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Posted: 3/25/2009 9:05:32 AM EDT
| Do you use it? The instructions say to use it for "semi-perminent" applications, not really sure how to interpret that. |
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I haven't used it yet. Plan on swapping out backstraps when I shoot with my son, see if we can agree upon using the same one and make sure the one we pick works as well shooting as it does just dry firing at the house.
Obviously the idea is, if you drive the pin in, you can't change back straps without driving the pin out. If you only use one back strap all the time, why take the chance on it unsnapping and coming free, just drive the pin in and make sure it always stays on. If your always changing back straps to suite your fancy, then leave the pin out. Roll pins in plastic are pretty easy to drive in/out compared to metal, so it shouldn't be a big deal to drive the pin out again if you change your mind, that's what I took "semi"-permanent to mean. It does require the right punch and hammer and few minutes to do it, NOT exactly a field strip item, as well, there are only so many times you can drive the pin in/out of plastic before it reams out and gets too loose to be of any use. |
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I used it on one of my MIAD's with the large backstrap. They seem to "just barely" snap in place, so I like the extra security of the pin. On my HD carbine I use the medium backstrap, and it snaps nice and solid, so no rollpin for that one.
I wish the MOE had the finger groove in front, cause I'd prolly replace my other AR's with that instead. Tex78 |
| My MIAD with my S&W lower, the two larger back straps have a cleft that butts up against the round radius at the rear of the lower receiver. The fit was too tight in that spot, in fact it took a lot of force to snap in the largest back strap and you can see how the seam between the grip and back strap was being spread by the force of the top of the back strap butting up against the back radius of the lower receiver. I filed down the inside of that upper part of back strap, they snap in easily, no spread gap at the seam. I guess the larger back straps may need some fitting with some receivers. |
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I have NOT installed the pin on the MIAD yet. I have been able to install roll pins on other things (non AR) with channel locks and pliers, basically squeeze them in. Make sure to cover the surface with a rag, wood, something to keep from scratching and marring the surface of the MIAD.
Using pliers is usually hit or miss, BUT, the MIAD is plastic and softer than metal, so driving the pin should be easier than others that are driven into metal, so "I would THINK" pliers would work in this case. |
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After having a couple of back straps pop off I use the pin on all of them now. The issue I had was due to the fact that I sometimes use a sling attachable end plate and the large back strap. These two parts kind of interfere with each other.
A soft mallet, small hammer or even the handle of a heavy screwdriver can be used to tap the pin into place. It doesn't take much force. |
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i use it on my home defense/shtf rifle....i did notice that now my backstrap moves side to side, and its kind of annoying how loose it feels.
im gonna pop the pin out, and put a little dab of rtv silicone on the backstrap guides to take up the slop, then put the pin back in. hopefully once the silicone hardens, the slop will be gone. |
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I wish the MOE had the finger groove in front, cause I'd prolly replace my other AR's with that instead.
Tex78 i agree 100% the only reason i dont buy the MOE, is because it does not have the finger groove in the front. they should really make the MOE 2.0 with that little addition....ill buy a FDE and a black one. |
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