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Posted: 9/13/2008 12:25:37 PM EDT
| hello friends i buy a new m4a1 but its barell its not soccom barell and its full auto do the m4a1 not come with soccom barell or its ok ?thks |
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The SOCOM barrel us USGI equipment, the RO921HB. You probably bought an RO977. I'm sure Colt could make an RO977HB if they got some special orders, but I believe the SOCOM profile barrel is a USGI special ordered item. Basically, if you don't ask for it specifically, you don't get it. HTH, ~Augee |
You used that as your first post?
How is this an issue of national security? This stuff is easily accessible public information, and the OP obviously has access to the internet. If this guy had better English and put in USA as his country, you wouldn't have said that. Just an observation. |
Because he is a sheep. He listen to the BS US media. Plus you know the damage I could do with that knowledge? Knowing about those flats on both sides. It is worse than the collider. |
Just call me overly cautious and a little paranoid. With 15 years military service and 6 years in federal security service, I take nothing for face value. For me, by nature, Lebanon throws up a red flag. That is all. |
Only if you have a pendant filled with gypsy tears at all times he |
What makes you think a real terrorist would even put their actual location? More than likely a real "bad guy" would put their location as somewhere in the midwest like Ohio...... 
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NO, you're also allowed in the Makarov forum in Handguns.  Nothing secret about the M4 or it's capabilites. Besides, plenty of good guys in Lebanon too. I personally know two military officers, one an intelligence officer, another a Navy LDO with more then 30 years in, who immigrated to the US from Lebanon in their teens. |
Theres good and bad every where from every country..just cause the israelis have been caught spying on us their friends a couple times in the past 10 years does that mean they are our enemy and we should be cautious with them too?I was born here but my grandparents on both sides were from Sicily I guess that makes me mob related
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Ahem...lots of 5.56 weapon systems there (Middle East and Israel alike) that our tax dollars paid for in the '80s. Since you are a Marine, Lebanon is a tender issue-but wtf? Concerned over a barrel profile contour? For Pete's sake, don't tell him the compression ratio of my convertible Olds 350 S model... An associate of mine had to do a death notification detail immediately following Desert Storm/Restore Hope because the pilot landed his helo in a unmarked Iraqi minefield. The minefield was completely seeded with American AP and AT mines. We gave Iraq 6 complimentary early model Abrams M1 main battle tanks-about 6 years prior to Saddam trying to reclaim Kuwait, and everyone knew he was already sliming Kurds and dissidents with mustard agent. Hell, even after the Shah fell (Iran) and lost control of the M113s, F4s, F-14s and such, we still traded TOW launchers for hostages with them. And you are worried about giving away info on barrel contours. If you are really .gov, you can put in him in touch with the state department, and I am sure they will put him in touch with the appropriate agency, and in no time at all he will have dozens of free/complimentary Colt and FN product models delivered to his Lebanese doorstep for comparison. Cripes. Rant over, target complete, out. |
You call someone out for using a post to clarify an incoherent post? Get your ducks in a row. |
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Several things. Lebanon is denied territory. Anything we say or do can and will be construed as providing aid to a possible enemy. Being a gun site and opening ourselves to ANY kind of negative press is couterproductive. Period. Secondly, not all export colts are marked "property US govt.", and if i'm not mistaken, Aimpoints are also on the restricted list. Hence, the weapon shown "probably" got to it's current owner devoid of "normal" paths of legal transaction. While I would easily admit that there are a number of Colt guns that "could" be in lebanon legit, the chances are much higher, expecially considering the current manufacture of the weapon in question as well as the accessories, that this is outside channeled. Regardless, legit or not, it is unwise to contribute to this discussion. |
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Denied? You make that up? It is just a country that believe it or not is still a tourist spot. Talk about paranoid. Here, turn me in. www.dhs.gov/index.shtm |
Funny. |
Yea? Really? Try exporting arms there(for civilian sales), ESPECIALLY ones marked as the one in the pics, then come back and tell me how it works out for ya. |
Grow up. Exporting firearms and looking if a barrel is SOCOM profiled are not equal. |
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Reactivating Rant mode. Yep, you better not be a civilian and try to share non-sensitive/hobbyist knowledge with a foreign national Arfcommer. But don't sweat it, if you work for the .gov, you can give away entire multi-million dollar weapon systems with impunity... Pretty soon, the terrorist infiltrators/seditionists/5th columnists are going to want to know if Graham Crackers taste better dipped in whole or 2% low-fat milk. de-de-dee |
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Alibaba25000- I am glad you are here, and welcome-your command of English is excellent. Everyone here can express their opinion, no matter how wrong they are. I suspect some Arfcommers see a jihadist under every rock, behind every corner, and lurking in every shadow. I hope you continue to post here. Some of the hobbyists here may not have experienced the 'world' outside our own borders, and have a narrow preconceived view of non Americans. Maybe, just maybe, if some of my fellow closet-commandos doffed their CRYE MultiCam thong bikini briefs, procured a passport, and broke bread (and hung out with the indigenous types), we all might be a wee bit less inclined to schwack each other, and more inclined to value what we have here. Courtesy and respect are the touchstones of any professional military organization, martial arts discipline, law enforcement doctrine, etc. But, you may have already observed that some Arfcom posters lack those basic tenants. Sad, but they are entitled to their opinions. But, don't ever think that all your fellow hobbyists west of the Mediterranean are anti-anything. Particularly if you are a firearms enthusiast! Sine Pari |
I know you are not. Alot of americans are brainwashed with nationalism that they are deluded that I cant even explain it. Dont go away. It would be better if he went away. I saw a film on how some people here think. I cant tell you much about it because it was made in 1937 and was in German. Dibe |
Not trying to assume anything here, but why do call yourself "Alibaba"? That is what the citizens of Iraq call terrorists and looters. The military allows one gun/rifle to every Iraqi citizen household for protection against "Alibaba" or terrorists or looters. Not saying your are, but why would you call yourself that? That would be like someone here in the United States making their screen name "Citizen Killer" or "House Looter" I know all you asked was a harmless barrel question, it's not like you asked for the blueprints to the Pentigon. I just find in strange that you made your screen name Alibaba. Respectfully |
I agree 100%. |
Not trying to assume anything here, but why do call yourself "Alibaba"? That is what the citizens of Iraq call terrorists and looters. The military allows one gun/rifle to every Iraqi citizen household for protection against "Alibaba" or terrorists or looters. Not saying your are, but why would you call yourself that? That would be like someone here in the United States making their screen name "Citizen Killer" or "House Looter" I know all you asked was a harmless barrel question, it's not like you asked for the blueprints to the Pentagon. I just find in strange that you made your screen name Alibaba. Respectfully |
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He's been here since 2004 and now you want to drive him off? Do you guys even know who Ali Baba was???? The Story: Ali Baba, a poor Arab woodcutter, happens to overhear a group of thieves—forty in all—visiting their treasure store in the forest where he is cutting wood. The thieves' treasure is in a cave, the mouth of which is sealed by magic—it opens on the words "Open, O' Simsim" (commonly written as "Open Sesame" in English), and seals itself on the words "Close, Simsim" ("Close Sesame"). When the thieves are gone, Ali Baba enters the cave himself, and takes some of the treasure home. The wife of Ali Baba borrows her sister-in-law's scales to weigh this new wealth of gold coins. Unbeknownst to Ali, his brother's wife has put a blob of wax in the scales to find out what Ali is using them for. To her shock, she finds a gold coin sticking to the scales and tells her husband, Ali Baba's rich and greedy brother, Cassim. Ali Baba tells Cassim about the cave. Cassim goes to the cave to take more of the treasure, but in his greed and excitement over the treasures forgets the magic words to get back out of the cave. The thieves find him there, and kill him. When his brother does not come back, Ali Baba goes to the cave to look for him, and finds the body, cut into many pieces and displayed just inside the entrance of the cave to discourage any similar attempts in the future. Ali Baba brings the body home and, with the help of Morgiana, a clever slave-girl in Cassim's household, Ali finds an old tailor whom he pays, blindfolds, and leads to Cassim's house. There, overnight, the tailor stitches Cassim back together, so that no one will be suspicious. Ali and his family are able to give Cassim a proper burial without anyone asking awkward questions. The thieves, finding the body gone, realize that yet another person must know their secret, and set out to track him down. One of the thieves goes down to the town and asks around. He discovers that a tailor was seen leaving a house in the early morning, and guesses that the house must belong to the thieves' victim. The thief finds the tailor and asks him to lead the way to the house. The tailor is blindfolded again, and in this state he is able to find the house. The thief marks the door with a white cross. The plan is for the other thieves to come back that night and kill everyone in the house. However, the thief has been seen by Morgiana and she, loyal to her master, foils his plan by marking all the houses in the neighbourhood with a similar cross. When the 40 thieves return that night, they cannot identify the correct house and the head thief kills the unfortunate man. The next day, the thieves try again, only this time, a chunk is chipped out of the stone step at Ali Baba's front door. Again Morgiana foils the plan by making similar chips in all the other doorsteps. The second thief is killed for his stupidity as well but eventually they are able to ascertain the location of Ali Baba's house. The chief of the thieves pretends to be an oil merchant in need of Ali Baba's hospitality, bringing with him mules loaded with thirty-eight oil jars, one filled with oil, the other thirty-seven with the other thieves (the two missing members were the scouts previously sent to find the house, who were killed for their failure). Once Ali Baba is asleep, the thieves plan to kill him. Again, Morgiana discovers and foils the plan, killing the thirty-seven thieves in their oil jars by pouring boiling oil on them. When their leader comes to rouse his men, he discovers that they are dead, and escapes. To exact revenge, after some time the thief establishes himself as a merchant, befriends Ali Baba's son (who is now in charge of the late Cassim's business), and is invited to dinner at Ali Baba's house. The thief is recognised by Morgiana, who performs a dance with a dagger for the diners and plunges it into the heart of the thief when he is off his guard. Ali Baba is at first angry with Morgiana, but when he finds out the thief tried to kill him, he gives Morgiana her freedom and marries her to his son. Thus, the story ends happily for everyone except the forty thieves and Cassim. I guess the Beastie Boys were also terrorists! |
You are pathetic and uneducated. It is frickin' Pentagon. It is equivalent to you using the handle Lone ranger. |
This is said by a idiot that uses a little kid shooting the finger as his avatar. |
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KJB, Yes it is a story that dates back many years. I am justing stating a fact that the term is used to identify someone. Im not blaming the guy for anything. I am simply asking a question. Here is some video of Iraqi soldiers talking about Ali Baba. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YO3G2jAGXc |
It sounds like your are the uneducated one. Im not accusing the guy of anything just asking him about his screen name. Have you served in the war or know even someone who does? Probably not. Educate yourself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YO3G2jAGXc |
Wow "platpusrex" you sure make a lot of personal attacks on people. No one has made a personal attack here. I think you need a self esteem boost. Your sound like "that guy" in a unit that everyone can't stand. Or "that guy" in a bar the everyone wants to fight. |
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Good to see fellow Arfcommers re-welcoming long standing members with such class. What precedent did Alibaba25000 set by making a typical hobbyist tech inquiry? God help some poor noob Canadian slob that has a question about rifling twists and his pet 6.8SPC cartridge. Or that nice Italian civilian dude with his new M-16A1. Probably Shining Path or SLA guerrillas! He-he, we might get real lucky and bag us a HEZBOOLAH or two from Greenland. It is up to us Arfcommers to increase COMSEC vigilance! Poor Arfcom vigilance led to limited copycat M-16 production in *GASP* North Korea and the PRC (True). It is common knowledge too that the barrel profile of a Colt 6921 is a perfect match for the enriched uranium trigger array of a Soviet SS-20 MIRV-ICBM; you are veeeerrrry sneaky alibaba25000, but we are aware of your tricks, in this most dangerous game of yours! BTW-You know why in some countries, two bit tyrants and dictators can take charge? Because they pretend to listen to the masses, and they don't talk down to them (until they are in power, anyway.) Maybe if some Fuggly Americans can attempt to listen, extend an occasional olive branch, and talk like intelligent adults, we can draw more people in to our American zone and ideology. Talking down to Arfcom members in good standing, from some far and away land-different than your own, does a lot of international damage, and is just plain embarrassing. Shame. |
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Ooh-ooh-ooh, personal attacks now, with inferred lack of manhood, 'cuz you may be a dirty civilian. "There I was, No Shit, just me and my team, Chuck N and Johnny R. We just took out a splinter cell Hamas smoothie and oxygen bar, when the Ayatollah jumped from his concealed spider hole, swinging his Olympic Arms CAR-15 in a wide arc...Johnny R clobbered him over the head with a handy hookah, and Chuck round housed kicked him through the tent wall." "That's when I...WHAT!?! YOU NEVER SERVED? DAMN YOU! YOU ARE NOT A VALID HUMAN BEING!" Platypus; most of these closet commandos that actually might be veterans were either small generator mechanics or latrine orderlies. These people are oxygen thieves, not worthy of contempt even. If the Arfcom peanut gallery even brings "the military" thing up in a negative or character context, it's because of atrophied testicles. These are the same clowns that worry if their gas key is not staked in 14 places with 245lbs of torque. THIS IS A HOBBYIST SITE, PEOPLE! THE EXCHANGE OF INFORMATION AND GOOD-WILL IS THE REASON ar.15.com EXISTS. And BTW...We were perfectly safe; the rifle was an Olympic after all, not like it could actually fire, or anything. |
Oh no, not again...how many times are you going to come up with that same BS over the top war scenario? I can always tell it's you because you have made up those stupid scenarios in so many other threads. They get old. Seriously, do you even own a rilfe? |
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