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7/30/2008 4:57:23 PM EDT
I have a Vortex that has straight tines on it..
Is it an older model or what??

7/30/2008 5:53:21 PM EDT
[#1]

Quoted:
I have a Vortex that has straight tines on it..
Is it an older model or what??



The FIRST generation had straight prongs. I purchased one directly from Smith Enterprises when they first hit the civilian market.

PursuitSS
7/30/2008 6:00:55 PM EDT
[#2]
Yep must be one of the first ones.
7/30/2008 6:50:24 PM EDT
[#3]
what generation was the Vortex with the hooks at the end of them?
7/30/2008 7:14:46 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
what generation was the Vortex with the hooks at the end of them?


First & second.

PursuitSS
7/30/2008 8:13:54 PM EDT
[#5]
This one has no hooks but straight tines..

What generation is it??
What is it worth? Getting ready to sell it..

Thanks
7/30/2008 8:40:21 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
This one has no hooks but straight tines..

What generation is it??
What is it worth? Getting ready to sell it..

Thanks


See if it has a SE marking on it.


PursuitSS
8/1/2008 7:42:26 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:

Quoted:
This one has no hooks but straight tines..

What generation is it??
What is it worth? Getting ready to sell it..

Thanks


See if it has a SE marking on it.


PursuitSS


Where is the SE marking??  I have 5 Vortexs and I dont see markings on any of them and atleast 1 5.56 and 1 .308 came DIRECTLY from Smith..
Thanks
8/1/2008 10:09:49 AM EDT
[#8]
I haven't purchased a Vortex in YEARS. Smith used to make pretty much everything they manufactured with a SE marking surrounded on all four sides by indented brackets. I still have two aluminum SE bolt carriers that are marked. If it's an OLD vortex, it's either marked or it's one of the fakes that were out there.

PursuitSS
8/2/2008 12:58:08 PM EDT
[#9]
Its a FAKE  not a real Smith.Last 3 gun shows were full of them.If you hold them side by side you can see the difference in quality.Smiths are twisted for a reason.To spin the buring gasses and it self tightens itself to the barrel.
8/2/2008 1:15:08 PM EDT
[#10]
So your saying Smith sold Skeeter a fake vortex?




Quoted:
Its a FAKE  not a real Smith.Last 3 gun shows were full of them.If you hold them side by side you can see the difference in quality.Smiths are twisted for a reason.To spin the buring gasses and it self tightens itself to the barrel.
8/2/2008 1:17:50 PM EDT
[#11]
and i have never seen a SE marking on any of the smith fh 's

at least any of the 556 FH's
8/2/2008 1:23:31 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
Its a FAKE  not a real Smith.Last 3 gun shows were full of them.If you hold them side by side you can see the difference in quality.Smiths are twisted for a reason.To spin the buring gasses and it self tightens itself to the barrel.


The original Vortex flash suppressors had straight tines.

PursuitSS
8/2/2008 1:29:30 PM EDT
[#13]
an email or a phone call to Smith enterprises would solve the mystory, I realy hate when fakes are sold as the real deal ,I hope you didn't fall victom to a fake . it is sad when a company doe's the R&D to make a great product only to get ripped off . Smith makes a great FS and I'm sure they can settle this with a call, good luck . If it's real It should bring $30.00 to $40.00 or so .
8/2/2008 1:37:30 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
So your saying Smith sold Skeeter a fake vortex?




Quoted:
Its a FAKE  not a real Smith.Last 3 gun shows were full of them.If you hold them side by side you can see the difference in quality.Smiths are twisted for a reason.To spin the buring gasses and it self tightens itself to the barrel.


Skeeter stated that at least 2 of the 5 came directly from Smith, not all of them. I certainly hope he wasnt sold a fake under false pretenses, but I have seen quite a few of the straight models ( all copy's ) at recent gun shows. So to clarify Skeeter, are you sure of the origin of this particular FH?
8/2/2008 1:51:56 PM EDT
[#15]
This one didnt come directly from Smith. I got it in the EE here. But like I said I dont see any markings on any of my Vortexs even ones that come directly from Smith..

WHere did they normally mark them??

Thanks
8/2/2008 4:29:31 PM EDT
[#16]
I have a straight vortex that came on my Noveske N4
8/2/2008 6:28:00 PM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I have a Vortex that has straight tines on it..
Is it an older model or what??



The FIRST generation had straight prongs. I purchased one directly from Smith Enterprises when they first hit the civilian market.

PursuitSS


Yep. 1st gen.
8/2/2008 7:05:37 PM EDT
[#18]
is there anyother way to tell if its fake?
8/2/2008 7:29:58 PM EDT
[#19]
Years ago I ended up with a fake Vortex.  I knew it was fake when I went to the range and upon firing one of the tines flew off.  I wasn't very pleased.
8/2/2008 7:33:47 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:
Years ago I ended up with a fake Vortex.  I knew it was fake when I went to the range and upon firing one of the tines flew off.  I wasn't very pleased.


well I have one off the ee I'm going to get it perm attached to a 14.5 so if it blows off I'm gonna be pissed
8/2/2008 8:28:57 PM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Years ago I ended up with a fake Vortex.  I knew it was fake when I went to the range and upon firing one of the tines flew off.  I wasn't very pleased.


well I have one off the ee I'm going to get it perm attached to a 14.5 so if it blows off I'm gonna be pissed


Mine was a perm attach ordered direct from a vendor on a Colt upper.  I was pissed at the vendor at the time too.  I don't remember which one it was though.
8/3/2008 8:33:51 AM EDT
[#22]
Toycop,
That really sucks..
How did that turn out for you??
8/3/2008 10:26:02 AM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:
Toycop,
That really sucks..
How did that turn out for you??


I confirmed with Smith that it was indeed a fake and then I contacted the vendor.  I sent the upper in and the vendor either swapped out the FH or sent a new upper.  I couldn't tell because the pinning/soldering of the FH was actually real good.
8/3/2008 11:20:17 AM EDT
[#24]
Fake?

Or is it just a Young Manufacturing flash hider? Based on the LaFrance design? It might no be a Smith but it would not be a bad flash hider either.




8/3/2008 12:41:16 PM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:
Fake?

Or is it just a Young Manufacturing flash hider? Based on the LaFrance design? It might no be a Smith but it would not be a bad flash hider either.

newriverarms.net/avactis-images/cimage_47.jpg




Might also be a 'Vortec'.
8/3/2008 12:42:41 PM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:
Fake?

Or is it just a Young Manufacturing flash hider? Based on the LaFrance design? It might no be a Smith but it would not be a bad flash hider either.

newriverarms.net/avactis-images/cimage_47.jpg




It's a fake if it's advertised and sold as a Smith and turns out to be something else.  Considering mine lost a prong, I'm guessing it wasn't a Young either.
8/28/2008 8:14:43 AM EDT
[#27]
Hey guys,

On the cover of Tactical Response magazine, an M4 has a Smith Vortex style flash hider that has (4) built in carbide tip glass breakers.  Who makes this? gotta have.

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8/28/2008 9:00:28 AM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:
Hey guys,

On the cover of Tactical Response magazine, an M4 has a Smith Vortex style flash hider that has (4) built in carbide tip glass breakers.  Who makes this? gotta have.

Thanks


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