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11/8/2006 5:25:50 PM EDT
I have 3 lowers that are begging to get completed. Looking for the best deal for a LPK.

Thanks
Matt
11/8/2006 5:34:20 PM EDT
[#1]
I love RRA and STAG but ive heard people here say its all CMT anywaythose are the only 2 LPKs I use and stag has notchless hammers too.DPMS does as well but seem not well made and a bit thinner than the STAG one.
11/8/2006 5:34:35 PM EDT
[#2]
Bushmaster And RRA Both make nice LPK's.

Nathan
11/8/2006 5:34:57 PM EDT
[#3]
I vote Stag
11/8/2006 5:38:19 PM EDT
[#4]
I've got a DPMS LPK in my Mega lower.  Seems to be pretty good quality.  I'll let u know in a few weeks when I get it finished.
11/8/2006 8:47:00 PM EDT
[#5]
Stag, RRA, and Armalite get my vote for the most common, easy to get, under $60 LPK for the fit and finish

DPMS is usually a little cheaper, but i would not opt for em again if i could help getting one fo the above first

ETA: the only reason i had some qualms w/ the DPMS LPK i got: missing a pin and spring; my trigger guard pin and mag release pin were too large for my MEGA lower, finish is a dark grey, needed black
11/8/2006 8:56:32 PM EDT
[#6]
Thank you
11/8/2006 8:57:47 PM EDT
[#7]
I have used Colt, ArmaLite and DPMS LPK's. I have used the DPMS LPK's the most and no problems at all.
11/8/2006 9:29:52 PM EDT
[#8]
Armalite & STAG
11/8/2006 9:43:58 PM EDT
[#9]
It's pretty much a commodity item, like paper towels.
11/9/2006 1:34:44 AM EDT
[#10]
I have used LPKs from Oly, Bushmaster and DPMS. The Bushmasters LPKs have the best trigger pulls, but they use than damn notched hammer which can ccause damage to the FP retaining pin.

The DPMS are damn cheap at $44.00 (trade discount) from brownells.
11/9/2006 4:50:36 AM EDT
[#11]
I have RRA in both my rifles.

Acceptable military grade trigger pull out of the box. Heavy, but just fine for a battle rifle.

I will be trying the RRA 2 stage next.
11/9/2006 5:02:56 AM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
It's pretty much a commodity item, like paper towels.


Not really.  I've had bad parts of unknown origin cause two shot bursts in one of my guns.

11/9/2006 5:15:55 AM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:

Quoted:
It's pretty much a commodity item, like paper towels.


Not really.  I've had bad parts of unknown origin cause two shot bursts in one of my guns.



Ok, I should say that they're pretty much the same if you get them from one of the bigger brands...given that, I've never seen a difference.  Don't go buy some brand you've never heard of (or some that we _have_ heard of. )
11/9/2006 5:25:21 AM EDT
[#14]
I used Armalite in the Stag lower that I assembled a couple of weeks ago. The only thing I'm not too sure on is the bolt stop. It's got serrations down the entire surface instead of just on the round pad like all others I've seen. I'm not concerned about the quality of the part, it's just got a different feel that I've got to get used to.

Oh yeah, the neat little green box is a bonus!
11/9/2006 5:46:25 AM EDT
[#15]
Don't forget J&T/DSC.  They have a good price on a quality LPK.  Otherwise, CMT/Stag LPK's work well also.
11/9/2006 7:10:02 AM EDT
[#16]
I agree - it isn't like paper towels in my opinion.  

The plastic mag release and trigger guard bug the crap out of me.  Will they wor fine? of course.  Do I want them on my rifle?  no no

I have used DPMS and RRA.  Quality of both is excellent.  

SC
11/9/2006 7:36:32 AM EDT
[#17]
STAG ARMS
11/9/2006 7:36:33 AM EDT
[#18]
From what I've seen the most consistent in parts quality have been RRA and CMT/Stag.
11/9/2006 9:28:35 AM EDT
[#19]
Its their design - AR10 style. I've gotten used to them now and prefer them for manual lockbacks, etc.


Quoted:
The only thing I'm not too sure on is the bolt stop. It's got serrations down the entire surface instead of just on the round pad like all others I've seen. I'm not concerned about the quality of the part, it's just got a different feel that I've got to get used to.

Oh yeah, the neat little green box is a bonus!
11/9/2006 10:00:08 AM EDT
[#20]
I've used RRA, Stag, and DPMS.

I perceived no difference between the first two brands, and everything went together beautifully.

I have used 5 DPMS kits; two for my personal builds and three on a buddy's lowers.

The DPMS roll pins for the bolt catch lever and the trigger guard were significantly oversized on EVERY SINGLE one that we had.  So much so that we had to pound and hammer on them waay more than one should have to.  My buddy couldn't get the roll pin all the way in on his trigger guard.  He says it's functional so he's OK with it.  I actually felt I might break the trigger guard tab on the lower because of the amount of heavy hammering required to push the pin all the way in for my trigger guard.

The RRA and Stag pins were pushed in with a rollpin punch and no hammer, then tapped lightly to make flush.  In fact, the DPMS roll pins mentioned did not fit in the roll pin punch holes that I used on the other two because they were too large.

For the extra hassle of the DPMS, I'd prefer RRA or Stag for the extra $5 - $7 they cost.
11/9/2006 10:39:02 AM EDT
[#21]
I've used RRA LPK's and a DPMS LPK. Although I think RRA makes superior products, the trigger pull on the RRA trigger is anything but smooth/nice/clean. But it is still acceptable for a battle carbine.

The DPMS hasn't given me problems (no out of spec pins or anything, no malfunctions), but one good thing about the DPMS is that the trigger pull is VERY nice. It's so nice, it is bordering on 2-stage nice. Very clean trigger pull on the DPMS. I was very impressed with the feel of the DPMS trigger pull, it's a night and day difference over my RRA triggers.
11/9/2006 6:15:49 PM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
... but one good thing about the DPMS is that the trigger pull is VERY nice. It's so nice, it is bordering on 2-stage nice. Very clean trigger pull on the DPMS. I was very impressed with the feel of the DPMS trigger pull, it's a night and day difference over my RRA triggers.


You know, I did notice that as well.  RRA triggers are very heavy (to me) and gritty, and the DPMS triggers are exactly as described.

Maybe I'll just invest in some extra roll pins.  They're a lot cheaper than good triggers!
11/10/2006 4:46:50 AM EDT
[#23]
My Stag LPKs that I ordered from Carolina Tactical have all been perfect.

I vote Stag.
11/10/2006 5:58:00 PM EDT
[#24]
I just ordered a armalite lpk w/ 2 stage trigger.  I can't wait to try it out.  I will post results when it is complete.
11/10/2006 6:27:32 PM EDT
[#25]
I have used Armalite, CMMG, and RRA with great results.
11/10/2006 6:34:44 PM EDT
[#26]
I have done two builds in the last year with Stag LPKs.  Most of the parts look like the usual stuff from any quaility manufacturer, but I can say, BOTH have produced above average trigger pulls in a lower from Bushmaster and another from Denny.  They are of the highest quality in my book.
11/10/2006 7:12:07 PM EDT
[#27]
Mine was DPMS LPK in a RRA lower with an RRA NM trigger added. Went together fine.

Roomate #2, I just did a RRA LPK with the trigger, and I had to fuck with the selector detent for twenty minutes. The detent dents in the selector itself lined up just right with the point on the detent to totally lock the selector. Cut a couple loops off the spring and filed the detent a bit and it worked out OK.

I can get DPMS for 44 bucks wholesale rate from Brownell's, I'll stick to those. I LOVE those RRA triggers though.
11/12/2006 8:25:30 PM EDT
[#28]
Just put another DPMS LPK in a RRA lower...

The two roll pins I mentioned earlier were again oversized, as in, they do not fit in the correctly sized holes in the roll pin starter punches I got from Steve @ ADCO, and you can't even BEGIN to get them started in the upper without a hammer.

This time though, I put the two problem roll pins inbetween vice grips and squeezed them enough that they just barely fit in the roll pin starter punches.  As a result, I managed to get both of them about half-way in with moderate to significant pushing by hand before resorted to the padded vice grips for a squeeze fit the rest of the way.  I had to do some twisting to get the starter punch off the roll pin though.  I only needed to use the hammer and standard punch to seat them below flush.

The LPK cost me four LEO marked mags, so I'm happy.
11/13/2006 3:39:41 PM EDT
[#29]
OK...call me nutz but I spent a cool $100 on a Les Baer Custom lower parts kit...that's without the trigger /hammer assembly!

But, all the key metal parts are Baer Coated and match my LBC matched reveivers. A waste of money? No. Somewhat excessive...sure. Necessary, far from it.

Will my rifle shoot any better - nope. But it will look complete and if the parts are good enough for LBC guns that shoot sub 1/2 MOA out of the box...I will spend the extra few dollars and smile the whole damn time.

Pics of the complete project to follow.
11/13/2006 3:44:32 PM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:
OK...call me nutz but I spent a cool $100 on a Les Baer Custom lower parts kit...that's without the trigger /hammer assembly!

But, all the key metal parts are Baer Coated and match my LBC matched reveivers. A waste of money? No. Somewhat excessive...sure. Necessary, far from it.

Will my rifle shoot any better - nope. But it will look complete and if the parts are good enough for LBC guns that shoot sub 1/2 MOA out of the box...I will spend the extra few dollars and smile the whole damn time.

Pics of the complete project to follow.


Did you get a Baer-coated screw for your pistol grip?
11/13/2006 4:27:40 PM EDT
[#31]
I've built five using RRA lowers with RRA parts kits and they've all turned out perfect.
11/13/2006 5:40:44 PM EDT
[#32]
I've used White oak parts kits and really like them. Plus getting them thru ADCO you have the option of getting a kit with the trigger or not. Very handy if your going to replace the trigger anyway.
11/13/2006 5:56:19 PM EDT
[#33]
Can't go wrong with CMT/STAG.

B_W
11/13/2006 6:48:11 PM EDT
[#34]
I'm actually planning on going with armalite for my two still unfinished lowers.
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