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Posted: 1/3/2010 11:49:10 AM EDT
Just throwin' it out there. FWIW, this convinced me to buy one of the real thing. Also, you periodically see pics of guys in Iraq/Afghanistan running around like this, though usually just to hang onto their CH while using optics. |
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Put it on the strong side and sell it as a new 3 Gun set up......LOL
Honestly, yes it is with the rifle, however now you have to remove two sets of screws and redo one to replace your optic....Whatever works I guess....I will stick with the LMT or MATECH behind my EOTech. |
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... you periodically see pics of guys in Iraq/Afghanistan running around like this, though usually just to hang onto their CH while using optics. None of the M4's issued to my company even came with a carry handle. They were all equipped with either an Aimpoint M2 and Matech BUIS, or an ACOG. I don't recall ever seeing anyone on camp with a carry handle either, except the few still carrying M16A2's. Kind of amusing for me, as an ARNG transporter, to have a carbine which I will never fire, while some of the RA cav guys are stuck with rifles. Another entry on the endless list of "The Army makes no sense." |
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I have heard that it is so if the optic goes down the handle that belongs to the rifle and it sighted in is already there and wont get lost. ummm.... why not use a BUIS? Some units, are/were issued carry handles as a BUIS. Occasionally, you'll see pictures of military folks with the CH hanging from the rail. Also, for personally owned weapons, not everybody has a lot of disposable cash, if the rifle came with the CH, and they've gone to optics, it's a way to have the CH available and have more money for food, rent, ammo, etc until they can afford to replace it. |
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I have heard that it is so if the optic goes down the handle that belongs to the rifle and it sighted in is already there and wont get lost. ummm.... why not use a BUIS? Some units, are/were issued carry handles as a BUIS. Occasionally, you'll see pictures of military folks with the CH hanging from the rail. Also, for personally owned weapons, not everybody has a lot of disposable cash, if the rifle came with the CH, and they've gone to optics, it's a way to have the CH available and have more money for food, rent, ammo, etc until they can afford to replace it. Exactly. You do what you can with what is given you. |
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I just realized i should use my chopped carry handle sight as a hand stop that way i also have my buis staying with the rifle. nevermind, it looks retarded lol So what. It works. Try different spots on the rails. You could even put it on the top rail forward of the optic. I've seen that done with great effect. |
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I think the reason they use the handle like that in the sandbox is because they are usually running an optic on the top rail without a BUIS and if they optic died they can just swap it out. I've only seen pictures of Marines attaching the carry handle like that. LOL that is probably because the Corps doesn't just give out the cool extra's like little BUIS like the Army does. All about adapt and over come with what you have. Semper Gumbie... 
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I've heard of some people who use an LT-103 for a hand stop for this exact reason.
If your optics ever shit the bed you can pop on a rear BUIS with Larue repeatability. If you're running an AFG on anything other than a carbine-length rail there's plenty of room behind it. |
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I think the reason they use the handle like that in the sandbox is because they are usually running an optic on the top rail without a BUIS and if they optic died they can just swap it out. I've only seen pictures of Marines attaching the carry handle like that. LOL that is probably because the Corps doesn't just give out the cool extra's like little BUIS like the Army does. All about adapt and over come with what you have. Semper Gumbie... A4s procured after 07 come with the BUIS and no carrying handle. |
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Maybe Magpul should add a built in backup sight to the AFG. <shrug> ... That's... actually not the worst idea I've ever heard. Just a pistol-style square rear slot would work. Heck, you could even have a little slide-up post up front somewhere, forward of the hand surface. Supinated sights! 
Hey, if JP can sell pistol sights for ARs... |
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I have heard that it is so if the optic goes down the handle that belongs to the rifle and it sighted in is already there and wont get lost. ummm.... why not use a BUIS? Some units, are/were issued carry handles as a BUIS. Occasionally, you'll see pictures of military folks with the CH hanging from the rail. Also, for personally owned weapons, not everybody has a lot of disposable cash, if the rifle came with the CH, and they've gone to optics, it's a way to have the CH available and have more money for food, rent, ammo, etc until they can afford to replace it. This sounds like a silly explanation for an even sillier idea. For a soldier, sure, you do with what you're given. For Joe civilian, if you cant afford food / rent / ammo why do you have a $1000 rifle? And if you can afford a $1000 rifle, spend another $50 on BUIS in case your $500 optic goes down. |
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I have heard that it is so if the optic goes down the handle that belongs to the rifle and it sighted in is already there and wont get lost. ummm.... why not use a BUIS? Some units, are/were issued carry handles as a BUIS. Occasionally, you'll see pictures of military folks with the CH hanging from the rail. Also, for personally owned weapons, not everybody has a lot of disposable cash, if the rifle came with the CH, and they've gone to optics, it's a way to have the CH available and have more money for food, rent, ammo, etc until they can afford to replace it. This sounds like a silly explanation for an even sillier idea. For a soldier, sure, you do with what you're given. For Joe civilian, if you cant afford food / rent / ammo why do you have a $1000 rifle? And if you can afford a $1000 rifle, spend another $50 on BUIS in case your $500 optic goes down. Or just keep your CH handy
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Also, for personally owned weapons, not everybody has a lot of disposable cash, if the rifle came with the CH, and they've gone to optics, it's a way to have the CH available and have more money for food, rent, ammo, etc until they can afford to replace it. This sounds like a silly explanation for an even sillier idea. For a soldier, sure, you do with what you're given. For Joe civilian, if you cant afford food / rent / ammo why do you have a $1000 rifle? And if you can afford a $1000 rifle, spend another $50 on BUIS in case your $500 optic goes down. I didn't say it was a great idea. It's an option. I did think about it when I posted, I personally couldn't see buying a rail over a buis, and I couldn't think of an AR that come with a rail and just a carry handle for a sight. But, one thing I've learned about this board, and ARs is that to never assume that I know of every possible combination. It could happen. I don't think it's likely, but it's possible. Do you want me to justify it? I can think of several examples, but I don't really see the point in spelling it out. My point was simply that it's an option if you find yourself in that situation. And to not judge someone when you don't know the whole story. As an aside, when I got into ARs the cheapest BUIS for a flat-top was a Carry Handle, the next cheapest option for a good rear sight was about 100 dollars. |
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Now that makes sense. Particularly if you have a short eye-relief ACOG and need all the rear rail space you can get. I might just have to add that BUIS to my list. |
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