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Posted: 3/18/2006 11:14:51 PM EDT
Ok guys-after many months of saving I am ready to buy another rifle and further my bad case of BRD. However, I am really struggling to decide between an RRA midlength or an RRA M4gery. So jump in and tell me which you would choose and why. Thanks
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 11:55:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mco119:
Ok guys-after many months of saving I am ready to buy another rifle and further my bad case of BRD. However, I am really struggling to decide between an RRA midlength or an RRA M4gery. So jump in and tell me which you would choose and why. Thanks



Midlength. It's designed around 16" barrels, optimizing the gas system and foearm "real estate." I don't like the look of a long barrel poking way out there. Take advantage of the longer sight radius, being able to attach bayonets, less harsh gas system, etc...

Plus with an A1 stock, it looks like a "mini-A2."
Link Posted: 3/19/2006 12:22:29 AM EDT
Mid length A4. I have one and a RRA M4gery Entry tactical. It just feels and looks better than a 16" M-4 barrel. I think the mid gas system makes it more "mild mannered" than the car length. I had an A2 stock( too short) on it but sold that and am waiting on a 6 pos with SOG butt pad( it's LOP is longer and fits me better)
Link Posted: 3/19/2006 12:24:45 AM EDT
I should clarify that if I get an m4gery, I will probably have a 14.5" barrel with perm. FH installed. I agree that a 16" barrel sticking out of those fat m4 handguards looks, well, weird.
Link Posted: 3/19/2006 12:31:51 AM EDT

Originally Posted By mco119:
I should clarify that if I get an m4gery, I will probably have a 14.5" barrel with perm. FH installed. I agree that a 16" barrel sticking out of those fat m4 handguards looks, well, weird.



With the 14.5 you're stuck with the phantom. With a midlength if you decide on a suppressor later or some new type FH comes available you can always swap it.
Link Posted: 3/19/2006 12:45:06 AM EDT
I got a 14.5 mid length from cmmg. Its by far my favorite gun.
Link Posted: 3/19/2006 1:46:59 AM EDT
I like the look of the Midlength.
Link Posted: 3/19/2006 5:13:26 AM EDT
Middy
Link Posted: 3/19/2006 1:27:55 PM EDT
My middy Elite CAR A4 w/chrome-line barrel is just about perfect.
Link Posted: 3/19/2006 1:30:49 PM EDT
Middy w/ govt bbl (C-L of course)
Link Posted: 3/19/2006 1:30:52 PM EDT
Midlength. You get the 16" barrel goodness with a better gas system and more handguard.
Link Posted: 3/19/2006 1:36:12 PM EDT
Middy first then M4
Link Posted: 3/19/2006 1:37:52 PM EDT
just get both.
Link Posted: 3/19/2006 2:01:52 PM EDT
Had an M4gery. I now have a middy.

get the middy. you wont regret it.
Link Posted: 3/19/2006 2:08:59 PM EDT
BOTH in that order.
Link Posted: 3/19/2006 2:20:25 PM EDT
How do Middys with 14.5" barrels work? Does the shorter barrel screw up the gas system, or do they operate about as well as the standard 16" versions?
Link Posted: 3/19/2006 2:59:52 PM EDT

Originally Posted By jwise:

Midlength. It's designed around 16" barrels, optimizing the gas system and foearm "real estate." I don't like the look of a long barrel poking way out there. Take advantage of the longer sight radius, being able to attach bayonets, less harsh gas system, etc...

Plus with an A1 stock, it looks like a "mini-A2."



+1
Link Posted: 3/19/2006 8:34:48 PM EDT
Hmmn, since I have an RRA middy, I would have to say um........

Middy. You won't be sorry
Link Posted: 3/19/2006 8:50:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/19/2006 9:47:04 PM EDT by mco119]
Originally Posted By mco119:
How do Middys with 14.5" barrels work? Does the shorter barrel screw up the gas system, or do they operate about as well as the standard 16" versions?

can anyone answer this for me?
Link Posted: 3/19/2006 9:27:50 PM EDT
I'll present the minority report... M4. Though I can see the allure of a midlength system, if you don't have an M4 get one! I find it to be more versitle and handles better. Plus, it is way more tacticool
Link Posted: 3/19/2006 9:31:00 PM EDT
I have thought about it but than I thought it would look funny so I never did it. I agree though buy both and a MRP.
Link Posted: 3/19/2006 9:40:30 PM EDT
Get both...I did!

I like the mid better!

I did the 14.5 with permapinned Phantom.
Link Posted: 3/19/2006 9:45:19 PM EDT
middy.
Link Posted: 3/19/2006 9:49:14 PM EDT
wow, the m4 is really losing this battle. Somehow I really missed how popular middys have become.
Link Posted: 3/20/2006 4:52:26 AM EDT
I just ordered a Sabre Defence middie upper from Talon Arms. Can't wait to get it. BTW, thier model has gov't contour under the guards. Best of both worlds, middie gas system w/ lighter barrel than the RRA & standard chrome lined barrel. Also has M4 ramps & 1/7 twist barrel. Perfect.
Link Posted: 3/20/2006 6:03:17 AM EDT
Obviously get both.

Get the middy first.

The M4 needs to be 14.5 other wise what's the point?

My middy and M4.
Link Posted: 3/20/2006 8:16:12 AM EDT
middy
Link Posted: 3/20/2006 8:16:32 AM EDT
+1 for middy. It's just more practical and pleasant to shoot, and I don't think I'll ever buy another AR with the carbine gas system unless I'm doing an SBR or some sort of retro-clone.
Link Posted: 3/20/2006 8:24:21 AM EDT
M4gery
Link Posted: 3/20/2006 8:26:53 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/20/2006 1:12:21 PM EDT

Originally Posted By comp1911:
Obviously get both.

Get the middy first.

The M4 needs to be 14.5 other wise what's the point?

My middy and M4.
img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/comp1911/Guns/Dsc00861.jpg



that m4 has a 14.5" inch barrel, right? Perm. Phantom?
Link Posted: 3/21/2006 4:36:29 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/21/2006 4:38:00 AM EDT by comp1911]

Originally Posted By mco119:

Originally Posted By comp1911:
Obviously get both.

Get the middy first.

The M4 needs to be 14.5 other wise what's the point?

My middy and M4.
img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/comp1911/Guns/Dsc00861.jpg



that m4 has a 14.5" inch barrel, right? Perm. Phantom?



Yup, Colt M4A1 SOCOM barrel from Skich on the EE with a perm attached Phantom 5C2.

The middy is a Denny's Operator with 13.2" LaRue tube. Also has a Phantom 5C2 on the front.
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 9:36:43 AM EDT

Originally Posted By mco119:
How do Middys with 14.5" barrels work? Does the shorter barrel screw up the gas system, or do they operate about as well as the standard 16" versions?



ok guys, who can answer this one for me?
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 10:24:06 AM EDT

Originally Posted By mco119:

Originally Posted By mco119:
How do Middys with 14.5" barrels work? Does the shorter barrel screw up the gas system, or do they operate about as well as the standard 16" versions?



ok guys, who can answer this one for me?



The Noveske 14.5 midlength barrels have gotten rave reviews.
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 10:32:04 AM EDT

Originally Posted By west996:

Originally Posted By mco119:

Originally Posted By mco119:
How do Middys with 14.5" barrels work? Does the shorter barrel screw up the gas system, or do they operate about as well as the standard 16" versions?



ok guys, who can answer this one for me?



The Noveske 14.5 midlength barrels have gotten rave reviews.



well, my plan is to get an RRA Elite CAR. If I had that barrel cut to 14.5", I assume it will work ok.
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 5:55:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mco119:

Originally Posted By west996:

Originally Posted By mco119:

Originally Posted By mco119:
How do Middys with 14.5" barrels work? Does the shorter barrel screw up the gas system, or do they operate about as well as the standard 16" versions?



ok guys, who can answer this one for me?



The Noveske 14.5 midlength barrels have gotten rave reviews.



well, my plan is to get an RRA Elite CAR. If I had that barrel cut to 14.5", I assume it will work ok.



I just got a 14.5 middie upper from CMMG, can't wait to shoot it.
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 6:49:29 PM EDT
If you go to adcofirearms.com, steve has a section under the RRA stuff that says, build an M4 upper. I had him put together an M4gery with a 14.7 with permanent A2 flashider for my dad, and my dad just loves it!!!!!!!!!!! It's as close to an M4 that you're going to get and it's pretty accurate too. It's his favorite gun right now.
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 6:54:41 PM EDT
Originally Posted By mco119:
How do Middys with 14.5" barrels work? Does the shorter barrel screw up the gas system, or do they operate about as well as the standard 16" versions?

I would like to know this also.
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 7:04:35 PM EDT
Same lower, both uppers for now.
You know that you'll end up with both anyway.
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 7:20:55 PM EDT
I am a big fan of the M4. However, I am a bigger fan of the C.R.O.S.S. M4 from POF. It kicks ass. Only HK and Colt offer similar to my knowledge. Good luck with those two copy cats.
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 7:34:09 PM EDT
I have an M4. Wish I had a Middy.

Get the Middy then get an SBR
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 11:26:41 PM EDT

Originally Posted By west996:

Originally Posted By mco119:

Originally Posted By mco119:
How do Middys with 14.5" barrels work? Does the shorter barrel screw up the gas system, or do they operate about as well as the standard 16" versions?



ok guys, who can answer this one for me?



The Noveske 14.5 midlength barrels have gotten rave reviews.



So I'm taking this to mean that a 14.5" will not take away from the benefits of a middy? I thought I heard somewhere that since midlengths are designed around 16" barrels, a shorter one messes with the gas system.
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