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2/22/2009 9:48:09 AM EDT
i have shot for over 20yrs and over a conservative 10k rounds.  to this day, i have never had a failure to fire w/ anything i have shot in numerous calibers.

i have been reading on here about people having f-t-f w/ certain ammo and wanted to know, what is the safety procedure for a ftf?  how long do you let it sit before you eject the round, etc?  since i now do most shooting at a range, i need to know the correct way to deal w/ this....

thanks,
bob
2/22/2009 9:54:28 AM EDT
[#1]
I wait 10 seconds before ejecting a faulty round.

I think I've only had this happen in .22 LRs. Oh yeah a handloaded 30-30 that my brither incorrectly primed failed to fire at the range.
2/22/2009 9:54:55 AM EDT
[#2]
really it all depends but if i pull the trigger and it just clicks i wait about 10 seconds and eject the round and forget about it.  If i am practicing stress shooting i just extract and keep moving.

now if you here a pop and there is no boom (primer goes but the powder doesnt i would place the rifle on safe and let it sit for a minute or 2...if the powder doesnt ignite by then i think you are good to go.

im no "expert" but have been running ranges in the military for a number of years and have expierenced both before and this way always works for me!
2/22/2009 1:09:52 PM EDT
[#3]
I have never had my AR (or any other modern weapon) fail to fire, yet. When one of my C&R rifles(namely my Mauser using 50's dated Yugo ammo) fails to fire, I wait 30 seconds, then re cock the striker and try again.
Rimfires are excluded as they all have a FTFire at some point. I think 10-20 seconds is long enough to wait.
2/22/2009 1:12:40 PM EDT
[#4]
Are you using a lighter hammer spring in a custom trigger group?  That could cause this on military rounds....
2/22/2009 1:23:53 PM EDT
[#5]
i haven't experienced it yet, but just want to know since i will be at public ranges, both indoor and outdoor.  using regular dpms lpks and shooting mostly xm193, prvi match and m855/m193 and possibly some wolf, but not sure about the wolf on this one since it voids the warranty w/ del-ton.
2/22/2009 4:56:45 PM EDT
[#6]
Once the round is out of the weapon, it's not really all that dangerous (there is a little danger but minimal).  I usually just eject it, let it sit a few minutes.  If nothing goes boom with it.  I just toss it in the shit can.

Mutt
2/22/2009 5:06:55 PM EDT
[#7]
- Keep weapon pointed downrange for at least ten seconds in case of a hangfire.

- Drop the mag, then eject the chambered round.

- Discard the bad round in a safe manner.

The old Army field manual for the M-14 rifle specifically states that hangfires will occur within ten seconds - that was official Army doctrine on the point.

I experienced TWO failure to fires on a Springfield Armory XD-9 that I rented at a range once.  The gun was beat to hell and the clerk even told me "it had been in the shop a few times for repair" so it didn't affect my opinion of most XD-9s (which I feel are quality weapons).  But still, that really got my attention when I squeezed the trigger and nothing happened.  Had a good grip both times, grip safety was depressed, etc. Talk about a "WTF?" moment!

Those were the only two failure to fires I have ever experienced in 35 years of shooting.

I gave the weapon back to the counter clerk and told him he needed to send it back to the shop for a third time, because whatever they did the first two times didn't fix it.
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