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9/9/2009 4:11:11 PM EDT
I have heard of a couple people screwing up their rails by over tightening the screw in the for the KAC rails. I didn't have a torque screwdriver available so I used a allen. My question is is it apparent that you have screwed them up. Everything went to plan and installed fine. I would just hate to be at the range when something went wrong. I would figure overtorque would strip it and you would be able to tell that right off the bat right?
9/9/2009 4:22:22 PM EDT
[#1]
yes.
9/9/2009 4:59:15 PM EDT
[#2]
The only thing I have heard of is the screw breaking off, or the clamp breaking where the screw goes in if over tightened.
Hand tight is fine.
9/9/2009 5:05:43 PM EDT
[#3]
Dude it does not need to be way tight.  If your bolt carrier still slides in with ease you have not put pressure on the gas tube so you should be good however tight you have it.  With a allen wrench all you need to use is loctite and the short handle.
9/9/2009 5:18:38 PM EDT
[#4]
I have a pdf of RAS install guide sent to me from a Knights rep.  It states:

CAUTION: Do not over tighten screw.  Tighten screw only "finger tight" or just 20-inch lbs.


If anyone wants to see it email me.
9/9/2009 5:20:54 PM EDT
[#5]
Use loctite and common sense.
9/9/2009 6:15:13 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
Use loctite and common sense.


I think everything is just fine then because I followed your directions to a T. Although I never thought of the putting to much stress on the gas system ill check that out later.

9/9/2009 6:19:43 PM EDT
[#7]
Yep torque to 20 inch pounds, or you can just use the short end of an allen wrench.   Your just not supposed to tighten past the point of initial metal to metal contact.  The screw already comes with a patch of thread sealant so you shouldn't need to add anything.
9/10/2009 5:17:33 AM EDT
[#8]
I bought mine off the ee used so the thread seal had worn off. So how do you tell its putting pressure on the gas tube? It just doesn't go into battery smoothly or at all?
9/10/2009 6:34:56 AM EDT
[#9]
If you took the rail off and put the screw into the hole and tightened it all the way you will see that it goes thru the hole and into the channel that the tube fits.  If you tube rides high in the channel you will put pressure on the tube.
You check by taking the bolt out of the carrier and with the rail in place, just let the carrier slide in the upper.  If it binds, tighten or loosen the screw till the bind is gone.
9/10/2009 6:35:08 AM EDT
[#10]
Just got home and check everything out. Everything seems to be running fine with the gas tube. I had to put an H buffer in it so while the upper was off I slid the bolt back and forth and it locked up tight with no problem. Then I locked it back an hit the bolt release and it all went into battery fine so I figure im ok. Ill know for sure this weekend though. Any thing else I should look for?
9/10/2009 6:43:22 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
If you took the rail off and put the screw into the hole and tightened it all the way you will see that it goes thru the hole and into the channel that the tube fits.  If you tube rides high in the channel you will put pressure on the tube.
You check by taking the bolt out of the carrier and with the rail in place, just let the carrier slide in the upper.  If it binds, tighten or loosen the screw till the bind is gone.


I posted right before you did.  Here's what I did, I  had to install my H buffer so I popped out the rear takedown pin and put the H buffer in. Before putting the two halves back together I took the CH out and put the bcg back in. I just placed the bcg in the upper and let gravity do the work and it popped in there every time. Then I matted the upper to the lower and worked the action with the CH and bolt release. Im thinking this is a case closed. Everything sound gtg scottrh2?
9/10/2009 6:55:24 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Use loctite and common sense.


The KAC screw already has blue loctite on it.  The KAC is a little bit of a pain to install.  But overtightening the screw to the point of damage is plain old retardation.
9/10/2009 6:58:21 AM EDT
[#13]
Well I bought mine used so it had just a little of the sealant left on the screw. I just used blue locktite and tightened it down snug. I used the small end of the allen wrench and ran some function test on the bolt to make sure I didnt put any stress on the gas tube so I think im good to go.
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