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1/31/2008 7:01:56 PM EDT
First off i would like to say what a great site.............This is my first post and my first AR.  I would like to start off by saying i did a search and did not come up with my answers.  
I am ready to purchase a AR.  I went to my local shop where i was going to get a Olympic K16.  I did not like the fit or finish of the rilfes they had, all in all I would say they were kind shooottttyyy!  So i was off to the drawing board again, then i found the DPMS Sweet 16 on line what a great lookin rifle, but i can not find much for reviews on it anywhere on the net.  i am going to use this as my primary paraire doggin and coyote gun, i found one on the net nib for 830.00 shipped.  should i just buy it or put my own together or perhaps a differnt brand? My biggest problem is I cannot hold it before i commit to it, plus i can not judge accuracy as i cannot find any reviews.  thanks in advance.......................................justin
1/31/2008 7:36:45 PM EDT
[#1]
Justin

A DPMS sweet 16 was my first AR.  They are accurate but quite heavy, and mine has a fluted barrel. I have used it Prairie Dog and Coyote hunting and the weight can be an issue.

Mine has been 100% reliable and honestly....I have beat the heck out of it.  I have gone through 30 round mags as fast as I can with laquered Wolf ammo and not had any problems. Heck, I didn't clean the chamber for the first two years I had it.

All that said, it doesn't see much shooting time since I bought a couple of lighter profile guns.  
1/31/2008 7:59:44 PM EDT
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I dont have the sweet 16 but as a testement to DPMS quality there great rifles. I have owned 2 bushmasters in the past a M4 and 20" HBAR and the DPMS is by far the best out of all 3. It has functioned flawlessly which I cant say for the 2 Bushies. Both bushmasters would short cycle or have other problems if the lub wasnt just so. With the DPMS I wiped it clean of oil and fired 60 rounds through it just to see if it was a general AR thing or not and to my suprise the DPMS performed perfectly with all 60 rnds and no lubricant. So I am sold on DPMS and am looking forward to owning one of there .308's. I would trade a little extra weight for reliability any day.
1/31/2008 9:10:54 PM EDT
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Steer clear of DPMS. What they sell is bottom of the line; had one and it was the worst firearm I've ever owned.
1/31/2008 9:28:48 PM EDT
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Steer clear of DPMS. What they sell is bottom of the line; had one and it was the worst firearm I've ever owned.


I've seen such diverse opinions on DPMS products. Can you elaborate on what problems you had with the rifle? Thanks.
1/31/2008 11:11:04 PM EDT
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Steer clear of DPMS. What they sell is bottom of the line; had one and it was the worst firearm I've ever owned.


I've seen such diverse opinions on DPMS products. Can you elaborate on what problems you had with the rifle? Thanks.

Long story short. Ordered two "Panther Bull 20" rifles. One was mine, one was a friend's. Both had a number of problems, mine were:

Poor upper/lower fit. Leak gas excessively at the gas block. Soft firing pin, was distorted by contact w/hammer. The hole in the bolt for the extractor pin was drilled too far inboard; the extractor didn't have any room to move (rifle needed a new bolt before it could be fired).

DPMS lied about the HiRider upper having a shell deflector and about the rifle having hard coat anodizing. After calling to get them to fix the issues/problems, I was told that the rifles were custom orders and DPMS would not warranty/replace/refund them.
1/31/2008 11:17:07 PM EDT
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Quoted:

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Steer clear of DPMS. What they sell is bottom of the line; had one and it was the worst firearm I've ever owned.


I've seen such diverse opinions on DPMS products. Can you elaborate on what problems you had with the rifle? Thanks.


As am I. I have had NO issues with my AP4 at all.  About 4000 rounds now.  Buy with confidence.
2/1/2008 3:01:20 AM EDT
[#7]
Ok so i am going to buy the dpms.  what are the must have upgrades?  I am sure it will need a trigger kit of some sorts, what else?  I have a few highly modified 10/22's and some pistols, also i ordered my scope last night, i got i Nikon buckmaster 6x18x40 side focus with the BDC
2/1/2008 5:15:22 AM EDT
[#8]
You won't be sorry. I own 2 DPMS rifles and both have been exceptional by my standards. 3 years/thousands of rounds on the first and 3mos./500 rounds on the second and not a single problem with either. I've been very happy and I'm sure you will be too.
2/1/2008 3:51:11 PM EDT
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Steer clear of DPMS. What they sell is bottom of the line; had one and it was the worst firearm I've ever owned.


I've seen such diverse opinions on DPMS products. Can you elaborate on what problems you had with the rifle? Thanks.

Long story short. Ordered two "Panther Bull 20" rifles. One was mine, one was a friend's. Both had a number of problems, mine were:

Poor upper/lower fit. Leak gas excessively at the gas block. Soft firing pin, was distorted by contact w/hammer. The hole in the bolt for the extractor pin was drilled too far inboard; the extractor didn't have any room to move (rifle needed a new bolt before it could be fired).

DPMS lied about the HiRider upper having a shell deflector and about the rifle having hard coat anodizing. After calling to get them to fix the issues/problems, I was told that the rifles were custom orders and DPMS would not warranty/replace/refund them.




Dont be fooled he's what they call a closet DPMS lover...
2/1/2008 3:52:36 PM EDT
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Quoted:

Quoted:

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Steer clear of DPMS. What they sell is bottom of the line; had one and it was the worst firearm I've ever owned.


I've seen such diverse opinions on DPMS products. Can you elaborate on what problems you had with the rifle? Thanks.


As am I. I have had NO issues with my AP4 at all.  About 4000 rounds now.  Buy with confidence.



I second that!
2/1/2008 6:44:19 PM EDT
[#11]
well i am going to the gun show here in KC tommorrow, we will see if i do any good local if not on monday i will send the money order off for my new AR!!!!!!!!!!!!
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