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Posted: 6/10/2009 2:04:32 PM EDT
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I've got an article up on four different manufacturers Back-Up Iron Sights
BUIS article check it out and share your thoughts/questions |
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Quoted: I have an MBUS and it's not real easy to turn the windage knob. It's a great part, you should beef up the review on it if you can. i think that is by design. as stated in the article: The need for a large A2-style windage knob on a back-up sight is i agree w/ the above statement as once i have a rifle sighted in windage wise especially, i will never change it. i like the fact that the mbus is hard to move back forth so it doesn't accidentally get rotated.lost on me. Do people really plan on firing far enough with a simple fixed battlesight that they need to dial windage corrections in? In my opinion, a rifleman is much more likely to accidentally rotate that bulky knob than to need to make hasty adjustments in the field. op - prices are now available for the mbus... |
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I have an MBUS and it's not real easy to turn the windage knob. It's a great part, you should beef up the review on it if you can. i think that is by design. as stated in the article: The need for a large A2-style windage knob on a back-up sight islost on me. Do people really plan on firing far enough with a simplefixed battlesight that they need to dial windage corrections in? In myopinion, a rifleman is much more likely to accidentally rotate thatbulky knob than to need to make hasty adjustments in the field. i agree w/ the above statement as once i have a rifle sighted in windage wise especially, i will never change it. i like the fact that the mbus is hard to move back forth so it doesn't accidentally get rotated.
op - prices are now available for the mbus... I only had a preproduction MBUS available for review. Drake is shipping me a production one and I'll do a full review on it when it arrives. |
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yeah seriously, they mos def forgot about Troy.
Has anyone had any experience with the Magpul irons? I'm assuming theyre in production and are available to the public but i could be wrong??? Even if they aren't, im sure atleast one of you has gotten your hands on em 
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Before you pass judgement on the GG&G MADD sight, have you tried the newer version with the ranging apeture set-up.
The locking design is supposed to be improved. For a simple back up iron sight with no lock upright feature and simple A1 type sight adjustment, I would recommend you check out the Hahn Precision offering. It wouldn't hurt to add your observations on the military issue Matech back up sight. HTH |
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I won't be buying the MBUS, they take up too much space on the rail. Did you exclude KAC, ARMS and Troy, the long standing and well established sights, but include some of the less well known ones like Kiser Munitions and Midwest for a reason? Just wondering. Yes......I've written multiple articles on the Troy, LaRue, KAC and ARMS sights in the past.... |
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I have an MBUS and it's not real easy to turn the windage knob. It's a great part, you should beef up the review on it if you can. i think that is by design. as stated in the article: The need for a large A2-style windage knob on a back-up sight islost on me. Do people really plan on firing far enough with a simplefixed battlesight that they need to dial windage corrections in? In myopinion, a rifleman is much more likely to accidentally rotate thatbulky knob than to need to make hasty adjustments in the field. i agree w/ the above statement as once i have a rifle sighted in windage wise especially, i will never change it. i like the fact that the mbus is hard to move back forth so it doesn't accidentally get rotated.
op - prices are now available for the mbus... Even with a back-up sight you would want it sighted in - how else could you adjust windage? |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I have an MBUS and it's not real easy to turn the windage knob. It's a great part, you should beef up the review on it if you can. i think that is by design. as stated in the article: The need for a large A2-style windage knob on a back-up sight islost on me. Do people really plan on firing far enough with a simplefixed battlesight that they need to dial windage corrections in? In myopinion, a rifleman is much more likely to accidentally rotate thatbulky knob than to need to make hasty adjustments in the field. i agree w/ the above statement as once i have a rifle sighted in windage wise especially, i will never change it. i like the fact that the mbus is hard to move back forth so it doesn't accidentally get rotated.op - prices are now available for the mbus... Even with a back-up sight you would want it sighted in - how else could you adjust windage? ??? you can adjust windage on the mbus w/ a knob, it takes a bit of effort to turn the knob, so sighting in is a non issue, it is that it is not really easy to move the knob and for me this is a benefit. it moves and clicks ok, but i don't see you using it for windage adjustments when out shooting. after it is set/sighted in from a bench or however you sight in your setup, i see it staying at that spot. |
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Even with a back-up sight you would want it sighted in - how else could you adjust windage?
With a screw. Or at minimum, with a knob that can be locked or disengaged. ARMS 40 / LMT 14.5 M4 ARMS 40Lsp / LMT 14.5 M4 Didnt need any L or R adjustments Both are dead center |
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Good article, but I would have liked them to be compared with the Troy and Matech/ KAC BUIS. How about an article on fixed BUIS next time like, LMT, LaRue, new Daniel Defense, new Troy, etc. 
Man I would hate to be a writer hell there are so many AR parts out there |
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I won't be buying the MBUS, they take up too much space on the rail. Did you exclude KAC, ARMS and Troy, the long standing and well established sights, but include some of the less well known ones like Kiser Munitions and Midwest for a reason? Just wondering. They don't take up that much space. I've seen a list of dimensions for many BUIS and the MBUS wasn't the smallest but it wasn't the largest either. |
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I won't be buying the MBUS, they take up too much space on the rail. Did you exclude KAC, ARMS and Troy, the long standing and well established sights, but include some of the less well known ones like Kiser Munitions and Midwest for a reason? Just wondering. They don't take up that much space. I've seen a list of dimensions for many BUIS and the MBUS wasn't the smallest but it wasn't the largest either. I like the MBUS and don't think they take up too much space. But then again, some guys rails are longer than others... 
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Good article, but I would have liked them to be compared with the Troy and Matech/ KAC BUIS. How about an article on fixed BUIS next time like, LMT, LaRue, new Daniel Defense, new Troy, etc.
Man I would hate to be a writer hell there are so many AR parts out there The more parts the better for us consumers and a good job security for gun writers. 
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there may be an issue if you wanted to keep your optic on the upper itself along w/ a magnifirer w/ the mbus, but you could probably squeeze them all on there w/ a cantilever mount. IMO, I don't think MBUS is targeted at those kinds of users. The way I see it, MBUS is targeted at those looking to keep costs down and/or their rifles light. MBUS succeeds there. For those who have the $$$ and the need/desire to have a magnified setup on their rail, they are probably less sensitive to price. That is, they'll spend the extra $50-$100 on a #40L or Troy unit and not blink since they have $500 into their M3 and $400 into the magnifier for it, along with $200 in LaRue mounts for them. Just MHO.
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How many rail spaces does the MBUS take up? Two? If so, that's one too many for me. I'm a 4x32 ACOG user, I went through a few mounts until I found one that would finally place the 4X32 ACOG as close to my eyes as possible, with a BUIS.
The arrangement calls for both the BUIS and mount to play nice to create a rear most mounting position. The LaRue ACOG mount can place the ACOG ahead of a KAC 300M, 600M and Troy with little space in between, but with a Matech, though it only takes up one rail space., due to its height, the ACOG has to be mounted further ahead. 
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How many rail spaces does the MBUS take up? Two? If so, that's one too many for me. I'm a 4x32 ACOG user, I went through a few mounts until I found one that would finally place the 4X32 ACOG as close to my eyes as possible, with a BUIS. The arrangement calls for both the BUIS and mount to play nice to create a rear most mounting position. The LaRue ACOG mount can place the ACOG ahead of a KAC 300M, 600M and Troy with little space in between, but with a Matech, though it only takes up one rail space., due to its height, the ACOG has to be mounted further ahead. http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i314/Duffypoo/kaccloseup.jpg Huh?? I think you mean due to the Matech's length and positioning on the rail, the ACOG has to be mounted one slot further forward than when using the KAC BUS. And this is a profoundly reasonable justication for having an adjustable rear stock assembly on any rifle. A collapsing and multi positional stock doesn't make a rifle more deadly, well yes it does because now you can better fuzzy up to your sights, it also makes the rifle more user friendly. |
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