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Posted: 3/6/2006 12:17:52 PM EDT
I see them on SBR's and retro rifles. Getting a bug for somthhing simple. Am I crazy?
Link Posted: 3/6/2006 12:23:03 PM EDT

Originally Posted By CitizenSoldier:
I see them on SBR's and retro rifles. Getting a bug for somthhing simple. Am I crazy?



totally nuts, but you may proceed!
Link Posted: 3/6/2006 12:50:02 PM EDT
Mine has never left
Link Posted: 3/6/2006 1:27:10 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/6/2006 1:29:01 PM EDT
I'm not sure when or where I got it from, but I have decided to go with an A1 upper for my next build. I just like the simplicity of them.

Link Posted: 3/6/2006 1:32:01 PM EDT
What's the difference?
Link Posted: 3/6/2006 1:34:11 PM EDT
I've been wondering the same thing.

I picked an A1 for my upper for three reasons:

1) I really like iron sights, and don't want to spend $500 on optics
2) I like the whole historical retro look
3) This board, and local ranges, are packed with tricked-out M4geries, and I don't have the cash to top that.

So I ended up with an A1 16" Dissipator, and it's wicked cool.

Not sure if age is any factor; I'm 25.

-MV
Link Posted: 3/6/2006 1:37:51 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Stickman:
but a lot of other people have figured out that its hard to mess up an A1 rear sight once you are dialed in.


The set and forget sites are what I've heard touted for as long as I've been here.
I don't think anything new is going on. But I see a lot of dealers have them. Maybe they've been dumped on the market from some where?
Link Posted: 3/6/2006 2:06:59 PM EDT
Maybe older but every bit as fun,the sp1 gets a lot of looks at the range too!




Link Posted: 3/6/2006 2:12:15 PM EDT
A1 Rear sight kicks ass. Really people, when TSHTF are you going to suddenly find youself in a firefight and then are you going to crouch behind a tree and dial up you rear sight to 800 yards. I don't think so. KISS!
Link Posted: 3/6/2006 2:18:58 PM EDT
Heh I'll trade my A1 upper for a flat top. My eyes are at the point where I need a scope for the shooting I do.

Just PM me
Link Posted: 3/6/2006 2:37:48 PM EDT
With the exception of NRA HiPower shooters, who actually adjusts their A2 sights? Once I get it sighted in, it stays sighted in. So why not get A1 sights? I have seen the results of an A2 sight nob rubbing against a shooters chest for five straight days--just five days!--and he had serious zero issues that were exposed at the 300m line.
Link Posted: 3/6/2006 3:17:57 PM EDT
I love my A1. Accurate as heck, light, awesome-looking, and I always get alot of "Is that one of those M16s from Vietnam?" at the range.
Link Posted: 3/6/2006 3:26:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Stryfe:

The set and forget sites are what I've heard touted for as long as I've been here.
I don't think anything new is going on. But I see a lot of dealers have them. Maybe they've been dumped on the market from some where?



It's not just the used M16A1 uppers that the surplus folks are carrying!

Quite a few manufacturers have new-production A1 uppers: CMMG, Bushmaster, DPMS, etc.

(takes out crystal ball) In the near future, almost all ARs will be either flattop or A1, except for the very small market catering to the Gulf War/Somalia War Retro crowd.

-MV
Link Posted: 3/6/2006 3:44:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/6/2006 3:45:47 PM EDT by John44]

Originally Posted By MatthewVanitas:
Originally Posted By Stryfe:

except for the very small market catering to the Gulf War/Somalia War Retro crowd. -MV

That's ME! Love thsoe M4 with A2 sights and good old A2 rifles!hts

Go Gulf War/Somalia War Retro crowd!!! headbang.gif
Link Posted: 3/6/2006 4:51:47 PM EDT
I packed an M16A1 most of my career thus far. We only got our A2's a few years ago and that is what I am packing here in Iraq, but I kinda want my A1 back. I have an Eotech on a PRI mount and it would be just fine on an A1.
Link Posted: 3/6/2006 4:53:51 PM EDT

Originally Posted By GeorgiaBII:
Heh I'll trade my A1 upper for a flat top. My eyes are at the point where I need a scope for the shooting I do.

Just PM me



I sold my ARs during a nasty divorce and plan on rebuilding when I get back from Iraq.
Link Posted: 3/6/2006 6:17:18 PM EDT
I'd like to have an A1 or XM177 clone. I had an SP1 carbine and let her go.

TS
Link Posted: 3/6/2006 6:32:31 PM EDT
I have an SP1 CAR and an AF 604 upper with a chrome slick side bolt carrier on a RRA lower. I also have a 6.8 flattop upper. I am thinking of a slabside or A1 20" pencil bbl 6.8 ! I think it would be pretty damn neat ! Triangle handguards and all ! I have a 20" A1 pencil bbl 5.56 I could cannibalize,,, nah, just build a whole 'nother upper

rj
Link Posted: 3/6/2006 7:06:37 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MatthewVanitas:
Quite a few manufacturers have new-production A1 uppers: CMMG, Bushmaster, DPMS, etc.


-MV


Now only if they would make them correctly.
Link Posted: 3/6/2006 7:26:28 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Stryfe:

Originally Posted By MatthewVanitas:
Quite a few manufacturers have new-production A1 uppers: CMMG, Bushmaster, DPMS, etc.


-MV


Now only if they would make them correctly.



Meaning "slickside" or meaning "with the forward assist but without the deflector"?

Link Posted: 3/6/2006 8:10:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MatthewVanitas:
I picked an A1 for my upper for three reasons:

1) I really like iron sights, and don't want to spend $500 on optics
2) I like the whole historical retro look
3) This board, and local ranges, are packed with tricked-out M4geries, and I don't have the cash to top that.



+1

I'm working on an M16A1 clone. Now if only someone would build A1 style lowers!
Link Posted: 3/6/2006 8:18:49 PM EDT
Some of us are hopeless romantics
Such as I....

Link Posted: 3/7/2006 5:56:17 AM EDT
I have become a real big C7 fan. In fact I converted my old Colt Rifle and Carbine to C7 status......uber sweeeeet!!!!

Here's the rifle:



Shoots GRRRREAT!!!!
Link Posted: 3/7/2006 7:34:49 AM EDT
C7 is the best of both worlds to this left handed shooter. I like the simplicity of A1 and the brass deflector.
Link Posted: 3/7/2006 8:05:21 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/7/2006 10:03:56 AM EDT
Yeah, I've got the obligatory A1 retro gun in my collection. Light, accurate, and simple. It's also nostalgic: it's what I carried for my 4 years in the Army and 3 in the Guard. Never had an A2 or M4 issued to me (only purchased by me!).

And 55gr out of a 20" barrel is nothing to sneeze at if you're on the receiving end!
Link Posted: 3/7/2006 10:43:58 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Stryfe:

Originally Posted By MatthewVanitas:
Quite a few manufacturers have new-production A1 uppers: CMMG, Bushmaster, DPMS, etc.


-MV


Now only if they would make them correctly.



My KINGDOM for a TRUE mil spec C7 upper.
Link Posted: 3/7/2006 1:25:38 PM EDT
I changed my A2s to C7s many years ago.
Link Posted: 3/7/2006 3:13:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MatthewVanitas:

Originally Posted By Stryfe:

Originally Posted By MatthewVanitas:
Quite a few manufacturers have new-production A1 uppers: CMMG, Bushmaster, DPMS, etc.


Now only if they would make them correctly.


Meaning "slickside" or meaning "with the forward assist but without the deflector"?


Forward assist, no deflector.
There are a couple folks who sell slicksides.
Link Posted: 3/7/2006 3:13:52 PM EDT

Originally Posted By desertmoon:

Originally Posted By Stryfe:

Originally Posted By MatthewVanitas:
Quite a few manufacturers have new-production A1 uppers: CMMG, Bushmaster, DPMS, etc.


-MV


Now only if they would make them correctly.



My KINGDOM for a TRUE mil spec C7 upper.


Doesn't the C7 have the brass deflector?
Link Posted: 3/7/2006 4:06:51 PM EDT
A slick side upper for me, please. I have two, and love them. Super light, with pencil barrels. I just wish I could find an A1 (pencil) profile barrel with a 1:7 twist.
Link Posted: 3/7/2006 4:34:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/7/2006 6:05:55 PM EDT by dkhntr04]
Hbar + lathe + machinist =


A slick side upper for me, please. I have two, and love them. Super light, with pencil barrels. I just wish I could find an A1 (pencil) profile barrel with a 1:7 twist.


Slick sides for me too!!
Link Posted: 3/7/2006 4:36:05 PM EDT
I caught the retro bug too......what else do you do with a Bushy A1 upper?.....will hopefully have all the parts in the next few weeks, will definatly post some pics.
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