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8/2/2006 2:14:53 AM EDT
My last range trip was interesting, all of my shots are landing basicly in the same spots on the paper.

I was using Federal .223 55 grain FMJ and Winchester 5.56 55 grain FMJ. My shots are all landing on the right side of the target.

I am aiming at the bullseye, I was seated while shooting but was not using any type of rest.

The only good thing I can say is anybody I am shooting at better not be standing to my right

I was thinking it had something to do with me squinting my left eye closed and being right handed but that does not sound right when I say it.

All of my shots stayed on the paper, I used 2 different targets, 1 on the left and 1 on the right of the target stand.

I still put everything to the right. I  hit the black a few times on the target but most shots stayed far right.

Oh, this is all with the iron sights, I am wondering if there is any adjustments I can make to the iron sights to get my shots more to the center of the target.

Can you guys help?
8/2/2006 2:57:21 AM EDT
[#1]
If I read this right


move the rear sight to the left
8/2/2006 6:30:02 AM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
If I read this right


move the rear sight to the left


+1

Seydou
8/2/2006 6:41:22 AM EDT
[#3]
Have you ever zeroed this weapon before?
If not, go here:

groups.msn.com/TheMarylandAR15ShootersSite/zeroingmethods.msnw
8/2/2006 7:46:26 AM EDT
[#4]
ETA:

Yup. Rear sight is off.
8/2/2006 10:13:59 AM EDT
[#5]
Everyone here is right...erm..(correct) I mean.  haha   Especially if you are shooting very consistently to the right.  you need to move your rear sight.  By the sound of things, you seem like you may be a new shooter, also.  I would make sure that you are right eye dominant as well.  Your best shooters will always shoot with both eyes open, and have their dominant eye looking through the optics or sights.  If you are shooting with one eye closed it won't seem like it matters what eye is dominant, but the minute you try to open both eyes and center in on your target for quick acquisition, it won't work.  So if you are sure that you are right eye dominant, you need to move your rear sight, but if you are unsure, ask us how to do a test, and we can help ya!  Lucky shooting partner!
8/3/2006 1:15:55 AM EDT
[#6]
I wouldnt call myself a new shooter, I have been shooting for about 5 years, so to some, you could say I am a rookie!

The rifle was said to be zeroed when I bought it (used) but I took the rear sights off when I put a scope on the flat top.

I didnt think taking the rear sight off would affect it being that it is fixed but it seems like it is off or really was never zeroed to begin with.

As to being right eye dominant, I have no clue. I always assumed you were supposed to close 1 eye to "aim" any weapon.

I close my left eye when I fire my pistols and my rifles. I recently read an article and was suprised to find out that there are shooters who can shoot without closing 1 eye.

I went to the range and tried to shoot with both eyes open but I barely got on the paper.

If you guys have any further info to help me, I would be most appreciative.
8/3/2006 1:30:52 AM EDT
[#7]
When you purchased the rifle it was most likely set to mechanical zero. Rear sight centered. You are going to be hitting on center from now on, once you adjust it to your personal settings.
8/3/2006 5:37:30 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
I wouldnt call myself a new shooter, I have been shooting for about 5 years, so to some, you could say I am a rookie!

The rifle was said to be zeroed when I bought it (used) but I took the rear sights off when I put a scope on the flat top.


I didnt think taking the rear sight off would affect it being that it is fixed but it seems like it is off or really was never zeroed to begin with.


If you have a detachable CH and removed it, then it is very well possible that you might have some minor adjustments to make if you decide to re-install it. And just because the previous owner said it was zeroed doesn’t mean he knew what he was doing, or zeroed the rifle correctly.


As to being right eye dominant, I have no clue. I always assumed you were supposed to close 1 eye to "aim" any weapon.

I close my left eye when I fire my pistols and my rifles. I recently read an article and was suprised to find out that there are shooters who can shoot without closing 1 eye.

I went to the range and tried to shoot with both eyes open but I barely got on the paper.

If you guys have any further info to help me, I would be most appreciative.



Yes, you should close your non-dominant eye and shoot looking through the sights with your dominant eye. I have shot pistols with both eyes open, “point shooting”, but with a rifle you should close one eye especially if your shooting to zero or engaging targets at any great distance and expect any kind of accuracy.


If you want some tips and techniques for shooting download:

FM 23-9 .
8/3/2006 5:45:38 AM EDT
[#9]
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Quoted:The rifle was said to be zeroed when I bought it (used) but I took the rear sights off when I put a scope on the flat top.

---This is part of your problem. A rifle is ONLY sighted in for the person who did so. You have a completely different set of eyes; hold, etc. YOU need to sight it in.---

I didnt think taking the rear sight off would affect it being that it is fixed but it seems like it is off or really was never zeroed to begin with.

---All sights must be re-sighted-in if removed.

I went to the range and tried to shoot with both eyes open but I barely got on the paper.If you guys have any further info to help me, I would be most appreciative.


--- This is a learned process. It also helps if you have someone who uses this technique to train you.

I use this in Competition Benchrest shooting. You need to learn this quickly to read the wind flags if you expect to sucessfully compete.

I will be glad to help you any way I can via this venue. Send me a e-mail. I may be able to put you in touch with someone in your area who can help.

Roy
8/3/2006 7:01:36 AM EDT
[#10]
I agree with everybody else. 1) The rifle needs to be re-zeroed by the user. Each person will shoulder the weapon different and use different sight alignment. 2) You need to find which eye is dominant and shoulder the rifle on that side.

To find dominant eye: stretch your arm out fully and extend your index finger. Use your index finger like a front sight post and sight in on a "target" with both eyes open. Close your left eye while sighting in. If you are still on target then you are right eye dominant. If it moves you are left eye dominant.
8/4/2006 12:57:17 AM EDT
[#11]
Thanks everyone for the info, I will try and make adjustments to the sights and get back with the results.
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