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Posted: 8/10/2007 8:10:23 PM EDT
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OK - centered upon LW and POF -- They've been out now for a while and enough guys have had enough time to beat the crap out of them. Bottom line with no BS -- which one has a better track record of reliability? Are all the issues finally worked out of each that were problems initially but now resolved? Trying to sift through the usual ARFCOM opinions to find the hard facts. J223... |
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Both seem to have alot of very happy owners. Pick the one you like better, but I've always found the POF to be the better design with it's simple, more traditional gas cylinder, piston and op rod. There sold by POF, DSA and Bushmaster so the design is pretty damn solid. You can also buy spare parts for them were you can't seem to with the LWRC. The LWRC also mixes a spring in the piston action above the barrel where the POF doesn't and that's another part to wearout and go bad. An important part too as far as I'm concerned.  |
| Noone has had that spring fail in the LWRC. It will work for over 11,000 rounds as it has in the one members rifle who had that many through his. You can get spare springs as well. It is a total non issue. I wish people would stick to facts instead of suppositions. |
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I think someone mentioned their op rod on the POF broke on the end where the larger diamteter shoulder of the rod is suddenly cut down into a smaller diameter. Nobody else has had the problem that I have seen mentioned. I imagine it would be an easy redesign IF it warrented it. Simply make a gradual diameter change instead of a shoulder. However, just looks like it was normal defective part. -Foxxz |
All I said is it's another part to wear and an important part too. Whether a person doesn't care about it or does is their choice. I do. It's certainly not like other great weapons don't use springs that wearout. An M14 op rod spring doesn't normallly last that long before needing to be replaced. I thought you had said before LWRC had consider it a 20,000 round replacement, so whether someone has worn one out now isn't really my point as the rifles have only been around so long and people only have so many rounds down them. I would think a person could replace it though when they change their barrel out and never have a problem with it. Either way I still don't like the LWRC design more even though I find it to still be a good rifle. 
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when will they become affordable?
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I really don't see them as that much more. You can get a basic POF or Bushmaster upper for a 1000 dollars and put it on any lower you want. You can pick up a nice complete lower for between 200 and 300 so all together that puts you in around 1300. Alot of complete DI AR's go for about a 1000 out the door or more in the higher end brand names so it's really not that big of a difference. People try to make it out as so much more all the time and that carries on through other members echoing it so more get the idea put into their head that a DI AR is a big savings. Not necessarily. If you build one cheaper or put one together with a good priced basic lower and upper there will be a greater spread, but on average to me most seem to spend very close it or more for their DI AR's. Take your basic Colt 6920 as an example that many like to drool over and suggest others buy. At $1499.00 where's the savings? 6920 at Atlantic There a nice AR, and I've always found the quality very good, but I sure wouldn't want one instead of this and I've got about the same in it,  |
After shooting a Daewoo and my LWRC I can say the Daewoo does not hold a cadle on any level or in any facet of its use. Optic mounting, trigger, accuracy, etc all go to the LWRC. It is far from the perfect piston designed weapon IMO. While the POF is a matter of taste compared to the LWRC, the K2 is not in the same league. |
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