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1/11/2009 1:08:44 PM EDT
I am looking to make a bulk ammo (5.56/.223) purchase online (I live in the Peoples Republic of New Jersey), but the range I shoot at requires no steel ammo. I recently purchased 700rnds of hotshot for my Ak, and I cant shoot any of it becouse it sticks to the magnet...Is there a good way to determine this if the package does not say?
Does all Russian (Wolf) ammo have steel cores?

I found this I liked, but I have no way of knowing if it contains a steel core projectile...
http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=7169&dir=18|830|845
http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=6948&dir=18|830|845

P.S. - I love my AR (Bushmaster A3 Carbine) not my AK
1/11/2009 1:29:16 PM EDT
[#1]
I hope someone else can help you better but if i may take a stab... ive never had any bulk 55gr. cause that issue. whats the designation for that stuff?  m193?
1/11/2009 1:30:52 PM EDT
[#2]

They probably mean no steel-cased ammo. The first is fine. The second is lacquer-coated steel case.
1/11/2009 1:31:33 PM EDT
[#3]
yes, m193 (5.56 M193 55GR FMJBT), but I honestly have no idea what that means.
The range master takes a round from you and hold it up to a big magnet on a post, if it sticks at all, no go.
Is there any way to make a positive identification? Alot of $ on the line for me, and these day there not alot in the bank.
1/11/2009 1:42:33 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
They probably mean no steel-cased ammo. The first is fine. The second is lacquer-coated steel case.


I have been to a few ranges that do not allow steel core projectiles. Mainly indoor
ranges that do not want their backdrops chewed up from the steel core.
1/11/2009 1:48:26 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Quoted:
They probably mean no steel-cased ammo. The first is fine. The second is lacquer-coated steel case.


I have been to a few ranges that do not allow steel core projectiles. Mainly indoor
ranges that do not want their backdrops chewed up from the steel core.


That's it our range checks your Ammo. using a magnet checking the bullets not the case. Many shoot steel cased Ammo. but no steel core bullets.
1/11/2009 3:07:42 PM EDT
[#6]
i understand using the magnet, and that would work if i went into my local shop and stuck it to the box, but im looking at the internet specials on bulk, and alot of the brands are unfamiliar to me (foriegn countrys)...right now i shoot winchester ammo mainly, and i know thats all copper, but if your trying to stock up, it seems to me eastern block ammo is the cheapest...and as long as it doesnt blow my rifle apart or have a detrimental effect ill shoot it, ex-commie or not
1/11/2009 3:11:36 PM EDT
[#7]
IMHO they must mean FMJ ..Alot of ranges wont allow Full Metal Jacket bullets.. What difference would a steel case make.
1/11/2009 3:41:12 PM EDT
[#8]
no steel allowed, the round can contain none of it at all....they have steel backdrop and steel on steel is bad and for other reasons....just need to know if thees any way to tell if it contains any steel without handling it with a magnet
1/11/2009 3:45:23 PM EDT
[#9]
Bimetal jacket on the bullet probably.
1/11/2009 3:46:44 PM EDT
[#10]
The main line ammo I've seen online has it in the description. Either lead core or steel core, etc. I'd say best bet is to just ask the online dealer before you buy. Shey should be able to tell you for sure.
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