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8/19/2007 4:39:08 PM EDT
I am interested in getting an upper for my Bushmaster XM 15 and would like to get feedback on experiences/opions on 6.8 SPC Vs. 6.5 Grendel. I will be reloading and plan to use the new setup mainly for targets from 100 to 300 yards and a little hunting.
8/22/2007 7:22:01 AM EDT
[#2]
Thanks for the info, especially the links. If I had found those first, I would not have taken up the space. I believe I can learn a lot on the AR in general and specifically the variants.
8/22/2007 8:48:12 AM EDT
[#3]
6.5Grendel will be your best choice.

I have several AR15s, none of which are 6.8SWC (Special Weak Cartridge)

I am a fan of .270win but not 6.8spc

I do own a Grendel, and I would challenge you to find a round that does everything it can do, and fit in the magazine.
8/26/2007 8:34:53 AM EDT
[#4]
Buy the Bushmaster 6.8 SPC upper they sell separately - it will slap right on to the lower you have.
8/26/2007 8:48:14 AM EDT
[#5]

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Buy the Bushmaster 6.8 SPC upper they sell separately - it will slap right on to the lower you have.

Are you saying a 6.8 SPC Upper will fit a 5.56 lower andf opperate? I know nothing about 6.8 SPC, only reason Im asking.
Ive been thinking of building an SPR upper to go with my carbine... If 6.8 SPC will work that way then Im all over it!
8/26/2007 9:12:08 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
6.5Grendel will be your best choice.

I have several AR15s, none of which are 6.8SWC (Special Weak Cartridge)

I am a fan of .270win but not 6.8spc

I do own a Grendel, and I would challenge you to find a round that does everything it can do, and fit in the magazine.


Funny, I can get 2600fps out of a 130gr .277 and a 18" barrel  in my 6.8 can you get that out of a Grendel without breaking the bolt?

2700 from a 120gr
over 3000 from a 90gr
8/26/2007 9:15:22 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Buy the Bushmaster 6.8 SPC upper they sell separately - it will slap right on to the lower you have.

Are you saying a 6.8 SPC Upper will fit a 5.56 lower andf opperate? I know nothing about 6.8 SPC, only reason Im asking.
Ive been thinking of building an SPR upper to go with my carbine... If 6.8 SPC will work that way then Im all over it!


Yes, If you want the best performance use a 1:11" twist barrel and a LMT bolt and carrier.
8/26/2007 1:14:23 PM EDT
[#8]

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Quoted:

Quoted:
Buy the Bushmaster 6.8 SPC upper they sell separately - it will slap right on to the lower you have.

Are you saying a 6.8 SPC Upper will fit a 5.56 lower andf opperate? I know nothing about 6.8 SPC, only reason Im asking.
Ive been thinking of building an SPR upper to go with my carbine... If 6.8 SPC will work that way then Im all over it!


Yes the upper will work with any AR lower, you will want to get some PRi, C Products or Barrett 6.8 Mags, but you should have no issues putting the upper of your choice onto your currentl 5.56/223 lower.  Your in Texas, you need a bigger bore then .22 for getting after those hogs...

Thats no lie! Ive been tree'd by a few hogs, and thats no fun!!
6.8 ought to fair pretty good against them yotee's too
8/26/2007 1:27:20 PM EDT
[#9]
the best would be the 6mm grendel not the 6.5 or 6.8 imo
8/26/2007 2:45:21 PM EDT
[#10]
I think the 6.8 is a better all-around choice than the 6.5 Gargamel.

There is a lot of info on the subject though, and certainly each person comes to their own conclusions.
8/27/2007 7:13:13 AM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
I am interested in getting an upper for my Bushmaster XM 15 and would like to get feedback on experiences/opions on 6.8 SPC Vs. 6.5 Grendel. I will be reloading and plan to use the new setup mainly for targets from 100 to 300 yards and a little hunting.


Foreget the hyper of either and let's focus on your requirements last to first.

You indicated hunting was desireed, either will do for that.

Secondly you want to engage targets out to 300y - either caliber will do that as well.  Matter of fact standard loads for either are ballistically similar to 500y

Now lets get to what you first you will be reloading.  You will find that reloading for the 6.8 is less expensive as the brass is less expensive.  At this time there are 3 sources of brass for 6.8:
SSA - excellent brass available in bulk ($120/500 from Kotonics)
Remmington - good brass available in bulk ($140/500)
Hornady - only available after you shoot their rounds

6.5:
Lapua - excellent brass $72/100
Alexander Arms - (IIRC it's Lapua but stamped AA) $50/100 From Alexander Arms
Wolf - only available after you shoot the rounds
Note currently all the 6.5 is imported (thought there is a domestic company comming online with ammo - and possible brass in the near future).

Or you can buy 7.62x39 brass and go through the process of fire forming it:
at a cost of $130/500 (winchester)


Dies?
Everybody makes a 6.8 SPC die set (and Lee has a 6.8 FCD as standard production).  With Grendel you do have a choice of a few brands, but it's not as varied and prices are generally twice that of the 6.8 (Lee being the exception $39 for a 3 die 6.8 set - $49 for a 6.5G set).

Unless you are that 0.5% that actually shoot above 600M regularly, the 6.8 is a more cost effective choice.  If you are one of thoe that shoot regulalry above 600M then by all means the 6.5G is what you are looking for.
8/27/2007 7:15:57 AM EDT
[#12]

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Funny, I can get 2600fps out of a 130gr .277 and a 18" barrel  in my 6.8 can you get that out of a Grendel without breaking the bolt?


For those of you keeping score at home - that 'Major Power Factor' (for those 3-gun matches with major/minor classification).

With a 130gr all one needs is 2462fps, so it makes 'Major' by a wide margine - with only an 18" barrel on an AR-15 platform....
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