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7/26/2007 12:12:08 PM EDT
Hi, i just wondering if you guys knew anything about FS2000's like their overall reliability/perfomance to that of an AR-15 platform, also if anyone knew the price of one id greatly appreciate this information, thank you.
7/26/2007 12:30:55 PM EDT
[#1]
I would give it another 30 or 40 years or so. Then we will see how it has held up.
7/26/2007 12:59:54 PM EDT
[#2]

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I would give it another 30 or 40 years or so. Then we will see how it has held up.



+1 Though I do want one.

I wouldnt compare it to the AR
7/26/2007 1:02:11 PM EDT
[#3]
From what I understand, they are a little over $2000 (might be wrong), and I've heard good things about the system, but the have a trigger pull of around nine pounds, which is more than a "little heavy."  The safety on the fs2000 looks fairly difficult to operate and so does the mag release.  I'd go with a simple AR, that way you'll have some money left over to feed it.
7/26/2007 2:26:38 PM EDT
[#4]
Don't know about the reliability and such, but my local gun pusher has a couple, and they just don't feel right in hand to me.
7/26/2007 6:13:31 PM EDT
[#5]
A friend of mine has one.  Light weight, shoots good.  I didn't like the trigger, seemed junky for such an expensive rifle.  He doesn't bring it out much so I have to wonder if the expense was worth it to him.  Personally, unless I just had to add another 556 caliber rifle to my inventory I would pass.
7/26/2007 6:35:13 PM EDT
[#6]
just like anything thing new, therees going to be a slplit with most people unless its being used by the special forces and or not availible to them,  if thats the case, then most will greatly desire said guns

personally my 10.5 LMT is going to be my SHTF weapon for a long time, but as a lover of guns i like all of the new assualt rifle that are coming out

while not perfect it has been adopted bya number of militray and police units so i am confident that they are more reliable then most people think since they are plastic.  

if it were me, i would make every effort to buy every rnew rifle comming out as once hitlery gets in office its game over and, no new rifles
7/26/2007 6:51:43 PM EDT
[#7]
I've only handled one at a gun shop but damn did that thing balance nicely.  It was like having an 18" SBR!    I'd love to shoot one and see if it lives up to the image that I have in my head of it!



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if it were me, I would make every effort to buy every new rifle coming out as once Hitlery gets in office its game over and, no new rifles


No chance with prah backing bama! As much as I hate to admit it Oprah has some major influence.
7/26/2007 7:20:38 PM EDT
[#8]
i hope obama gets the primaries selection, he will have zero chance of winning, honselty i dont see any other canidate being able to win,   there are SOOOOOO, many idiots who love the Klintons enough to put her in if republicans dont show up at the polls


in short buy while you can, this is the golden age of evil black rifles, one school shooting under her watch and helo ne executive order banng them
7/26/2007 7:23:17 PM EDT
[#9]
It's the most comfortable rifle I've ever fired. I've only put around 500 rounds through it so far, though with no issues. The trigger isn't as bad as some people say it is, though it isn't anything to be proud of. I'm not sure what the pull is, but I would guess less than 7lbs.

The safety is annoying, the mags don't drop free, there is no last round bolt hold and the only access to the action is suspiciously small. If you can get past those things, I think it'll be a good rifle.

I bought mine hoping to use it as my go to gun for HD, but I don't find myself trusting it enough yet. Maybe in time, but for now my AR will remain my main gun.



7/26/2007 7:46:31 PM EDT
[#10]
It's a bullpup that uses AR-15 mags, so was the Bushmaster M-17S...it was an OK gun with a bad trigger too.
Only thing I like about bullpups is that you get the rifle length barrel in a sub gun sized package-with nice balance. The triggers usually suck, action is happening right under your cheek weld, and mag changes are awkward....but, it's up to your personal feelings on them. Ya either love 'em or ya hate 'em.
7/26/2007 9:06:19 PM EDT
[#11]
One thing it has over the M17S is the ejection path.  My M17S is RH only.
7/26/2007 9:40:20 PM EDT
[#12]




I own both.  

I find that the FS2000 is a very comfortable rifle to shoot, much more so to me than my AR's.  It can be one handed like nothing else I have ever played with and works great with a single point sling, and gives you the velocity of a 17 inch barrel in a short handy package.

The trigger is heavy, as previously stated, but follow up shots are extremely quick as the reset is very short.  A libeal lube job will also really help smooth things out.

The mags do not drop free as configured from the factory, however, I removed the gaskets from mine that prevent this and now enjoy drop-free mag changes.  So far, I have not noticed any ill effects from this.  I have been told, although I can't confirm, that the miliary version of this rifle is delivered without these gaskets.

Theres no bolt hold open.  No way around that except your left arm.

Rail real estate is also a little sparse if you like to play around with other goodies like I do.  Although ihere is a cutout template in the handguard where you can insert a light, and I have added a screw on rail on the right side of the upper.

My biggest qualm about it versus the AR is in an "immediate action required" type scenario.  While my FS2000 has been reasonably reliable, I have had a couple of stoppages (could be ammo related, could be break-in related), and when you do, you better hope yanking the charging handle clears things up, because if not, it can take some doing to get back up and running.  You have to push the pin, separate the upper from the lower, pull the action assembly out of the lower, pull off the recoil pad if you need to access the trigger, etc.  There's just not a quick way to go about it that I have found.

I'm glad I bought the FS2000.  It's become my 3-gun match carbine due to its ease of handling and behavior with a single point sling.  However, living in Houston, if the SHTF with a hurricane or some other type of event, my 6920 is the rifle thats going with me before any other.  I just can't imagine needing your rifle RIGHT THE F#*& NOW and having to break it down into four or five pieces to get it up and running.  Spare parts are also a bitch to get out of FN right now, I imagine they would be about as common as kryptonite in some kind of real civil disturbance.

To sum it up, the FS2000 is the most fun carbine I own to play with.  But, if I have to reach for a rifle to protect myself or my family, or if I could have only one, it would be an AR.

7/27/2007 5:56:38 AM EDT
[#13]

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The safety is annoying, the mags don't drop free, there is no last round bolt hold and the only access to the action is suspiciously small. If you can get past those things, I think it'll be a good rifle.



Wow, you mentioned about three deal breakers for me right there!  For an AR competitor, my money is on Magpul's Masada.

7/27/2007 6:42:29 AM EDT
[#14]
Although I've never heard of this happening (yet... it's a new rifle), in the event of a kaboom I sure don't like the fact that my face is right over the action... but that's my biggest beef (along with several smaller ones, mentioned by others above) with bullpup designs.
7/27/2007 7:53:54 AM EDT
[#15]
Thank you everybody for ur input, got a lot of information about this rifle that i  wasn't aware off thanks again, and avslash nice kitchen
7/27/2007 8:33:01 AM EDT
[#16]
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Although I've never heard of this happening (yet... it's a new rifle), in the event of a kaboom I sure don't like the fact that my face is right over the action... but that's my biggest beef (along with several smaller ones, mentioned by others above) with bullpup designs.



I don't think there would be a huge difference between having a case failure in this rifle and with an AR-15. First, with the common nose-to-CH weld that many people use, your face isn't exactly far from the AR's action. Not far enough to matter, anyway. Second, the plastic shell on the FS2000 is quite thick (much thicker than a Glock's frame or PMAG bodies), and there's quite a bit of empty internal space, which I believe would help dissipate and redirect the blast.

The AUG has been in use since the 70's and is a highly regarded weapon. To be honest, I think we Americans just tend to be more suspiscious of and slow to adopt new technologies in weapons. Even after seeing how effective the StG44 was in WWII, we shoved the idea of the full-powered 7.62 down NATO's throat and took what, 20 years to realize that we were wrong? Then we decide that 5.56 was too small and now, 50 years later, we're looking at "intermediate" calibers like the 6.8 and 6.5 Grendel that are very similar to what FN was trying to chamber the FAL in 50 years ago...

That's the circuitous way of saying that I like my FS2000. Maybe better than the AR.
7/27/2007 9:34:27 AM EDT
[#17]
i've only fired a few rounds out of an F2000, but i can say that they're quite nice. the only thing i don't like is the fact that they feel too bulky for their weight. if they trimmed some of the excess plastic off, it would be a lot nicer weapon.
7/27/2007 9:59:05 AM EDT
[#18]
It does seem blocky, but very lightweight. I didn't like how the mags were removed, but it can be fixed. I definitely want one since I already bought a PS90. And like a lot of people are saying , these will probably not available to purchase forever.
7/27/2007 10:10:14 AM EDT
[#19]
my review

They're fun and all, but to me it's just a toy right now. Whereas my AR15 could also be also be called upon as a tool, and I would trust it as such.

Price-wise, an FS2000 will set you back a couple grand, just for the stock rifle.
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