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6/1/2009 5:05:53 AM EDT
I like this model
watching the mil chan last nite
the GI was shooting 500M with eotech/mag  ( dont like the optics )
he was hitting the target very well


is the barrel 11.5 ?

whats the model #
6/1/2009 5:12:54 AM EDT
[#1]
I was watching that to. The barrel was short but don't remember the length exactly. Why don't you like the Eotech + mag. Just put one on my AR after trying a bunch of other optics ....even the ACOG. Really like the performance, versatility. Don't care for batteries....but keep extra set in the grip.
6/1/2009 5:27:24 AM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
I was watching that to. The barrel was short but don't remember the length exactly. Why don't you like the Eotech + mag. Just put one on my AR after trying a bunch of other optics ....even the ACOG. Really like the performance, versatility. Don't care for batteries....but keep extra set in the grip.




I bought my second aimpoint ML2 in 2001    allways works   ML2/Larue mount on Defender 2000 14.5 M4

Bought 551 Eotech 4 yrs ago for my back up LMT 14.5 w/ bushmaster lower

Okay

I found my eotech dead 3 times with new batts BATTERY DRAIN
So I cant trust it!

Talk to Pat Rogers he is in the know   (CHECK WHAT PARTS BRAKE up above topic)  or IM Pat
Pats seen many problems!!



Crooked mounting
Falling off rail
Battery Drain

This is my take alone
My 551 got like over 10 screws and made of plastic type material
so water could can get in the battery compartment
and with all the screws I could see a problem
Eotech will shut off and wont stay on 24/7
and my Battery drain wich is my # 1 beef



I think if eotech gets the buggs work out it will be a outstanding optic


I kept my 551 since its on my back up M4
and for range shooting its  GTG

I shoot the same size groups with both ML2/551 from 0 to 220y

ALSO  I have to say when I buy DURACELL N batts they seem to work well
but other brands I had problems


But to trust one with MY LIFE I will pass for now and stick with aimpoint of any tatical model
6/1/2009 5:27:55 AM EDT
[#3]
BTW

man that GI was shooting tight
6/1/2009 5:31:35 AM EDT
[#4]
M4 Colt Commando
733 Series
11.5" barrel
6/1/2009 5:32:02 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
M4 Colt Commando
733 Series
11.5" barrel


thanks

6/1/2009 5:46:40 AM EDT
[#6]




Quoted:



Quoted:

I was watching that to. The barrel was short but don't remember the length exactly. Why don't you like the Eotech + mag. Just put one on my AR after trying a bunch of other optics ....even the ACOG. Really like the performance, versatility. Don't care for batteries....but keep extra set in the grip.

I bought my second aimpoint ML2 in 2001 allways works ML2/Larue mount on Defender 2000 14.5 M4



Bought 551 Eotech 4 yrs ago for my back up LMT 14.5 w/ bushmaster lower



Okay



I found my eotech dead 3 times with new batts BATTERY DRAIN

So I cant trust it!



Talk to Pat Rogers he is in the know (CHECK WHAT PARTS BRAKE up above topic) or IM Pat

Pats seen many problems!!
Crooked mounting

Falling off rail

Battery Drain



This is my take alone

My 551 got like over 10 screws and made of plastic type material

so water could can get in the battery compartment

and with all the screws I could see a problem

Eotech will shut off and wont stay on 24/7

and my Battery drain wich is my # 1 beef
I think if eotech gets the buggs work out it will be a outstanding optic





I kept my 551 since its on my back up M4

and for range shooting its GTG



I shoot the same size groups with both ML2/551 from 0 to 220y



ALSO I have to say when I buy DURACELL N batts they seem to work well

but other brands I had problems





But to trust one with MY LIFE I will pass for now and stick with aimpoint of any tatical model



thanks for the input. I got the 557, had been looking at for a while. I did have to "play" with it for a little to get the mount to feel good and tight. They could probably still work on that. Don't want to be a battery salesman, but I would have to agree with you 100% on the Duracell's. Have to pass that on to anyone else looking at these optics. Don't put bargain batteries in good optics.


6/1/2009 6:04:43 AM EDT
[#7]
Energiziers N   caused it twice
Cheap radio shak N 1st time


My eotech hasnt fell off

I like the Fact that when you buy a Eotech that you dont have to shop for a mount


alot of good things going for it
6/1/2009 6:43:56 AM EDT
[#8]
I like to keep my Colt M4 Commando simple:

6/1/2009 6:49:27 AM EDT
[#9]




Quoted:

I like to keep my Colt M4 Commando simple:



http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd9/ed1991A1/5.jpg




 beautiful gun. tight groups at 500yds are tougher with iron sights though.....aren't they? maybe just my old eyes.
6/1/2009 6:55:29 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:

Quoted:
I like to keep my Colt M4 Commando simple:

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd9/ed1991A1/5.jpg


 beautiful gun. tight groups at 500yds are tougher with iron sights though.....aren't they? maybe just my old eyes.


Never tried it that far. I get tight groups at half that distance though with and without the aid of optics. Thanks.

6/1/2009 6:57:32 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
I like to keep my Colt M4 Commando simple:

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd9/ed1991A1/5.jpg



Nice !!!

Best  set uf for HD/Protection

I would give up my GO TO LMT 14.5 defendeR 2000


and add my KAC RAS  Aimpoint/Larue SOPMD



6/1/2009 6:59:59 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Quoted:

Quoted:
I like to keep my Colt M4 Commando simple:

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd9/ed1991A1/5.jpg


 beautiful gun. tight groups at 500yds are tougher with iron sights though.....aren't they? maybe just my old eyes.


Never tried it that far. I get tight groups at half that distance though with and without the aid of optics. Thanks.





accuracy wise barrel length dont matter

unless I shoot irons only


One of these days I will do the paper work
6/1/2009 9:09:19 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
I like to keep my Colt M4 Commando simple:

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd9/ed1991A1/5.jpg

Very nice!

I don't think I've ever seen a Commando with a bayonet lug.

6/1/2009 9:51:50 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
I like to keep my Colt M4 Commando simple:

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd9/ed1991A1/5.jpg


I'm in love

...if only I could have such nice things here on the left-coast

-RH
6/1/2009 3:06:13 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I like to keep my Colt M4 Commando simple:

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd9/ed1991A1/5.jpg

Very nice!

I don't think I've ever seen a Commando with a bayonet lug.



The FSB with the bayonet lug is a spare lying around in my parts bin. I decided to change it out since I have a bayonet lying around also. Better to have one when you don't need it than have none when you need it.

6/1/2009 3:12:15 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
I like to keep my Colt M4 Commando simple:

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd9/ed1991A1/5.jpg

Very nice!

I don't think I've ever seen a Commando with a bayonet lug.



The FSB with the bayonet lug is a spare lying around in my parts bin. I decided to change it out since I have a bayonet lying around also. Better to have one when you don't need it than have none when you need it.



the M4 11.5 comes without lug?

6/1/2009 3:32:37 PM EDT
[#17]
Since there is not enough distance between the FSB and the flash-hider, the ring on the bayonet has nothing to go over. Thus the bayonet won't be sturdy on there. Thus, Colt doesn't put lugged FSBs on anything shorter than 14.5" and have been doing so since the mid 1960's...

-RH
6/1/2009 3:59:34 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
Since there is not enough distance between the FSB and the flash-hider, the ring on the bayonet has nothing to go over. Thus the bayonet won't be sturdy on there. Thus, Colt doesn't put lugged FSBs on anything shorter than 14.5" and have been doing so since the mid 1960's...

-RH


You are correct sir. While I really never found the time to try it out, I really haven't thought about what you just said. Hmmm...maybe it's time to have my friendly blademaker to make a modified bayonet for me.
Just the same...I could easily just swap back the original FSB....

6/1/2009 4:02:27 PM EDT
[#19]
His optic was NOT an Eotech  it was a MARS unit, it is a red dot and also has a  IR laser built in. I didi have an Eotech magnifier with it
6/2/2009 2:16:41 AM EDT
[#20]
What show were you watching?
6/2/2009 6:44:00 AM EDT
[#21]
had the Metal hood so It looked   IFFY TECH to me

what branch was he??

my 44yr eyes could be wrong

6/4/2009 10:13:19 AM EDT
[#22]
THIS WAS A SNIPER TEAM
SPOT MAN carrierd the M4cammando
500Y he was hitting very well with this set up as everyone saw

I would never use a SBR as my GO TO FOR LONG RANGE

Most 12yr old would allready know this
6/4/2009 2:23:14 PM EDT
[#23]
Commando Bayonet
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd72/jeepjohn/0604091615.jpg
6/4/2009 3:00:35 PM EDT
[#24]


Ya know I have few Bayonets since I was a  little kid
But not a single M16 bayonet

also

Seems like Colt wouldnt bother with a FSB without Lug

Just slap a F marked type with lug

its not going to really matter since most wouldnt run a bayo

6/4/2009 3:36:38 PM EDT
[#25]
the guy using it was a Pittsburgh  PA  swat team spotter.     the optic was a MARS sight with an EOTECH Magnifier.   the Other COP had a SR25.   they were the only cops invited to the sniper challenge,

one member needed a short to mid range carbine for close targets on the course. He said all he had was that or a M700.  and a SR25 and a M700 would have hurt their short range targets,   he did hit at 500 M wit hit, and was the only one to hit the targets from the blackhawk
6/5/2009 5:43:57 AM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:


Ya know I have few Bayonets since I was a  little kid
But not a single M16 bayonet

also

Seems like Colt wouldnt bother with a FSB without Lug

Just slap a F marked type with lug

its not going to really matter since most wouldnt run a bayo



A factory Colt Commando barrel is lightweight profile & does not have a lug under the FSB originally because there is no military original bayo that will fit a 11.5 barrel without being modified.
6/5/2009 6:30:01 AM EDT
[#27]
I've been meaning to get a 6933. This thread is not helping with that.
6/5/2009 9:09:48 AM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
Quoted:


Ya know I have few Bayonets since I was a  little kid
But not a single M16 bayonet

also

Seems like Colt wouldnt bother with a FSB without Lug

Just slap a F marked type with lug

its not going to really matter since most wouldnt run a bayo



A factory Colt Commando barrel is lightweight profile & does not have a lug under the FSB originally because there is no military original bayo that will fit a 11.5 barrel without being modified.



TRUE
I

but still seems cheaper to slap on a regular


Or maybe Colt thinks GI`s are Dumb and will add a bayonet to the 11.5

Like I said most wouldnt add a bayonet


But thanks for your help warpig
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