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4/12/2008 1:08:29 PM EDT
First off thanks for the help. I saw a Timney trigger that I really liked at a gun show a few weeks back. Then I had a guy tell me that they cause light primer strikes on 5.56 Nato ammo. Is this true?

I have emailed Timney 4 times in the last few weeks asking them this same question. They have not replied to any of my emails. Their customer service is either really slow or they don't want to answer my question.

Since they won't reply I am asking for the help of my fellow forum junkies. :-)

Should I spend my money on something else?
4/12/2008 1:39:28 PM EDT
[#1]
Possible...but I doubt it. I fire wolf and other combloc ammo that are considered to have very hard primers and I have zero issues. I'm using a timney in a 7.62x39 AR now...shooting surplus ammo (hard primers) and no issues.
4/12/2008 1:47:13 PM EDT
[#2]
In my experience Timney doesn't answer emails ever.
4/12/2008 2:05:42 PM EDT
[#3]
Thanks for the help so far. I shoot wolf sometimes also. But they are 223.  I have only heard bad things about Timney and 5.56 nato rounds. I really don"t want to drop 235.00 dollars on a trigger that will limit what ammo I use.

So I am not the only one that thinks their customer service could be a little better.....
4/12/2008 2:43:18 PM EDT
[#4]
make mine a JP
4/12/2008 3:22:18 PM EDT
[#5]
my timney runs like a top with any ammo i throw at it.

had an issue with it at first and timney was jonny on the spot working to get it fixed.
4/12/2008 4:54:41 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
First off thanks for the help. I saw a Timney trigger that I really liked at a gun show a few weeks back. Then I had a guy tell me that they cause light primer strikes on 5.56 Nato ammo. Is this true?

I have emailed Timney 4 times in the last few weeks asking them this same question. They have not replied to any of my emails. Their customer service is either really slow or they don't want to answer my question.

Since they won't reply I am asking for the help of my fellow forum junkies. :-)

Should I spend my money on something else?


I fire 5.56 NATO (Prvi Partizan, the Serbian stuff) all the time with my Timney. I've never had a light primer strike.

Once you get a nice match trigger like a Timney or CMC, you won't be able to go back to the stock trigger...even your average 2-stage will feel inadequate. You won't be disappointed with the Timney.
4/12/2008 6:07:17 PM EDT
[#7]
I bought a Timney #661 (3lb pull, skeletonized trigger) last summer. They look great and install pretty easy. I had trouble with the trigger not resetting reliably, sometimes it locked up after firing a round and wouldn't release unless I rotated the safety selector to safe and back to fire. I contacted Timney, yes it is tough to get through and they didn't answer my email, and finally talked with Jason. He is very knowledgeable and offered to repair it if I sent it in or offered to talk me through it on the phone. I worked through it on the phone and a simple 1/4 turn of a tamper protected adjustment screw resolved the problem.

Since that experience, I bought 2 more of the same model. A couple weeks ago I took a 3 day Center Mass advanced rifle class for law enforcement officers, in which I fired about 6-700 rounds and I had several (<10) light primer strikes. I researched it and found out about the other light primer strike complaints. I called Timney, again took a couple days to get through, and got hold of Jason again. He offered me stronger springs, the ones they put in the AR-10 trigger. He sent them out postage free to me and charged me $5 each and promised a refund or cancellation of the charge when I send back the originals, which I did. So now I have all 3 of mine upgraded.

It might sound like too much trouble for some folks, but I love mine. I had a chance to try someone else's rifle with an eotech magnifier on it, and after I shouldered it and sighted in on the target, my initial trigger squeeze was not nearly enough and I had to consciously think to overcome the standard hard trigger pull because I am now accustomed to the 3 lb Timney. Once have one, you wont want to go back.

*Plus, the skeletonized trigger has a lot of "cool" factor.
4/12/2008 11:06:17 PM EDT
[#8]
You think I Timney would sale me one with the stronger spring already installed or is it pretty simple to do?
4/12/2008 11:30:21 PM EDT
[#9]
It is pretty simple to do and you wont have any light primer strikes with the stronger spring.
4/14/2008 11:29:04 AM EDT
[#10]
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I bought a Timney #661 (3lb pull, skeletonized trigger) last summer. They look great and install pretty easy. I had trouble with the trigger not resetting reliably, sometimes it locked up after firing a round and wouldn't release unless I rotated the safety selector to safe and back to fire. I contacted Timney, yes it is tough to get through and they didn't answer my email, and finally talked with Jason. He is very knowledgeable and offered to repair it if I sent it in or offered to talk me through it on the phone. I worked through it on the phone and a simple 1/4 turn of a tamper protected adjustment screw resolved the problem.


Doc, my trigger is doing the same thing.  About 5 percent of the time the trigger won't reset.  What did you have to do in order to correct it?  I attempted to contact Timney without any success.
4/14/2008 1:01:24 PM EDT
[#11]
The little set screw in the center toward the rear, I had to remove the orange plastic blob of tamper resistant stuff on top, and then give it a quarter to half turn clockwise. They assured me that I wasn't voiding the warranty and it worked.
4/14/2008 4:59:36 PM EDT
[#12]
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The little set screw in the center toward the rear, I had to remove the orange plastic blob of tamper resistant stuff on top, and then give it a quarter to half turn clockwise. They assured me that I wasn't voiding the warranty and it worked.


Doc you are the man!  Thank you.
4/14/2008 7:00:28 PM EDT
[#13]
I went to the local shop today and had a chance to play with the timney vs. a standard and was extremely impressed.  I will be getting one for my build very soon.  It was so crisp I thought I was pulling the trigger on a Colt SAA.  
4/14/2008 7:49:38 PM EDT
[#14]
I have had light primer strikes with a Timney drop in trigger shooting commercial Remington ammo.

If I could go back in time I would have bought the Chip Mccormick. It is supposed to have heavier springs to eliminate the light primer strike problems.
4/14/2008 8:59:36 PM EDT
[#15]
I've had about 500 rounds with mine various types of ammo and no issues.
4/15/2008 7:54:09 AM EDT
[#16]
Yes, the light primer strikes on the Timney AR15 triggers is a very common issue. The problem occurs when shooting ammo with arsenal primers, which have a harder striking surface. Timney states these triggers were designed with commercial ammo in mind, not NATO / surplus. Although both will work most of the time, on occasion you will get misfires/dud rounds.  

In my recent build I used a Timney and got a single light primer strike (misfire) out of about 150 rounds of Prvi Partisan ammo.

As others have stated, you can get Timney to send you a stronger replacement hammer spring. You apparently need to call them... It has also been my experience that they don't answer any emails, even when I had questions about my order. Someone needs to tell them, if you advertise customer service via e-mail, then you should provide it. If you don't want to answer e-mails, then don't list your email address on your web site. href=this thread for more info.
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