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12/2/2005 6:45:18 AM EDT
What are the performance (accuracy, noise, weight) advantages of the DPMS Lo-Pro 16 over other 16" AR variants? What type and brand of optics would you use for range work out to 200 yards (would a red dot or glass optics be preferable?) I'm left-handed but don't want a left-handed upper (does a brass deflector work and is it available. Thanks.


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12/2/2005 6:52:40 AM EDT
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What are the performance (accuracy, noise, weight) advantages of the DPMS Lo-Pro 16 over other 16" AR variants? What type and brand of optics would you use for range work out to 200 yards (would a red dot or glass optics be preferable?) I'm left-handed but don't want a left-handed upper (does a brass deflector work and is it available. Thanks.


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I have a lopro 16, and I can say this for it I LOVE IT!  As far as performance goes, the accuracy is great, you can expect to shoot 1/2" groups @ 100 yards.  Noise?  I have found it to be rather quiet compared to my 20" Panther.  On the weight, it is a heavy barrel no doubt and it can be rather heavy to carry around.  

With that said I don't mind the weight because of the size and manueverability is gives me, If it had a another 4" to 8" of barrel it would be that much heavier and a lot harder to move quietly through the woods.  (I use mine to hunt hogs, coyotes and deer)  I have an adjustable 3-9 X 40 mounted on it and it shoots great out to distances of 300 yards, the max I have tested it at.

Anyway I would certainly recommend it, it's a deadly shooter and a pleasure to have!
12/2/2005 7:05:18 PM EDT
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DPMS rifles are great and they support the shooting sports hard!  If the Lo-Pro is running their new upper receiver, it shouldn't have a forward assist, brass deflector and dustcover.  Mostly 'cause there's no need for it in most cases.  1/2" is not unexpected with DPMS rifles, just 'cause they do it right and with good ammo these results should be the standard.

For 200 yards, you're still in close.  Depending on what the rifle is built for, you have tons of options.  If it's for hunting, look at any of the adjustables.  My old 3-Gun scope doubled as my varmint scope since I could bracket shots beyond 300 yards pretty easy.  It was a Sightron 2.5-7x 32mm SG scope.  It has a double diamond reticle that I zeroed for a 12" plate at 100 yards (outside diamond) and it happened to work out for a 12" plate at 200 yards (inner diamond).  After that, you can use the cross-hards and points in the diamond to bracket shots over and under your sighted/known distances.

For plinkin' or "tactical" shooting or even 3-Gun, a fixed or no-power scope will work great.  I run a 3.5x Trijicon TA-11 on my rifle now for competition.  For work, my M-4 has a TA-01NSN (4x).  Again at 200 yards, you could easily run iron sights with no problems.

Either way, you'll have a great rifle with the DPMS.

Take care,

SPC Richard A. White, Senior Medic
249th MP Detachment (EACF)
Camp Humphreys, ROK
12/8/2005 4:08:34 PM EDT
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What kind of control did you find you have with this rifle?  The .223 is not a punishing round to shoot, does the weight of the bull barrell offset the need for a flash suppressor?  I have put off a carbine length Black Beauty for too long, and I think this is the one.  I'm glad it doesn't look like an M4gery.  I shoot an AR10-A4 from Armalite and love it, but the 20" Stainless gets heavy when shooting off shoulder.  What is the highest round count you have run through in one session?  The "word" on this rifle says that it won't hold up for extended shooting or SHTF/TEOTWAWKI.  I think that is BULL*****.  
12/9/2005 10:35:06 PM EDT
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DPMS rifles are as well (if not better) built than anyone elses.  At a class with Bennie Cooley, before joining the Army, I used my $2k custom AR built by JP/Mike Voigt/Me.  It's super hot-rodded and runs without trying (we put 2k rounds through it in a day).  About a week later, I was doing some iron sight practice with a 16" DPMS that I had owned for about 3 months, but never shot (won it off a prize table).  In the full day (about 6 hours) of shooting, I put 3k rounds through it doing everything with that rifle.  CQ work.  Shots to 200-300 yards on 12" plates.  Barricade firing positions.  Rifle to pistol transitions.  Basically, beat the hell out of the rifle in one day (and then gave it to my brother as a present...'cause he really wanted it...and I'm a great big brother).  

After that, I was sold.  I love my rifles.  All of them.  I wouldn't hesitate buying a DPMS rifle.  Randy Luth (owner) is a great guy and like I said earlier supports the shooting sports HARD!!!  A great company to work with too.  You won't go wrong and you can customize it any way you want...from the factory!  Order a catalog and go from there.

SPC Richard A. White, Senior Medic
249th MP Detachment (EACF)
Camp Humphreys, ROK
12/10/2005 6:50:17 AM EDT
[#5]
SOLD!
You ought to be a rep as well.  I think the Lo Pro is going to be a great addition.  Can't wait to get my hands on it and send some down range.  Thanks for the info, very helpful.  I'm going to quote this thread when someone says DPMS isn't quality.
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