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5/4/2007 6:29:39 PM EDT
Although I was originally looking for a 16" barrel I ended up getting the Bushmaster 11.5" Bbl. Carbine W. 5.5" Suppressor in A3

Now what shall I add to it ?

Any pros or cons to this particular model?


http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q185/chasesigi/100_5168.jpg
5/4/2007 6:30:58 PM EDT
[#1]
you definitely have a 16" bbl. not a 11.5/5.5.  Leave it alone.  Maybe down the road add an optic, but master the irons first.
5/4/2007 6:34:43 PM EDT
[#2]
Actually it is the 11.5 / 5.5
5/4/2007 6:51:14 PM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
Actually it is the 11.5 / 5.5


No, it is the 16" with a A2 FH
5/4/2007 6:52:35 PM EDT
[#4]
Not to get into an argument but the upper on the rifle you described would look more like this than the one in your photo.

5/4/2007 6:52:56 PM EDT
[#5]
Yeah, that ain't no 11.5/5.5 brother.
5/4/2007 6:54:18 PM EDT
[#6]
add ammo.
5/4/2007 6:54:35 PM EDT
[#7]
The 16" is a better choice be happy thats what you ended up with.
5/4/2007 6:55:06 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
Not to get into an argument but the upper on the rifle you described would look more like this than the one in your photo.

i90.photobucket.com/albums/k245/useridstephen/bura2b11.jpg


Yep.  Chase, if it is 11.5", then the picture is the wrong one because that is a 16" barrel in the photo.
5/4/2007 6:59:48 PM EDT
[#9]
OK now I am wondering if this is the 14.5" Barrel and not the 11.5" barrel ... How can I tell ?

It says XM15 - ES2 on the Rifle...

M4A3 is handwritten on the case.  

The more I look at it and compare it to the catalog it looks like the 14.5" barrel.  

Can anyone shed some light for this newbie ?
5/4/2007 7:03:43 PM EDT
[#10]
it is not a 14.5" barrel.  It is a 16" barrel.  Stick a cleaning rod down the barrel and measure it.  It was 14.5" bbl., the distance out to the end of the bbl would still be < 16" w/ the A2 FS.
5/4/2007 7:04:36 PM EDT
[#11]
TRUST US.

It is a 16" with a NON-perm attached A2 flash hider.
5/4/2007 7:07:13 PM EDT
[#12]
It looks like a 16" to me.

14.5



16



Personally I like a 16 better than a 14.5 and no one really likes those 11.5/5.5 deals.

Great carbine
5/4/2007 7:07:48 PM EDT
[#13]
That pic looks like a regular A2 flash hider on your barrel there.  That would probably make it a 16".  If you had a pinned on Phantom, or a extended A2 (don't think Bushy does the extended A2 anyway) you may have a 14.5".

Be happy with the 16".  It will serve you well.  By the way, where in NC is this rifle? My collection is in the triad area.

edit:  I have got to take some typing lessons.
5/4/2007 7:08:35 PM EDT
[#14]
eh...

11.5, 14.5  I bet you money the total length is 16" or more.

Execllent choice on the flattop.  MANY optics...ahem options to choose from.  But as listed above master the irons, anyone can shoot with a scope/red dot.

Above all a sweet purchase.

David
5/4/2007 7:10:04 PM EDT
[#15]
www.bushmaster.com/shopping/weapons/bcwa3f16m4.asp

5/4/2007 7:28:20 PM EDT
[#16]
I 40th that it is definitely a 16" barrel.
5/4/2007 7:32:01 PM EDT
[#17]
ok, thats a 16in bbl w/ an A2; its not a 14.5 or a 11.5...trust us

get: USGI mags, quality ammo, a good sling
5/4/2007 7:35:45 PM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
add ammo.


Ya' beat me to it.
5/4/2007 7:38:41 PM EDT
[#19]
Trust what they're saying.  We're not steering you wrong.

Nothing wrong with a 16"er.

Sweet carbine.
5/4/2007 7:39:22 PM EDT
[#20]
Like I said 16" w/ A2.   Good choice & nice rifle.  It will serve you well.  
5/4/2007 8:39:57 PM EDT
[#21]
Its probably the M4 profile barrel that threw you on the length. Its a damned fine choice, even though you didn't know you made it. Buy some ammo and have fun.
5/4/2007 9:55:42 PM EDT
[#22]

Good choice.  My first AR was that same exact bushmaster model.
It has run like a top for me.

And yes, it is definitely a 16in M4 profile barrel...
5/5/2007 12:10:23 AM EDT
[#23]
Congradulations on your new AR and welcome to the black rifle club. What you have is a full 16" barrel with A2 flashider. Its a good thing too, though. This rifle will be much more accurate than the 11.5 would have been and at the same overall barrel length.hathttp://ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=18&t=280593


WELCOME BROTHER
5/5/2007 12:32:11 AM EDT
[#24]
That is definately a 16" barrel model with the M4 profile cut. The 16" length is simply to stay on the legal side of things.

Before you shoot it, completely clean & lube the rifle. New guns usually come coated in cosmoline which will more than likely cause malfunctions in your AR15. You don't wan't that on your first trip, trust me.

ETA, also heres a useful link on properly sighting in your iron sights Zeroing Methods
5/5/2007 12:49:04 AM EDT
[#25]
I doub't the guy would have sold you a short barreled gun if you didn't have the proper paper work komrade
and not to dogpile but that's a 16"
5/5/2007 1:18:47 AM EDT
[#26]
Nah, your all wrong it's a 20"
5/5/2007 4:20:23 AM EDT
[#27]
I have slept off the Eufora of this new addition to our family :-)

So according to you great folks here on this forum

I have the

Bushmaster M4 Type "Patrolman's" Carbine with A2 Birdcage Flash Suppressor (at least that is how the catalog describes it)
Thanks to meade for this link to the exact modelwww.bushmaster.com/shopping/weapons/bcwa3f16m4.asp

I appreciate the input and clarification, Once I got home with it I figured it would be a good idea to find out what model it is hased
All 16 inches of it h
5/5/2007 4:44:43 AM EDT
[#28]
Be glad you got a Bushmaster and not an Olympic.  Bleh.
5/5/2007 4:47:32 AM EDT
[#29]
Well its MSRP is $1230

I paid $950  


Seemed like a good deal to me, But I didn't shop around much because I had been looking at Rock River and Stag.  
5/5/2007 4:50:26 AM EDT
[#30]
I got my DPMS AP4 for $750.  And yes it works fine, I don't plan on going to war with it.  Hmpf.
5/5/2007 4:53:51 AM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:
Well its MSRP is $1230

I paid $950  


Seemed like a good deal to me, But I didn't shop around much because I had been looking at Rock River and Stag.  


It's a fair deal.  Don't sweat it if someone tells you otherwise.  No go shoot the pee pee out of it.
5/5/2007 7:42:23 AM EDT
[#32]
And Chase, just to be clear, you got a GOOD thing.  You can swap out the FH if you wish since it is not permanent and you have better muzzle velocity.  Nice rifle!
5/5/2007 8:24:23 AM EDT
[#33]
I love my patrolman, you have a great carbine there.  Be proud!
5/5/2007 8:32:47 AM EDT
[#34]
Hey Chase,
                I have the same carbine, and it was my first last year! It is an awsome carbine. I hope that you get another, now that you got the bug! I just finished building my second one.
5/5/2007 9:56:17 AM EDT
[#35]

Quoted:
I have slept off the Eufora of this new addition to our family :-)

So according to you great folks here on this forum

I have the

Bushmaster M4 Type "Patrolman's" Carbine with A2 Birdcage Flash Suppressor (at least that is how the catalog describes it)
Thanks to meade for this link to the exact modelwww.bushmaster.com/shopping/weapons/bcwa3f16m4.asp

I appreciate the input and clarification, Once I got home with it I figured it would be a good idea to find out what model it is

I also purchased 500 rds of Federal Brass .223  ... so now it is time to break this puppy in.  

All 16 inches of it

BTW I am located North of Charlotte, NC



Hey Chase,

If you haven't been yet, jump over to the Hometown Forums for the Carolinas.  Bunch of good people over there that will help you with that rifles break-in period...
5/5/2007 10:13:23 AM EDT
[#36]
Patrolman's Carbine was my first as well.  Its the hot shit for n00bs.  Very good choice.  Not having a permanently attached flash hider is a good thing IMHO.
The one you got is a much better choice than the one you thought you had.  Spend some time on here and learn as much as you can, and keep us updated on your progress!  These rifles are great fun, and you probably just have the first of many.
5/5/2007 3:39:01 PM EDT
[#37]
chasesigi,

after you spend a little time with us here at AR15.com, you will be VERY glad you got the 16"!  You will learn that you get better velocity and longer fragmentation range from your ammo and if you ever decide to sell it or trade it, you acctually have some resale value!  


Now you need:
A good sling
Ammo
Extra mags
good quality cleaning gear!
(ie: bore guide, one piece coated guide rod, ect....)
Range time.


Spend some quality time with your new carbine and learn to use it as is. In the fall you can start looking into optics, handguards and a billion little things to trick it out. But right now the most important thing you can do is learn to shoot it stock. Until you really learn how to operate it properly, any additional gear you buy will be more for decoration than utility.

Congratulations and welcome to the world of the EBR.



www.talonarms.com
5/5/2007 4:09:04 PM EDT
[#38]
Talon is Right. The 16 is far superior to the 11.5/5.5 set up. There is no point in losing velocity if you don't have a shorter more maneuverable rifle. Spend some time getting to know your new best friend both inside and out. Spend lots of time at the range with some extra mags and ammo and then once you are used to using the irons then you can look into optics like an aimpoint, eotech, elcan, acog, or whatever floats your boat. As for a basic sling right now a simple three point will do. Eagle industries makes one called the TAS-3 its both simple and effective. Go ahead and pick up some extra mags from one of the dealers on the board. I say buy as many as you can afford to  but 5-6 would do. This would allow you to spend more time shooting and less time loading. And above all have fun!  


ETA: hey Talon do you have a retail location?
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