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Posted: 1/25/2006 7:31:46 PM EDT
I just acquired an SPR and was wondering if my ACOG compact 2X is sufficient.... or do I need higher magnification...
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 7:49:33 PM EDT
you need both
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 8:28:46 PM EDT
look into the leupold mark 4 MR/T, LR/T. I have the LR/T 3.5x10 x40 with the TMR reticle.
If you shoot the 77gr ammo the spr is meant to shoot then the TMR has the proper bullet drop for it.
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 8:30:37 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 8:37:20 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 8:42:45 PM EDT

Originally Posted By petagunner:
How far do you intend to shoot?

My max target range is usually what drives the power range of my optic, but different strokes for different folks



Yep... that about sums it up. Been my experience that most people tend to over scope guns, this is one case where more is not always better... also depends on what you intend to shoot at these yet unknown ranges.

Link Posted: 1/25/2006 8:46:27 PM EDT
I love the CQ/T for 1X use. For anything else, I pretty much have to reset where it is on the rail to be comfy. (eye relief) And it is obviously a lot of clunk for a 1X optic. Just my two cents.
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 8:54:20 PM EDT
I shoot out to about 300 yrds, just was wondering if I can use my existing 2X ACOG or save up enough to get a new scope.... with the holidays and such just passed... $$$ is tight
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 9:08:24 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 9:36:36 PM EDT
I would think that the 2x scope would be a touch light for shooting an SPR to its potential. Although you could do it fairly well, I am sure.
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 9:48:11 PM EDT
i have a shcmidt and bender short dot..thats just what works for me..and your decision should be made on what works for you..so if you can hit a 600yrd steel plate accuratly with a bsa red dot then get one of those...really go to the local shop pick up a few scopes take a look through them...read some reviews then make a choice based on what works for you the best
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 10:29:54 PM EDT
I've been thinking about a fixed 4X, myself.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 6:04:19 AM EDT
I got a 4X ACOG on my AR10 currently...problem is my AR10 ACOG is calibrated for 308..
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 6:17:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/26/2006 6:17:52 AM EDT by bigbore]
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 7:31:17 AM EDT
ACOG TA01. Planning on replacing it soon with a Tasco SS 10x.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 8:31:04 AM EDT
I like 4X fixed.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 9:20:28 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 9:47:54 AM EDT
Very interesting development here: www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=18&t=253825.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 10:29:32 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/26/2006 10:31:38 AM EDT by DevL]
Honestly, after shooting a Crane SPR I felt that 10X was too little. If all you want is minute of torso then I am sure 9 or 10X on the high end is fine but if you want first round hits on smaller objects you need more power. When I build my .308 AR10 it will sport a max power in the 12-18X range. Then again my eyes must not be as good as the other shooters here.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 10:35:50 AM EDT

Originally Posted By bigbore:

Originally Posted By Bongos:
I got a 4X ACOG on my AR10 currently...problem is my AR10 ACOG is calibrated for 308..



Dont worry about that, you'll probablly never notice the difference in the BDC. I've had no problem hitting what I want at 600yds with a 4X optic.



The trajectory of the NATO 75-77gr rounds is very similar to the 7.62 rounds the ACOG was calibrated for. Somewhere around here is a thread where Bartholomew_Roberts figured out how to zero different ACOGs to have the most accurate BDC with different ammo and barrel length....
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 7:27:19 AM EDT
Thanks for the advice guys, I ended up putting my ACOG TA01B 4X on my SPR and sold my compact ACOG 2X, I just bought a 10X IOR 56mm and it fit my AR10 carbine perfectly... Now all I need is a scope for my AR10T...
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 8:27:41 AM EDT
I got a ACOG TA01NSN to use when I build mine. I think 4X is enough out to 300 yards. My other thought is to get a Tasco SS 10X later to try.

Link Posted: 2/6/2006 10:19:33 AM EDT
Huge difference after 10X. My personal gun has a SS 10x 42 on it but it's lacking a little. If I replaced it today, it'd be with the 4.5 - 14 X 50, Leupold illuminated TMR. Even if you don't shoot that far, you may want to see something that close at some point. It's nice if you're having to use just your primary glass to make downrange windcall.

The 4X Acog makes head shots for a 16" gun easy at 400 meters.
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 10:43:03 AM EDT

Originally Posted By jvicent:
The 4X Acog makes head shots for a 16" gun easy at 400 meters.



Maybe for you... I'm still working on 300 yard head shots
Maybe one day with enough practice
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 12:20:17 PM EDT
This might be another post, but I might get a 4.5-14x50 IOR with the MP8 illuminated recticle for my AR10T... I thought of going for Luepold but after owning the illuminated 3.5-10x40 MK4, I decided i no longer want leupold illuminate, glass is nice but the batteries just dies too quick, Night force is very nice and I might get again a NXS 5.5-22x50 with NP-R2 ( you can get two IORs for that price) but have'nt decided.
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