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8/11/2009 11:20:59 AM EDT
I need a new trigger for my AR...I have the RRA 24" Bull Varmint upper with a DPMS standard A2 stock lower.
The mil spec trigger while being OK for a regular trigger, needs upgrading bad.  This is a target gun, hope to get some Prairie Dogs and Coyotes soon as well.  

Here's the deal, I have spent way too much on AR stuff and only want to spend as little as possible.  If spending 150 gets me a much better trigger than $100 then i will spend it but I don't want to spend the $150 for a marginally better trigger.   Is the standard RRA 2 stage good for $100 or would it be better to go with a Jard / JP Enterprise trigger for a little more?  

I would appreciate any feedback.

8/11/2009 11:27:36 AM EDT
[#1]
the RRA 2 stage has good reviews. for a little more $ i might go for the JP.
8/11/2009 11:40:59 AM EDT
[#2]
Get a Bill Springfield trigger job done. One week turnaround. $35 you won't regret spending.

Search here for Bill Springfield and you'll find lots of posts about his work and happy customers.



http://triggerwork.net/ar15s.html






8/11/2009 11:57:31 AM EDT
[#3]
A lot of it depends on what you want to do with the rifle.  I put an RRA 2-stage in a couple of rifles, and they're very nice for general shooting - quite clean and crisp.

However, if I were doing actual target/varmint work, and didn't need to meet "service rifle" criteria, I'd look for something lighter in pull, or at least have it worked on.  It all depends on whether you're looking for something measured in pounds or in ounces.  Since you have a "varmint-ish" setup, I could see it going either way.
8/11/2009 12:01:03 PM EDT
[#4]
I am not sure what retail is on them but I put the skeletonized timmneys in my ARs and they are awesome triggers.
8/12/2009 12:13:50 AM EDT
[#5]
Thanks for the info.  I may have to check out Bill Springfield... that sounds perfect....  Worst case scenario its not light enough for me and I install it on one of my 3 other AR's that need trigger upgrades.

The RRA 2 stage is $100 and the JP is about $135 and is single stage.  Since the JP is adjustable I am leaning towards that... I don't know though..

Timney triggers are nice but I can't afford that right now and I personally would not pay extra for a skeletonized trigger.
8/12/2009 12:23:54 AM EDT
[#6]
I have used the Bushmaster 2 stage match, RRA 2 stage match, the KAC 2 stage match (non adjustable), Chip McCormick match, and the CMMG 2 stage match.  By far my most favorite for varmint shooting is the CMMG trigger group.
8/12/2009 12:24:56 AM EDT
[#7]
RRA 2-stage is great, definitely get what you pay for.  I'm very happy with mine.  Great trigger pull for the money.
8/12/2009 9:36:08 AM EDT
[#8]
I don't think you would go wrong with either Bill Springfield or the JP set up. I've had a couple of Rock Rivers also. The only complaint I have with them is they tend to "loosen up" after a few hundred rounds or at least that was my experience. I have two of the JP's with their Speed Hammer set up. They are very nice triggers. They can be a little time consuming to get everything just right particularly if you need to adjust the safety selector (grinding the trigger bar) and time the disconnecter (grinding the disconnecter tip). Not all JP's will require the whole 9 yards. Some fit certain receivers better than others. That said, I believe that Bill will give you a comparable trigger for a lot less change. I've taken a look at his work and talked with him via email. He's given me the confidence to do my own triggers. The JP's may end up costing more than the $135 you mentioned should you end up needing a Speed Hammer due to light strikes. Like I said the JP's are very nice triggers but now that I've done a fair number of triggers myself, I probably wouldn't tell you to spend the money on a JP unless it were truly a target rifle and you were looking for a sub 3 lb. pull.


 
8/12/2009 9:43:41 AM EDT
[#9]
bill springfield can do make your trigger break crisp at 3lbs for 50 bucks. im gonna ship mine to him next week.
8/12/2009 9:49:37 AM EDT
[#10]
double tap
8/12/2009 10:04:48 AM EDT
[#11]
I have a Timney 3lb. trigger on my Stag/WOA and am very happy with it.  But when I got my LaRue, I put a Geiselle SSA on it and that is the best trigger I've ever used...
8/12/2009 11:01:07 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
I have a Timney 3lb. trigger on my Stag/WOA and am very happy with it.  But when I got my LaRue, I put a Geiselle SSA on it and that is the best trigger I've ever used...


Yeah i would love a Geiselle but due to funds these guys have me convinced on Springfield...

The question is how many of my triggers do I send him??  3 lbs seems like it might be a tad light for my 6.8 SPC Carbine for deer hunting.  I have heard a few more pounds is typically recommended for large game hunting rifle.
8/12/2009 12:18:55 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
I need a new trigger for my AR...I have the RRA 24" Bull Varmint upper with a DPMS standard A2 stock lower.
The mil spec trigger while being OK for a regular trigger, needs upgrading bad.  This is a target gun, hope to get some Prairie Dogs and Coyotes soon as well.  

Here's the deal, I have spent way too much on AR stuff and only want to spend as little as possible.  If spending 150 gets me a much better trigger than $100 then i will spend it but I don't want to spend the $150 for a marginally better trigger.   Is the standard RRA 2 stage good for $100 or would it be better to go with a Jard / JP Enterprise trigger for a little more?  

I would appreciate any feedback.



Get a RRA tuned from White Oak and never look back...$120....

8/12/2009 7:18:19 PM EDT
[#14]
For hunting to 4lb from Bill.
8/12/2009 7:21:41 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
For hunting to 4lb from Bill.


plus its $15 cheaper
8/12/2009 7:31:42 PM EDT
[#16]
A RRA NM trigger tuned by Bill Springfield is amazing. I have tuned my own, but Bill's work is flat out top notch. Made my work feel like a HS Freshman's compared to an Ivy League Grad.
8/13/2009 10:00:45 AM EDT
[#17]
I put a Timney 3# trigger in my 24" and love it....super crisp and breaks clean under 3# every time.

Love mine....and figured the extra money was worth it for a one time purchse for this gun.
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