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Posted: 12/17/2005 11:11:15 AM EDT
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what ranges have you fired your AR's at? and what ammo? using M193 or M855, what would you consider to be YOUR maximum effective range? under general field conditions (- last HP match i went to, one shooter said "do we shoot even if its raining - what if it gets too windy or starts to snow? the RO said "yes."  ) oh yeah - i have fired only on reduced courses for HP shooting - 200 yds max. i have hit steel plates human torso sized at 350 everytime informally from resting over a tailgate for a shot - little or no wind, M855 ammo. only longer range shooting with my AR done. |
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The accurized M16/AR15 rifle DOMINATES HighPower events. You shoot at 200, 300 and 600 yards in the STANDARD course. The Black Rilfe is fired at 1000 yards in the long range service rifle events. It wins too... at 200 yards most any match bullet will work, Sierra is quite popular but Nosler and Hornady are excellent as well. Lots of shooters have gone to using the 77 grain Sierra for all yard lines (I think the Marines do...one load XTC) but most will use the Sierra 80 for 600 and the 1000. Sierra recently released a 90 grain bullet and, just like the 77s, and 80s, you need a fast twist barrel to properly stabilize that round. 77s and 80s need 1X8 and the 90 require 1X6.5 (I think) If your only shooting reduced courses, the 52 grain matchking shoots really good. Forget ball ammo if your looking for good groups and score. And to answer your question, I've shoot XTC 200-600 yards with my Match AR's. |
| I just got back from range today very nice day to shoot . I aligned my scope today on my BM 20" and was very happy with it. At 100 yd was shooting right on bulls eye with 1" groups thats with federal 55gr cheaper ammo that BM shoots great! Now my buddie has one just like mine and he was shooting a hand load 55gr and I GOT TO GET SOME OF THAT from him i watched him as she shot 4 groups and 3 of the 4 after 3 shots you could cover all 3 with a dime and im not kidding!not sure what his load was but i will be checking on it. then at 200 yds i shot (same ammo) about 11/2 groups sand bag shooting of course on all of it today. his was about a inch group. no wind perfect conditions. any way had a great time and thats what its all about . |
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i usually shoot the federal 55 gr in the HP matches - average scores. i was just thinking "minute of bad guy" i guess. kbhag: i like the 68 gr hornady and 69 gr sierra as well - both seem to shoot well in my bushy. it stabilizes the 75 gr hornady's as well. the 68's i shot across the course once and was pleasantly surprised. next season, thats what i'm going to use - good handloads and either 68's or 69's. most M855 ammo at 200 yds seems to "pattern" instead of group. i managed to keep it all on the steel plate. just wondering if anyone else shoots milsurp or clone ammo at anything past 200yds and what they are accomplishing. i want to do more "plinking" but want to be able to hit something a little further out as well. |
50-1000yds, 16" Carbine and CMP Service Rifle Ammo, everything from 55gr junk to 80gr Bergers XTC matches I use 55gr ball whatever at 200yds. The 10 ring is 2MOA, if I dont clean it at 200yds its not because I didnt use match ammo. (Offhand - I'm happy to keep all in the black) 300-600yds - 77gr Sierras 600yds - if the weather is nice I'll shoot the 77s, otherwise I'll shoot 80gr Bergers. The 80s out of my 20" 1:8 are one on top of the other at 600yds. The 80s out of my 20" 1:7 at 800yds are one on top of the other. The 80s out of my 20" 1:7 at 1000yds right on the very EDGE. A 24.5grain load does fine, and snaps over the target, 24.3grains are subsonic and seem to impact quite a bit lower - I discovered this when I ran low on ammo and had to shoot the two different loads. It was an education. M855 - M855 from either of my service rifles will NOT hold a 2MOA 10 ring at 200yds. |
How's that stuff at 600 yards? |
100 to 600 yards, RRA NM Service Rifle I keep loading simple and shoot 75 gr Hornady HPBTS from 100 to 300 yds, and 75 gr Hornady Amax from 500 to 600 yards. I have not tried beyond 600 yards. When I do, I will probably use a Model 70 in 260 Remington pushing 139 gr Lapua match bullets. |
Why do you need shooting tables? |
| Shooting tables are nice for sandbag shooting such as zeroing rifle scopes and such. We shoot more than our ARs and there are some young shooters we are working with that (some cant at least) cant hold a full size long gun up for any lenght of time yet. We start teaching them young when they can be confortable they learn alot of saftey and basics better then later the off hand shooting is worked on. Tables arnt a must but for what we shoot they do help. |
| 300 yards on 10" steel plates and homemade man man-sized silhouettes while on the move with a 20" A2 Bushmaster and a Colt 6920 w/Aimpoint M2 using Wolf 62FMJ ammo. At 300 yards the 4 MOA dot covers the 10" steel plates. The plates are kind of tricky, but the silhouettes are not to bad to get center of mass hits on with either weapon. My range runs Practical rifle/pistol shoots about once per month and we usually advance from the 300 yard line towards the targets with various stations in between. I like running the course with my carbine than transitioning to my Glock for the close-in targets. |
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