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Posted: 3/6/2008 11:09:34 AM EDT
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Hello Everyone, Forgive me if i ask dumb questions, I am new to ARs but not guns overall. I wanted to know if anybody has the Bushmaster gas piston uppper or if anybody has bought the bushy gas piston conversion.. I was told that the complete upper is actually the POF gas piston assembly and that the gas piston conversion was from Ares. Is this true and if so, which one would you guys reccomend me buying. I just bought a Bushmaster Carbon15 and was thinking of either changing out the complete upper with the bushy gas piston uppper or would you just reccomend i buy the conversion. $$ is not really an issue, i just wanted to know which one is the most durable and reliable. I am going to buy a complete POF P415 soon but i also wanted to own a Bushmaster gas piston.. What do you guys think. The reason i ask is becus several persons at local gun shops have told me not to buy the gas piston setups from Bushmaster because they are still trying to perfect them.. But i dont understand how this could be if they are getting their piston assemblies from POf and Ares which i understand are good systems. If any of you guys own a gas piston bushy,, how many rounds have u put through it without any problems. Anyways sorry for the long email but i would really appreciate your help. Thankyou |
| Yes. I have the Bushmaster piston upper. I have it mounted on a RRA lower. I have had it about a year and it is flawless. Less maintenance also, which is the main reason I bought it. I have the M4 version, A3. I have put about 500 rounds through it with no problems. No regrets. |
| I have never owned an Ar because i always heard about there jamming problems and have seen my friends have problems with theirs. The reason i have become interested in owning a Ar now is because of their new gas piston setups. Sounds like a win win rifle that cant go wrong. So if I buy an AR it has to be one with a gas piston. Thats not to say the regular gas system is bad, I just wanted a gun with the reliability of an AK. Also Sorry for not knowing but what is ACR. Thankyou very much for your help in deciding, I really appreciate your opinions because i have called many manufactures and of course there not gonna tell me anything bad about their guns they sell. So thats why i have come to you guys. Thanks again. Please let me know what you think. |
| Hey thanks for the Info. Did you buy your Bushmaster piston upper from Bushmaster? Also do you have the standard carbine handgaurds. Do you know if it is easy to change out the handguards to let say one of those Hogue overmolded free float tubes. Just curious and thanks again for your help. I know there are lots of Ar makers but i am just tryin to stick with the original makers such as bushmaster, or i wish i could have a colt. POF is not original but they seem to have the best gas pistons out there! thanks again for your help. |
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I purchased direct from Bushmaster. I am using the handguards that came with it that have aluminum liners to reflect heat from the barrel. The handguards are easy to R&R if you have the handguard removal tool which is standard and costs about $15. The Bushmaster handguards are pretty decent out of the box. If you stick with the big names like Rock River Arms, Bushmaster and Colt you won't go wrong. LAPD is going to adopt the Bushmaster piston for their department shortly according to my cousin who is an LAPD officer. So Colt does not have a monopoly on AR15s. Rock River Arms and Bushmaster also make M16s for the Armed Services. Again Colt does not have a monopoly. If you follow what the Armed Service and Police departments are buying those are the big three. |
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POF pistons are of suberb quality. Franky (pof owner) has worked hard to perfect the system. He has even let me fire his 308 and 223 caliber rifles and I will tell you they are very nice! I am developing a gas piston that cost under $15.00 to make. It works fine, but I am still perfecting different designs to see which one is the most efficient. If you or anyone is interested I could send you the blue prints. But you will need a drill press (lathe even better) taps and dies and a hardware store. So far my design can reload an ar15 with a short stroke of .75 inches. Eventually my goal is to reduce the size and stroke of the system to .5 inches. |
| I dont mean to repeat myself but would you recommend buying a bushmaster gas piston upper? Because besides yourself, i havent heard much feedback about people who own and shot the bushy gas pistons. My local gun store told me they didnt think they are good, but only they have told me that and nobody else! Thanks for you help and sorry for being a bugger but i really like to do my homework before i purchase a weapon! Reliability is first for me when i buy guns! Who cares how accurate it is if its gonna jam! Thanks for ur help |
Bushy sells BOTH the POF uppers AND the Ares drop in piston kits. It is NOT strictly POF. I personally would stick with the Ares as I don't have a lot of confidence in the POF system. They have made a habit of not making it through serious training courses very well, much less real life (other then simple range time without pushing the system). |
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Mariova, Were you asking me if I would buy a Bushy piston upper? If I had to do it over again I would. Not even a second thought. Look, if the LAPD is going to use them what does that tell you? Reliability does increase with the piston. Plus it runs cooler. I have had no problems. Does your local gunshop carry piston uppers? They probably want to sell what they have in stock, that are not piston uppers. I would not get the retrofit kit though. I would buy an Upper designed from the ground up for a piston like the Bushy Upper. ptalar |
Thanks alot man, thats makes sense. I am going to just get the entire bushy piston upper. Thats why i came on this site to get multiple opinions. Now for my second question, do you think the bushy piston upper would fit or is a wise choice to put on a carbon15 lower? Becus i have a brand new stripped carbon15 lower just sitting there. Thanks for you help again.. I made my mine im going to get the bushy piston upper. I value your opinion because you actually own the product, i trust that opinion more than somebody who doesnt own one! |
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Mariova, I really can't answer your question with confidence on the Carbon 15 Lower. I thought all uppers and lowers were interchangeable for the AR15 Rifle System for a given caliber. I assume the interchangeability with uppers is no problem. The RRA lower I have was designed for a regular gas tube upper but the lower does not care whether it was a piston upper or a gas tube upper. Phil |
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Anyone else use one of these. I am interested in them as well. Or I may wait for one of these. Gas Piston |
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