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Posted: 10/25/2005 11:24:26 PM EDT
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I've done alot of reading on here for the past month, and can honestly say comming into this i had no idea about anything regarding AR's. But now i feel my knowledge has increased so i can hold "barely graduated noob" type conversations. The search feature on this forum has become my bestfriend, and has helped be sort through all the RRA posts. Many have recommened building, but seeing as since this is my first AR and i dont really have access to tools, being in college. I plan to use this AR as a guide to look back on when building a second rifle. So the choice of AR that im interested in getting is: RRA Tactical CAR A4 with the chromed lined 1:9 barrel I plan to add an EOTech in the future, and so im not sure whether or not to keep the detachable tactical carry handle or to add the RRA Dominator EOTech mount Also as far as extras are concerned i was wondering if its worth it to add the Badger Tactical Latch or stick with the standard charging handle latch. And i see they have different safety selectors, star or Ambi. And my last question, for front sight/gas block. Knowing im going to mount an EOTech which option would be the best....A2 Front sight, Weaver Type Gas Block, or Gas Block & detachable front sight? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated! If you have this same set up, please let me know what you think! |
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sounds like a great base rifle i would just get the flatop(A3) upper--skip getting the carry handle or the dominator --both of which are just about useless or too damn expensive get a set of BUISs from the EE or a dealer on the industry forum for ~$70 or less and save your cash for that EOtech (great choice btw) the regular charging latch works, not as "tactical", but it works, so save that later for an upgrade and put that funding into the EOtech unless you are left handed, i would not even consider getting a ambi selector i would get the standard A2 front sight--its usually the cheaper option and you have your front sight to go w/ your BUIS rear sight i use a midlength RRA upper w/ standard A2 front sights and my EOtech works fine if cash is tight (like it is for me), dont go around and spending the $$$s on little upgrades like the tac latch, "uber tactical"/(usless) handles that a cheaper-BUIS-can-do, or detachable front sights save up get that optic, or just spend the $$$s on USGI mags, ammo or training just my opinion.... |
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Hey Lex, AphaGhost has some great ideas for you. I would throw in a couple of options. If you are going to be some time before you get the EoTech then get the standard detachable handle and the fixed front gas block sight. You will have an A2 front and rear sight configuration and can't go wrong. If you are going to get the EoTech right away then skip the handle and do what AG said: Get the EoTech and a Rear Back Up Iron Sight (BUIS). Think about what you want on the front gas block. The fixed sight is fine, but I have eyes that have a hard time with the fixed sight in the sight plane so went with a YHM flip up front sight. If you are starting out with a fresh sheet then look at the Troy rather than the YHM, the securing system is maybe a little better with the Troy, although the YHM is great. The Dominator puts the EoTech sight plane up higher, I honestly don't know of any benefit. Maybe someone else can comment. I want everything to "co witness" and to be in the same sight plane and the Dominator puts the EoTech above the iron sights. Might fix the sight plane issue that I have but adds more stuff, I think. You can't go wrong. You might find things you prefer, but you can't go wrong. PS Train your iron sights first!!! Then any optics. Regards, Rick |
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The Dominator was designed to specifically raise the EOTech OUT of exact co-witness at the request of a federal agency. Their experience was the very busy sight picture, especially when engaging a moving target, that was a circumstance of exact co-witness. By elevating the circle/dot of the EOTech they could more readily engage targets using either the red dot or the irons than they could with them in co-witness. The agency that originally requested the Dominator has been very pleased with those which they have taken (and continue to take) delivery of. For several months they received our entire Dominator production which resulted in back orders for the civilian sector for a short time. Just my $.02. Steve/RRA |
i have to agree w/ the above..... its up to you lex, but i still think that you could save a few bucks and make co-witness work well..... btw: i use a pair of fold down rear BUISs (matech?) that i got off the EE for $50 pic posted by'zwvirtual' in this topic www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=118&t=255111 w/ fold down BUISs, i have a clear view on the rear (front sights still there..... ) and just filp up the rear when neededand i get to keep a as low a cheek weld as possible RRA's raised mounts are not wrong/bad, they are just not worth the extra $$$s imo ($175 extra on RRA's site), expecially if you are tight w/ cash as it is..... but RRA does make kick a** ARs for the $$$! |
Thanks, Steve, for the informed comments. The Dominator makes sense if the point is to keep the EoTech and iron sights both up at the same time and not co witnessed. I, too, do not like the Front sight in the EoTech plane and "solved" the problem for myself with the YHM flip up front and and ARMS 40 rear BUIS. Rather than "raise" the EoT, I "lowered" the sights. I keep my BUIS both down and can flip them up if desired. So, the trade off with the Dominator is having both front and rear iron sights up in exchange for the higher sight plane and different cheek weld/position with the EoTech? Definitely will save some time. My approach was to keep the sight plane as low as possible, use the EoTech for primary, ditch the EoTech via a GGG accucam if needed, and have the flip ups if needed. Plus the EoTech window for a flash sight at close quarters. Thank you for posting. If you see trends regarding what seems to work best and can find a way to slip it in it would be appreciated. Feel free to EM or IM me. I have a couple of buds at the agency in question but haven't spoken with them for awhile, it will be interesting to hear from them. I think RRA has the best value going. My next will be RRA. PS I really like Colts but not their civilian policy. I wonder what would happen if RRA partnered with someone who makes a pin mounted (not set screw) front flip up gas block sight? Just wondering. Regards, Rick EMS Civilian |
Lex, Start with the search function. The "boutique" makers make some nice stuff, but most would agree that you can do the same, or better in terms of specific needs, for a lot less money. My personal opinion, is that these manufacturers put a lot of work, pride and money into maintaining their position as custom, or semi custom, manufacturers. They fill a niche, and do it well. Despite the fact that you will not hear lots of ARFCOMers touting the benefits of a Wilson, or Baer, product, neither will you hear many complaints. You will hear lots of "not worth it" comments. I looked at the Baer very seriously, and decided that it was more than I wanted to spend for what I wanted the tool to do. I chose a RRA through RB Precision and am pleased. I would probably say the same if I had bought the Baer, or a Wilson, but I did not do so. My up coming 9mm will be a RRA. Lots of good choices! Regards, Rick Edited to add: I suspect the Wilson is an excellent rifle and will do anything you ask of it. |
| Hey lex, Alphaghost gave great advice. One other option that you might want to look into is the CAR UTE 2. I have one and love it. I have seen mixed reviews about this set up on this site, but remember its what works best for you. The UTE configuration gives you much of the same advantages of the dominator mount only in a fixed format. I personally like the fixed rear sight option because of the durability. I am not a big fan of flip up sights just from personal experience that if something can break at the worst possible moment it will (Damn you murphy!!). I also plan on purchasing an EOTech for mine. I have fired my rifle with an EOTech and it co-witnessed beautifully. Again, just personal preference on my part but definately worth looking into. |
Ya i've checked out the forum in hometown - washington...Didnt really see alot of AR topics though......What part of WA are you from? |
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--both of which are just about useless or too damn expensive
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