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Posted: 9/14/2008 6:52:09 PM EDT
| Who other than Spikes tactical makes a dedicated .22 caliber upper? Nothing against the Spikes Tactical but I am looking for other options before I make a purchase. It will be used to help teach an 8 year old to shoot. |
Then there is all the rest . . . | I have a Kurt's Kustom Firearm dedicated 22 lr Upper which I have been completely satisfied. Kurt's uppers use 1 in 16 inch twist barrels with a unique barrel extension which allows the use of any 22 lr conversion kit, ie Ciener, Colt/DPMS, M-261, Olympic RFA, or Air Force. There is a company called Viking selling 22 uppers on gunbroker but I'd say their quality is not as good as the other brands. If you want to spend a lot of money look at Accuracy speaks and Compass Lake Engineering. |
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If you are looking for other options then you need to consider what each has to offer. A dedicated upper will run better, be more accurate, have the right twist. Ciener kits work but if you do have a problem there is no customer support. You won't get parts from Ciener and unless you have the proper twist barrel, accuracy will be marginal. Some do well, some don't.'The Ciener has to run wet. That translates into a very dirty system. I looked at all the different offerings. I bought a Ciener. I've since sold it. Spikes Tactical had everything I was looking for. The bolts are nickel plated. I use 2 drops of oil. It runs very clean. Cleaner system, more time at the range between cleanings. System doesn't get all gummed up. Acuracy, My Lothar Walthar upper isn't broken in yet and I put 10 shots in the size of a nickel at 25 yads. It's an 11.5" barrel. My 5.5" Spikes upper with a Shaw barrel will put every shot in 2" at 50 yards. It's my plinker. If you have a problem what kind of support will you get? Look around the boards. Spikes has the best customer support you will find. They answer a lot of questions on here, and will return your calls. Customer support is 100% Any .22 will have issues. It's cheap ammo you are shooting. Spikes built their uppers around Federal bulk pack intentionally. Some rifles have to run expensive .22 ammo. Kind of defeats the point. I agree, look around and check your options. Know what to look for. Then look at what Spikes has. It's all there. Best of all, Spikes upperts look very cool.   
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I built mine in pieces. I had a Ciener conversion and a few BDM mags, and used them in my 1:7 upper for a while. I had KKF make a dissipator style rimfire bbl (Kurt thinks it was his first - he cant remember making one before mine). I used an M1S 9mm upper and CH, a stripped RRA lower and some spare parts I had laying around, and I ordered the other $60 in parts from PK firearms (I think?) to finish it. Most of that $60 was the four position stock. A dedicated .22 that used a Spike's or M1S upper would have been cheaper, but I had to get my rifle in pieces, and I can still take the rimfire bolt out and put in my SHTF rifle if I want. Never shot it at paper, but I know that no tin can within 50 yards is safe. Havent shot it past 50 yards, dont have the room... |
| What I am looking for is a dedicated upper. I don't want a conversion kit like the Cieners. It is going on a CMMG lower that will eventually be passed on to him when he gets older. He is using a Cricket right now and does pretty well with it. My only real issue with the Spike's Tactical is that they are fancier than what I am looking for. I just want a basic 16" barrel with standard hand guards, fixed front sight and removable carry handle. |
That would be the Tactical Solutions.  ETA: Polite Society, Inc. |
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Spikes will build it however you want it. Mine are the way I ordered them. Tom is building a MK18 now. 11.5" barrel, fixed FSB and standard handguards. Give them a call for a price. Also, If you order a 16" M4 it will look like a real M$. 1.5" is inside the reciever so only 14.5" of barrel sticks out of the reciever. It's still a legal 16" but looks like an SBR! |
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Who other than Spikes tactical makes a dedicated .22 caliber upper? Nothing against the Spikes Tactical but I am looking for other options before I make a purchase. It will be used to help teach an 8 year old to shoot. If money is no object, and you must have the most accurate upper available, Accuracy Speaks or Compass Lake Engineering. Of the others available, I would go with a Spikes dedicated upper. |
| I am very happy with my Spike's dedicated upper and the support is great in my experience. Spike's has a lifetime warranty so if you ever have any problems, they will take care of you. And yes, they can build it in the configuration that you want. You can also get a lot of answers on the industry section here under Spike's Tactical from either people who use their products or from the man himself (badazzar15) from Spike's. |
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