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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Not Happy With Colt (Page 1 of 5)
Posted: 12/15/2007 6:25:09 PM EDT
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I bought a Colt 6920 about 3 months ago and to my dismay I still haven't fired it. So, long story short, I go to put a mono rail on it the fiance got me for an early Christmas present and proceed to take off the hand guards. Well, I get them off and to my surprise, the barrel nut teeth are all chewed up and rounded off. The barrel wrench won't even go on the nut ? It looks like who ever put it together stretched and rounded of several of the teeth and slapped together, sending it out that way ? In new condition ? I am so fucking pissed it isn't even funny ! Not only is this POS new, but I haven't even fired it yet ! Not only that, but you'd think a $1350 gun would the cats ass ? Wouldn't you ? Well, I'll be at the shop I bought it from on Monday and if I get one ounce of BS from him or Colt, that will be the last of my business they get ! I have never had an issue like this, even with the cheaper brands ! I was just wondering if any of you have seen, heard of, or had this happen to you ? Here, take a look:      
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Damn man, I can see why youre pissed. That is absolutely unforgiveable. Is it in any way possible, the gun store had it on display with a rail system or anything like that? Not that theyd admit to beating it up, but damn. Usually Colt has good quality/control but anythings possible I guess. |
| That looks bad, and I'll call Colt about it. I would hope they could send you a new assembly. But it also looks like you should be able to get it off and to be honet, if it were mine and I was replacing it with a FF rail, I'd probably just change it and forget it. |
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Thats nasty looking, none of mine looked bad and I pulled them all apart as soon as I got home to check them out. I'd bet that BBL is on there TIGHT, someone really cranked on the nut to get the gas tube thru it. Ya know, some of the other posters are right, that BBL was removed as the damage is done on the right side of the teeth that could only be done if removing or loosening the BBL nut. Colt could have still done it if the assemblier could not get the nut tightened any further to slip in the gas tube and backed it off a bit. |
+1 not to sound shitty but I wouldn't let it bother you. Get it off and get the rail on and be done with it. How many "teeth" does your barrel wrench have? If it's 3 I don't see why it wont go on there. |
I doubt that came from Colt. I agree that someone was dicking around with that upper somewhere along the line. He's probably using a armorers wrench that engages about 270 degrees of the teeth. |
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When I bought it, it was sitting on the "rack" behind the counter at the local shop. It hadn't been touched by anyone there because they don't know anything about AR's or even how to take them down. It had to be Colt because I am the first owner. No, my barrel wrench won't fit it, I have the barrel wrench that encloses 3/4 of the nut, to prevent this very problem. I'm not even going to attempt to take it off because with my luck, I'll F it up and end up having to dremel and cold chisel the nut off. I think the store I got it from should give me a new rifle or if they don't have one, they should foot the bill to have a new upper shipped NDA from Colt. I might be a little more understanding if it was a result of my own action, but its not, I didn't even get a chance to put it in the action block and wrench on it ! Just pisses me off because even my latest build had no problems that I got from RRA and added to it. Take a look:  
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If you didn't break the seal on the box, you don't know any of that to be true. Some gun store counter guy might have decided to swap barrels after closing up, and then realized he didn't have the expertise or tools. Even more so if you say they didn't know anything about ARs. Good luck with warranty on that one, but you can still try. I think It's you and the gun shop now though. |
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Come Monday, call Colt and see what happens. I have no idea what they'll say. Hopefully they will be recepive, but this is strange. I get as many Colts as I can whenever I can, so I see and work on a fair amount of them. I know Im just one guy in one city, but I've never seen anything remotely like this. I have very rarely ever had to call Colt for warranty on any of the Colts we sell where I work. I think I had to get a 1911 and 9mm AR mag changed over the last four years. Colt replaced both within a week. So see what they say. Let us know. Stop by the store with the gun. See what they say as well. I'm telling you though, I have removed barrel nuts that were hacked up MUCH worse than that (usually by customers). I don't know whats worse though, I removed a Stag barrel nut today that had so little torque on it it surprised me! Anyway, curious to see what happens. |
Personally, I think any responsible dealer would open and inspect at least the serial of any gun coming in just to make sure the paperwork is in order. When I worked at Sportsman's this was done with every gun. |
I have an understanding with the FFL who orders my Colts from Knesek. I break the seals in his presence, and he checks the serial, records it, I do the paperwork, show my CHL, and I walk away with my Colt. I would not do it any other way. My FFL has no problem with that. I have seen too many gun shop shannanigans, especially now that Colt doesn't always mark their bolt carriers any more. Hey, if you trust everybody, to each his own. Not me, I break the seal every time. |
If you really believe that, then you get what you deserve, which is a questionable Colt which you don't know anything about its history. And apparently they know enough to sell you a questionable rifle without you noticing it for 3 months. Oh, and since you bought it 3 months ago and just now noticed this, I highly doubt you'll get anything from the gunshop. Let this be a lesson to check new firearms over IMMEDIATELY AND COMPLETELY when you buy them. It sounds like you screwed yourself and no one else is to blame. |
Sure does look flat to me also. I kept wondering why it looked funny. OP, you been screwed and not by Colt if that is flat. Good chance some "buddy" of theirs wanted to swap it out. No way Colt put a flat one on from the factory. |
BBL and upper receiver might be correct but that isn't the ring that came on it from the factory, thing looks beat up and used. My used for a couple years 6920 isn't that beat looking yet.   
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| After 3 months, your screwed. It doesn't matter who messed it up. You can go to court and say the gun shop screwed me and his defense is going to be we sold a new rifle, it's been 3 months and the buyer had plenty of time to do this damage himself and blame somebody else. |
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Some body always has to turn one of my threads into a cluster fuck ! Its is a Delta ring, its is black, it is conical shaped, and yes all of it is correctly marked for a Colt ! Yes, it is a 6920 and not a fucking old flat ringed colt from way back. I'm so sorry I'm not a fucking spectacular photographer or that I take pictures for a living. So, I'm supposed to dis- assemble every God Damn gun I buy right there in the store and check every part ? Give me a break ! The nut is under the hand guard and I didn't even think to take the HG's off. After all, its a fucking Colt, you know the best of the best ? The guy I bought it from isn't a fucking thief, an idiot maybe. It is just him and his dad their selling guns and he has quite a good reputation in this town, which by the way is quite small and if he were doing such things, he wouldn't of been in business for the last 20 years. He doesn't even carry AR parts, so what in the hell would he take it apart for ? All of the above is besides the point, my point is I didn't do it and I'm sure as hell not taking the responsibility for it. To come in here and start throwing random accusations around about people, especially when you know none of them, is absolutely rediculous ! I was simply asking for opinions on the situation, not insults and accusations. I also don't want to Fuck with a gun thats already fucked up to begin with. Lets say for argument sake, I do half to take the nut off and the reason its all fubar is they tightened to damn tight. What do I do to get it off if its stuck on the receiver ? Do you think I could file those teeth some what, so I can get my wrench on it ? |
Who is bleeping accusing THEM? And you're an ungrateful git and I'm done. See ya! |
I wouldn't work on it at all. I would want Colt to fix this for me. The ring did look weird in that pic, but if you say it is right then cool. I would put the handguards on and take it to the shop you got it at. Have the guy to call Colt and see what they will do for you. Don't accept that mistake unless you have made every attempt to make the person responsible fix it. That is how I would handle it. |
That damage is not from tightening the nut. It is from removing it. Look at the peening. As an aside, your attitude sucks and you're not likely to get much help here, at the gunshop, or from Colt acting like an ass. |
You're an idiot. You got what you deserve and I hope you don't get a damn thing from anyone. |
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The upper/barrel assembly is not a factory job. It is a SOCOM weight barrel. 6920s don't come with SOCOM weight barrels. You have a mutt. Its not Colts problem. Post pictures of your entire gun so we can see what else is wrong so we can help you. You are going to sell your barrel off with the damaged nut and get a new barrel. Somebody in your Hometown forum might be able to install it for you. You will not try to replace the barrel nut. |
I can't tell what type of barrel it is, could you explain how you knew that. I just need to learn a little more. Thank in advance. |
The barrel is too heavy past the chamber for it to be a regular profile. It also has a slight step in the barrel where the chamber tapers into the body of the barrel. This is common on these barrels. |
At least some good info has come out of this thread. |
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