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12/29/2008 11:19:20 AM EDT
How Accurate are the conversion kits?  I am looking at the CMMG from Brownells and am curious to know if my 1/9 twist barrel will make for a good accurate shooter.

I realize that it wouldn't be as accurate as a actual .22, but if it's close, then I might pick one up.
12/29/2008 11:20:47 AM EDT
[#1]
IN a 14.5" 1:9 twist barrel I get 1" groups at 25y, 4-5" groups at 50y, and 16" groups at 100y (with alot of drop).

They are perfect for indoor 50' and 25y ranges, or for casual plinking outside.
12/29/2008 11:24:04 AM EDT
[#2]
I havn't shot groups or nothing wtih mine (as i have not tried) but It hits cans from 100+ yards on a consistent basis. BTW i have an m261, works great. federal only! lol
12/29/2008 11:41:58 AM EDT
[#3]
my 20" A-2 sabre will hold 1.5 at 50 yards. 1/9 twist. I don't shoot it at 100...
12/29/2008 2:26:45 PM EDT
[#4]
I don't shoot for groups either, but I plink cans at 75 yards with no problem with my RRA 1:9 and my S&W 1:9.
12/29/2008 3:10:50 PM EDT
[#5]
I was curious about this also last summer so I conducted a small test.  The test rifles were a Colt 20" chrome lined 1:9 twist barrel, a RRA 16" 1:9 chrome moley midlength and I used a 2.5 X 10 Tasco scope.  I shot all groups at 50 yards.  Groups were 5 shots and were either shot prone or off a bench. The temperature was 70 degrees with light wind.  All groups were measured center to center with calipers from widest two shots in group.

RRA Aguila 40 grain SE 50 yards STD trigger Ciener kit

.827,  1.173, 1.104, 892, .6477, 1.520, 1.419, 1.267

Colt 20" CL RRA NM 2.5X10 Tasco Colt conversion kit. 40 gr Agula SE

.732, 1.192, .845, 2.152, .550

Colt 20" Fed 36 gr Bulk

3.575, 1.654



KKF 16" 1:16 twist dedicated upper Ciener conversion 2.5 X 10 scope, Aguila 40 grain SE RRA NM trigger

.476, 1.015, 1.023, .915, 1.309

Marlin bolt action 3X9 tasco scope bipod prone 50 yards

Fed 36 grain, 1.350,  1.050

Aguila 40 grain SE .650

I also shot the RRA middy at 100 yards off the bench using Aguila 40 grain SE one group with Ciener 1.900 X 1.283,  Colt conversion 1.267 X 3.575

I've also got a DPMS 16" 1:16 twist bull barrel with a 2.5X10 Tasco scope I shot at 50 yards on a different day.  RRA NM trigger bipod bench

40 grain blazer

1.047, .680, .803, 1.026, 1.288

40 grain Aguila SE

.737, 1.153, 1.672, .657   Different day Aguila SE 40 grn  .980, .557, .930,  980, .982, .950, .680, .966, .982

CCI 36 grain HP mini mag

.703, .859, .772

Wolf MT  1.043, .620  

As you can see by the groups there is quite a bit of variation in the groups.  All the guns produced good groups which are ruined by fliers.  The fliers are present with almost all groups but are more pronounced with the 1:9 twist.  The Aguila is some of the best shooting ammo I've found.  With Fed bulk or other ammo I'm sure the groups would be bigger.  If your plinking the conversion kits have enough accuracy for shooting steel plates and CQG training.  If you want to shoot small groups with a scope you'd better pony up for a dedicated upper and then the accuracy is going to be less than a good bolt gun IMHO.  I hope this helps answer people question of accuracy with a conversion kit.  You can see there is not much difference between Colt conversion kit  and Ciener conversion kit.   Ammo seems to make a greater difference in groups compared to kits.
12/29/2008 3:24:39 PM EDT
[#6]
Well hell.  I'll have to think this one over.

Thanks to everyone for the feedback.
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