years of dealing with Bushmaster I've never had a customer service issue with them. |
| My bushmaster that is a little over a year old has been great. has a chromed bolt and bcg. My gas key and castle nut were both actually properly staked. I got the one with the 14.5" m4 barrel and it is 4150 steel. So the only thing not really milspec about the gun is the commercial buffer tube. I dont see anything wrong with the newer bushies. |
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My bushmaster that is a little over a year old has been great. has a chromed bolt and bcg. My gas key and castle nut were both actually properly staked. I got the one with the 14.5" m4 barrel and it is 4150 steel. So the only thing not really milspec about the gun is the commercial buffer tube. I dont see anything wrong with the newer bushies. I agree on all accounts. My extended feedramps are also flawless. I realize that ARFCOM is swinging from Bravo Company's nuts right now and I personally would really llike to own one of their midlengths someday, but I have no regrets with my Bushy uppers. |
| I have never fired a dpms but I do l.ike my ol mans bushy. Although he probably hasn't fired enough rounds out of it ( maybe a hundred or so). So it's not even broken in. I personally would rather have a double star for that low amount of money. I think they are great guns for the price. |
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I'd get the bushmaster over the dpms.
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OP you are going to get a huge variety of opinions on your question. I have owned or own Colt, RRA, Bushmaster as well as built guns from various parts suppliers. First thing is what are you going to use it for? If like most of us you will be target shooting and maybe giving the coyotes hell, either DPMS or the BM will do nicely. If you plan on killing afgans with it you need to think BCM or Colt. There are a bunch of cool aid drinkers here who will try to convince you that their way is the only way. Not all ARs are created equal and you do get what you pay for, but unless you are going to be using it for professional reasons you will probably never see the difference. He summed it up well. For cheaper rifles I'd look at stag, rra, smith and wesson, and some others that people will chime in with as well. If you can find a colt 6920 for a good price(not sure what the ny laws are so I'm guessing it would need some work to be legal) it will hold a higher resell value and be a better gun. For basic range use I don't think you will see a difference. |
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... How does the DPMS Panther match up against the Bushmaster? Is it a good gun? In my experience the Bushmaster is the better rifle, less likely to have issues. However, if you're only looking at occasional plinking and informal target shooting the DPMS will serve you fine. I must be blind as I didn't notice you're from NY - so that removes the 6920 from your options, but you could get the AWB legal equivalent the Colt MT6400C which is as close as Colt gets to a AWB compliant 6920. |
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